General Election July 2024

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targarama

14,680 posts

298 months

Monday 24th June 2024
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I think we are all aware the polls can be wrong, but usually not by much. I have noticed one thing, people talk about Reform taking Conservative votes and the odd Labour vote. But when you see Farage walking the street etc. it is always blue-collar beer in the pub types cheering him on. The demographic I would say is more Labour-leaning. Add this to the protest vote from those of Arab origin and I think Reform will do better than many expect (I live near Leicester most voters of certain foreign origins I speak to are also frustrated at the Gaza and general immigration situation). I am not saying Reform will win more than 1 seat though. I expect Labour to win like most people, but it might not be the majority expected in terms of votes across the nation.

Unreal

7,002 posts

40 months

Monday 24th June 2024
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targarama said:
I think we are all aware the polls can be wrong, but usually not by much. I have noticed one thing, people talk about Reform taking Conservative votes and the odd Labour vote. But when you see Farage walking the street etc. it is always blue-collar beer in the pub types cheering him on. The demographic I would say is more Labour-leaning. Add this to the protest vote from those of Arab origin and I think Reform will do better than many expect (I live near Leicester most voters of certain foreign origins I speak to are also frustrated at the Gaza and general immigration situation). I am not saying Reform will win more than 1 seat though. I expect Labour to win like most people, but it might not be the majority expected in terms of votes across the nation.
I think you may be right. I believe many are uncomfortable with the idea of a right leaning working class, believing they are natural labour voters. Farage also attracts those traditional Tories who don't recognise the current shower as Conservatives.


CivicDuties

7,698 posts

45 months

Monday 24th June 2024
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Unreal said:
targarama said:
I think we are all aware the polls can be wrong, but usually not by much. I have noticed one thing, people talk about Reform taking Conservative votes and the odd Labour vote. But when you see Farage walking the street etc. it is always blue-collar beer in the pub types cheering him on. The demographic I would say is more Labour-leaning. Add this to the protest vote from those of Arab origin and I think Reform will do better than many expect (I live near Leicester most voters of certain foreign origins I speak to are also frustrated at the Gaza and general immigration situation). I am not saying Reform will win more than 1 seat though. I expect Labour to win like most people, but it might not be the majority expected in terms of votes across the nation.
I think you may be right. I believe many are uncomfortable with the idea of a right leaning working class, believing they are natural labour voters. Farage also attracts those traditional Tories who don't recognise the current shower as Conservatives.
The Alf Garnett type of working class man has always been a right wing sympathiser, if not always a Tory voter. I had a (step) grandfather like this, fiercely racist but a lifelong Labour voter, he hated wealthy people as much as he hated brown people. Were he alive today I'd bet he'd vote Reform.

robemcdonald

9,407 posts

211 months

Monday 24th June 2024
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To paraphrase Stewart Lee. It’s not idiots planning to vote reform. It’s s too.

turbobloke

111,657 posts

275 months

Monday 24th June 2024
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robemcdonald said:
To paraphrase Stewart Lee. It’s not idiots planning to vote reform. It’s s too.
Ye gods.

CivicDuties

7,698 posts

45 months

Monday 24th June 2024
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turbobloke said:
robemcdonald said:
To paraphrase Stewart Lee. It’s not idiots planning to vote reform. It’s s too.
Ye gods.
No they're highly unlikely to vote Reform, apart from Cthulhu maybe.

BoomerPride

4,054 posts

272 months

Monday 24th June 2024
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turbobloke said:
robemcdonald said:
To paraphrase Stewart Lee. It’s not idiots planning to vote reform. It’s s too.
Ye gods.
Ye Gods indeed!

robemcdonald

9,407 posts

211 months

Monday 24th June 2024
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BoomerPride said:
turbobloke said:
robemcdonald said:
To paraphrase Stewart Lee. It’s not idiots planning to vote reform. It’s s too.
Ye gods.
Ye Gods indeed!
It’s a bit of humour don’t get too upset.

M1AGM

3,446 posts

47 months

Monday 24th June 2024
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ChocolateFrog said:
The only one I've seen was on the garden wall of a Conservative MP.

I thought it was brave if nothing else.
There's a big billboard outside a house on the A19 near Thirsk with the conservative MP's grinning face on it, Shelbrooke, knighted by Truss. It must be where his mum lives or the householder is getting danger money.

Unreal

7,002 posts

40 months

Monday 24th June 2024
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robemcdonald said:
BoomerPride said:
turbobloke said:
robemcdonald said:
To paraphrase Stewart Lee. It’s not idiots planning to vote reform. It’s s too.
Ye gods.
Ye Gods indeed!
It’s a bit of humour don’t get too upset.
It's possibly the only funny thing about Stuart Lee. He is about as entertaining as kidney stones and less literate.

Upinflames

1,778 posts

193 months

Monday 24th June 2024
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Fair bit of noise around Reform content being taken down by Meta and Alphabet this morning

turbobloke

111,657 posts

275 months

Monday 24th June 2024
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robemcdonald said:
BoomerPride said:
turbobloke said:
robemcdonald said:
To paraphrase Stewart Lee. It’s not idiots planning to vote reform. It’s s too.
Ye gods.
Ye Gods indeed!
It’s a bit of humour don’t get too upset.
Well disguised, and why assume people are upset - the PH NP&E bar is low enough already, expressing hope anywhichway that it goes back up a bit is a positive response. The point of repeating Lee's obscenity based on a silly generalisation was humour? Aye. Soon enouogh it'll be par for PH and it won't be noticed, not a good thing.

CivicDuties

7,698 posts

45 months

Monday 24th June 2024
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I suppose snowflakes do need safe spaces after all.

It's just a joke. Although pretty near the truth, which is probably why it hurts.

Murph7355

40,181 posts

271 months

Monday 24th June 2024
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CivicDuties said:
I suppose snowflakes do need safe spaces after all.

It's just a joke. Although pretty near the truth, which is probably why it hurts.
Have the mods approved a gloves off day for joking?

This could get very fruitily amusing. biggrin

don'tbesilly

15,334 posts

178 months

Monday 24th June 2024
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Murph7355 said:
CivicDuties said:
I suppose snowflakes do need safe spaces after all.

It's just a joke. Although pretty near the truth, which is probably why it hurts.
Have the mods approved a gloves off day for joking?

This could get very fruitily amusing. biggrin
CD’s still got you on mute from your last joke, I never understood why he never got it. hehe

CivicDuties

7,698 posts

45 months

Monday 24th June 2024
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don'tbesilly said:
Murph7355 said:
CivicDuties said:
I suppose snowflakes do need safe spaces after all.

It's just a joke. Although pretty near the truth, which is probably why it hurts.
Have the mods approved a gloves off day for joking?

This could get very fruitily amusing. biggrin
CD’s still got you on mute from your last joke, I never understood why he never got it. hehe
Evidently you're still pissed from all the Independence Day street parties yesterday. How was the Carling? Suitably weak and warm?

don'tbesilly

15,334 posts

178 months

Monday 24th June 2024
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CivicDuties said:
don'tbesilly said:
Murph7355 said:
CivicDuties said:
I suppose snowflakes do need safe spaces after all.

It's just a joke. Although pretty near the truth, which is probably why it hurts.
Have the mods approved a gloves off day for joking?

This could get very fruitily amusing. biggrin
CD’s still got you on mute from your last joke, I never understood why he never got it. hehe
Evidently you're still pissed from all the Independence Day street parties yesterday. How was the Carling? Suitably weak and warm?
I don’t drink beer, and rarely drink any alcohol at all.

Being wrong seems to come naturally to you.

Anyway how’s the campaigning going for the Lib-Dems, I hear the producers of the last leaders debate told Ed that he was going to Alton Towers, hence him showing up.






turbobloke

111,657 posts

275 months

Monday 24th June 2024
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don'tbesilly said:
Murph7355 said:
CivicDuties said:
I suppose snowflakes do need safe spaces after all.

It's just a joke. Although pretty near the truth, which is probably why it hurts.
Have the mods approved a gloves off day for joking?

This could get very fruitily amusing. biggrin
CD’s still got you on mute from your last joke, I never understood why he never got it. hehe
CD is also transparently playing down their C-bomb repost gaffe with diversional play-the-man replies.

Snowflakes more accurately describes those scared of Reform's growing support at the expense of Labour and the Tories. Some aren't keen on Reform being mentioned in public forums, and some of those have the power to stop it happening. Coincidentally, who's President of Global Affairs at Meta? Meta interfering directly in a UK election, surely not?

A UK brexit related campaign group unsurprisingly supports Reform, and gets their post around an interview with Reform's deputy temporarily taken down. It was removed in less time than the video would take to watch so why touch it?

https://facts4eu.org/static/media/facebook_ban_202...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68079726

Before any deep thinking Reform antifan snowflakes get the wrong message, I'm not supporting or defending anything beyond free speech within the law while not supporting what looks like overseas interference in a UK election. I'd do the same if a Facebook post supporting Labour containing an interview with Rayner was removed by Meta. I'm in favour of all election Parties being given airtime in MSM and online to promote their policies. Fortunately there's an Independent candidate who will get my vote, this means I can participate in July as otherwise 'none of the above' would apply and I'm not keen on daubing a C&B on the ballot paper.

CivicDuties

7,698 posts

45 months

Monday 24th June 2024
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Missing two jokes in one go, top marks DBS.

Despite all the st parenting, humour is still a thing in our household, here's my son's idea of a laugh today, lying in wait for me on the staircase.



Gave me a little chuckle on the way down to get a cup of tea, he's a good lad in reality, been out helping the LibDem campaign in a local "safe" Tory seat which they're targeting to win. Sad thing is the previous incumbent, an old school Tory big beast, has chickened out and isn't standing, depriving us of a nice Portillo moment next week. Oh well.

don'tbesilly

15,334 posts

178 months

Monday 24th June 2024
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CivicDuties said:
Missing two jokes in one go, top marks DBS.

Despite all the st parenting, humour is still a thing in our household, here's my son's idea of a laugh today, lying in wait for me on the staircase.



Gave me a little chuckle on the way down to get a cup of tea, he's a good lad in reality, been out helping the LibDem campaign in a local "safe" Tory seat which they're targeting to win. Sad thing is the previous incumbent, an old school Tory big beast, has chickened out and isn't standing, depriving us of a nice Portillo moment next week. Oh well.
Nice touch from the son by the way, I’m a tad surprised he’s in the UK at the mo & not on a gap year serving Latte’s in Barcelona or Nice.

You went to the ends of the earth to get him an EU passport (apparently) and he’s now going to vote Reform if he can get hold of your polling card. hehe

You need to being hiding any forms of ID and that card, the little rascal!

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