General Election July 2024

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7,460 posts

39 months

Sunday 23rd June
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S600BSB said:
Jasandjules said:
Can't we just call them beaker, kermit, fozzy bear etc. I mean, they are all muppets in any event.....
Probably depends how old you are?
Good point.

So whats your thoughts on your hero being over 60?

Must be quite challenging for you.

S600BSB

5,683 posts

109 months

Sunday 23rd June
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119 said:
S600BSB said:
Jasandjules said:
Can't we just call them beaker, kermit, fozzy bear etc. I mean, they are all muppets in any event.....
Probably depends how old you are?
Good point.

So whats your thoughts on your hero being over 60?

Must be quite challenging for you.
He’s a Swifty - come on man. Haha

S600BSB

5,683 posts

109 months

Sunday 23rd June
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Good piece in the Sunday Times on the gambling scandal. Sounds like there are several dozen people now being investigated. Let’s hope some more names emerge before polling day!

bitchstewie

52,632 posts

213 months

Sunday 23rd June
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Interesting post from Peston on where that might be headed.

https://x.com/Peston/status/1804840855670317293

Bonefish Blues

27,687 posts

226 months

Sunday 23rd June
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FFS. Stupid as well as amoral and greedy. Not the greatest cocktail of attributes.

frisbee

5,037 posts

113 months

Sunday 23rd June
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Have they investigated who has been betting on the Tories loosing the election?

Might explain their campaign!

MiniMan64

17,182 posts

193 months

Sunday 23rd June
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Bonefish Blues said:
FFS. Stupid as well as amoral and greedy. Not the greatest cocktail of attributes.
But fitting for this government . One final reminder what an absolute lying thieving st show they’ve for the last 15 years…

donkmeister

8,504 posts

103 months

Sunday 23rd June
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Kermit power said:
donkmeister said:
Mr Penguin said:
One thing all sensible people can agree Farage is definitely on the right side of history on:

I think you are going to have to be explicit in the thing you mean... Smoking fags?
I'd assume the wearing of a full collar with black tie, but nobody questions that. It's the wearing of wing collars that causes mentalist levels of controversy!
Fair point!

At my place the controversy is if wings go behind the tie (the American way) or above (the proper way). This is a real minefield seeing as black tie is an American invention, but they can dictate on sartorial matters when and only when those outside of the sciences acknowledge the correct way to say "herbivore", "aluminium" and "solder".

donkmeister

8,504 posts

103 months

Sunday 23rd June
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OutInTheShed said:
272BHP said:
Lol

As an observation I have seen very few posters or signs for this election, usually there are always a few here and there.

In Surrey I have seen no blue or red ones at all, a few orange ones but that is it.
The tory ones in Devon are mostly by the roadside on farm land.
Very few Reform posters.
Did see a Trump flag while out for a ride.
We've not seen any campaigning round here.

Our Labour candidate lives about 60 miles from the constituency, he doesn't have the time to travel here apparently.

Our Tory candidate knows that 1) He won't be welcome by anyone who has looked into his history and 2) he'll still win because he's got a blue rosette. So he's at home tossing himself silly over fox hunting videos.

Our Green candidate is too busy learning the words to "Gosudarstvenny gimn SSSR", partly because the Green party is now all about the Marxism, partly because she thinks Reform might win and well... Farages views on NATO.

Apparently we have a LibDem candidate. Not heard of the LibDems, must be an offshoot of Monster Raving Loonies.

sim72

4,965 posts

137 months

Sunday 23rd June
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272BHP said:
As an observation I have seen very few posters or signs for this election, usually there are always a few here and there.
In Surrey I have seen no blue or red ones at all, a few orange ones but that is it.
It's complete tumbleweed round here. We've had one Labour leaflet, and one from the Greens.

This is a seat which - whilst the Tories won with 56% of the vote last time - has gone with the winning side in every election since 1970 bar one (a very narrow Tory win in 2005). In recent years UKIP/Brexit/Reform have generally done reasonably well here too. Yet you'd hardly know there was an election on.

Edited by sim72 on Sunday 23 June 22:10

MC Bodge

22,156 posts

178 months

Sunday 23rd June
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I was in South Ribble, West Lancs yesterday.

I saw quite a few large Labour posters and some Labour sign boards in gardens of some fairly large, expensive-looking, houses.



Edited by MC Bodge on Sunday 23 June 22:54

Kermit power

28,980 posts

216 months

Monday 24th June
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Digga said:
Kermit power said:
Why do people who are presumably trying to make a serious point use names like "Minigland"?

Surely you must realise that the use of infant school insults does little to increase the validity of your argument?
This is a car forum FFS. If you want concise and clear comment, go read Private Eye or The Spectator or similar.

If I say BLiar or Camoron, or whatever, I think most of us would work out who was being referred to. We all know he meant The Ed Miller Band.
You're right that there's no reason to expect incisive political thought on a car forum, although I do find there's a surprisingly large amount of it on both sides of any given debate.

My issue is specifically with the juvenile insults that might possibly have been funny once for about 3 seconds. It's like people who still dismiss the Mk1 MX5 as a hairdresser's car. I just read that and assume they're not going to be able to give any sort of coherent argument as to why they dislike it and stop reading.

Kermit power

28,980 posts

216 months

Monday 24th June
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Jasandjules said:
Can't we just call them beaker, kermit, fozzy bear etc. I mean, they are all muppets in any event.....
irked

Kermit power

28,980 posts

216 months

Monday 24th June
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I was listening to The News Agents whilst out walking the dog this morning, and they visited a Conservative focus group oop North to meet actual real life examples of "Whitby Woman", who is being positioned as a key demographic in this election similar to Essex Man and Mondeo Man in days of yore.

Now I do realise that I'm laying myself open to accusations of massive prejudice here as my opinion was based 100% on location, accent and the ability to string a sentence together, but when I heard one saying "I'm terrified of Starmer getting in because he'll tax us dry... he'll tax us on our homes for living in them", I couldn't help feeling that Sunak seems to have done a project fear job there that must exceed his wildest fantasies if she thinks she's Starmer’s target demographic for plunder!

macron

10,070 posts

169 months

Monday 24th June
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frisbee said:
Have they investigated who has been betting on the Tories loosing the election?
Well they've certainly been slack.

JagLover

42,961 posts

238 months

Monday 24th June
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Kermit power said:
Jasandjules said:
Can't we just call them beaker, kermit, fozzy bear etc. I mean, they are all muppets in any event.....
irked
Hate to break it to you but Sunak would be Kermit.

Kermit power

28,980 posts

216 months

Monday 24th June
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JagLover said:
Kermit power said:
Jasandjules said:
Can't we just call them beaker, kermit, fozzy bear etc. I mean, they are all muppets in any event.....
irked
Hate to break it to you but Sunak would be Kermit.
Hmm.. I'm not convinced. I think he better fits this description of Fozzie Bear:

Muppet biographer Christopher Finch said:
Fozzie is a sweetly insecure and absolutely terrible comedian. Such a bad comedian that he can't afford good joke writers, and he can't write good jokes himself."
Edited by Kermit power on Monday 24th June 09:36

turbobloke

104,915 posts

263 months

Monday 24th June
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Kermit power said:
I was listening to The News Agents whilst out walking the dog this morning, and they visited a Conservative focus group oop North to meet actual real life examples of "Whitby Woman", who is being positioned as a key demographic in this election similar to Essex Man and Mondeo Man in days of yore.

Now I do realise that I'm laying myself open to accusations of massive prejudice here as my opinion was based 100% on location, accent and the ability to string a sentence together, but when I heard one saying "I'm terrified of Starmer getting in because he'll tax us dry... he'll tax us on our homes for living in them", I couldn't help feeling that Sunak seems to have done a project fear job there that must exceed his wildest fantasies if she thinks she's Starmer’s target demographic for plunder!
ISWYM but she may not be wet behind the ears if she remembers that the last Labour government had officials compile a database containing details of every garden in England (possibly Wales too). About a week ago in The Guardian Wes Streeting refused to rule out council tax rises if Labour wins the election 'we will not make promises we cannot keep or that the country cannot afford'.

https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/news/article-1...
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/...


IIRC Starmer has said that council tax bands will not change, however, a new top band or bands may be created, and this is Capt FlipFlop we're dealing with.

blueg33

36,740 posts

227 months

Monday 24th June
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turbobloke said:
ISWYM but she may not be wet behind the ears if she remembers that the last Labour government had officials compile a database containing details of every garden in England (possibly Wales too). About a week ago in The Guardian Wes Streeting refused to rule out council tax rises if Labour wins the election 'we will not make promises we cannot keep or that the country cannot afford'.

https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/news/article-1...
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/...


IIRC Starmer has said that council tax bands will not change, however, a new top band or bands may be created, and this is Capt FlipFlop we're dealing with.
++Well at lease we will be rid of:

Colonel crooked
Madame rots quicker than a lettuce
and
Corporal Inept

I have more respect for someone who can look at a decision and decide it was wrong or could be improved on than people who stick to idiocy no matter how idiotic it is proving to be


Mr Penguin

2,025 posts

42 months

Monday 24th June
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turbobloke said:
ISWYM but she may not be wet behind the ears if she remembers that the last Labour government had officials compile a database containing details of every garden in England (possibly Wales too). About a week ago in The Guardian Wes Streeting refused to rule out council tax rises if Labour wins the election 'we will not make promises we cannot keep or that the country cannot afford'.

https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/news/article-1...
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/...


IIRC Starmer has said that council tax bands will not change, however, a new top band or bands may be created, and this is Capt FlipFlop we're dealing with.
Streeting said:
'we will not make promises we cannot keep or that the country cannot afford'.