General Election July 2024
Discussion
hidetheelephants said:
Diderot said:
What a hypocritical
of the first rank he is. It’s because of you, Ed Minigland, that we are now on this insane unilateral suicidal pathway to abandon fossil fuels in the first place. Now, because you can sniff a little bit of power again for the first time in years in stead of a bacon sandwich, that you’re suggesting that massive row back. You give politicians a bad name, and that’s saying something.
Do please elucidate what's so bad about wanting to unshackle the economy from importation of hydrocarbons? The sooner the world is freed of dependence on dictators and stone age theocracies the better.![](/inc/images/censored.gif)
However, in this brave new world you seem to have envisioned without energy insecurity, you’ve not thought through the fact that you’ve merely swapped one unsavoury flavour of oil and gas dictatorship regimes, for one peddling rare earth minerals required to build the windymills and solar installations that simply won’t keep the lights on, and rare earths powering the BEVs that will apparently save us from climageddon. OPEC, Russia vs China. Rock vs Hard place.
But, beyond that, please explain to me why you think it was a good idea for Minigland to enshrine in law, in 2008, unilaterally committing the UK to spunk £80bn per year for generations, giving gormless twunts like Lord Deben aka Selwyn-Gummer the power to dictate government policy via the Climate Change Committee.
Diderot said:
However, in this brave new world you seem to have envisioned without energy insecurity, you’ve not thought through the fact that you’ve merely swapped one unsavoury flavour of oil and gas dictatorship regimes, for one peddling rare earth minerals required to build the windymills and solar installations that simply won’t keep the lights on, and rare earths powering the BEVs that will apparently save us from climageddon. OPEC, Russia vs China. Rock vs Hard place.
Rare earths aren't rare, they're widely distributed. The US alone has enough REE in mine tailings to supply world demand for years. There is a problem with refining due to chinese market manipulation putting processors out of business, but nothing that cannot be addressed if there's a modicum of will.Diderot said:
I agree, and that is at the heart of the global warming emergency/climate crisis nonsense. Although, it wasn’t until the Ukraine issue that the world dependent on Russian gas finally woke up from its torpor. Doh.
However, in this brave new world you seem to have envisioned without energy insecurity, you’ve not thought through the fact that you’ve merely swapped one unsavoury flavour of oil and gas dictatorship regimes, for one peddling rare earth minerals required to build the windymills and solar installations that simply won’t keep the lights on, and rare earths powering the BEVs that will apparently save us from climageddon. OPEC, Russia vs China. Rock vs Hard place.
But, beyond that, please explain to me why you think it was a good idea for Minigland to enshrine in law, in 2008, unilaterally committing the UK to spunk £80bn per year for generations, giving gormless twunts like Lord Deben aka Selwyn-Gummer the power to dictate government policy via the Climate Change Committee.
Why do people who are presumably trying to make a serious point use names like "Minigland"?However, in this brave new world you seem to have envisioned without energy insecurity, you’ve not thought through the fact that you’ve merely swapped one unsavoury flavour of oil and gas dictatorship regimes, for one peddling rare earth minerals required to build the windymills and solar installations that simply won’t keep the lights on, and rare earths powering the BEVs that will apparently save us from climageddon. OPEC, Russia vs China. Rock vs Hard place.
But, beyond that, please explain to me why you think it was a good idea for Minigland to enshrine in law, in 2008, unilaterally committing the UK to spunk £80bn per year for generations, giving gormless twunts like Lord Deben aka Selwyn-Gummer the power to dictate government policy via the Climate Change Committee.
Surely you must realise that the use of infant school insults does little to increase the validity of your argument?
Kermit power said:
Why do people who are presumably trying to make a serious point use names like "Minigland"?
Surely you must realise that the use of infant school insults does little to increase the validity of your argument?
This is a car forum FFS. If you want concise and clear comment, go read Private Eye or The Spectator or similar.Surely you must realise that the use of infant school insults does little to increase the validity of your argument?
If I say BLiar or Camoron, or whatever, I think most of us would work out who was being referred to. We all know he meant The Ed Miller Band.
pingu393 said:
Just to confirm, you all believe that the leasehold that you think Labour will be controlling by statute will be the maintenance part of the lease, and not ground rent. Am I correct?
There are already laws in place to allow those in flats to buy the freehold. So there is likely little to do for that sector. Unless you rewrite UK property law. The problem in that sector is a few blocks facing very large bills for clading replacement. It's modern houses sold as leasehold. The ground rents are know at purchase so you cannot complain about them. So long as the roads are adopted there is little in maintenance. The problem as I understand it are fees. Want to replace your drive you need the lessor permission, he wants a fee, same with extension, fences, etc. The fees are not regulated and in some circumstances are excessive.
hidetheelephants said:
Diderot said:
However, in this brave new world you seem to have envisioned without energy insecurity, you’ve not thought through the fact that you’ve merely swapped one unsavoury flavour of oil and gas dictatorship regimes, for one peddling rare earth minerals required to build the windymills and solar installations that simply won’t keep the lights on, and rare earths powering the BEVs that will apparently save us from climageddon. OPEC, Russia vs China. Rock vs Hard place.
Rare earths aren't rare, they're widely distributed. The US alone has enough REE in mine tailings to supply world demand for years. There is a problem with refining due to chinese market manipulation putting processors out of business, but nothing that cannot be addressed if there's a modicum of will.Digga said:
Kermit power said:
Why do people who are presumably trying to make a serious point use names like "Minigland"?
Surely you must realise that the use of infant school insults does little to increase the validity of your argument?
This is a car forum FFS. If you want concise and clear comment, go read Private Eye or The Spectator or similar.Surely you must realise that the use of infant school insults does little to increase the validity of your argument?
If I say BLiar or Camoron, or whatever, I think most of us would work out who was being referred to. We all know he meant The Ed Miller Band.
(post now edited after a reply was made)
Edited by Randy Winkman on Sunday 23 June 08:28
Edited by Randy Winkman on Sunday 23 June 08:29
Randy Winkman said:
Digga said:
Kermit power said:
Why do people who are presumably trying to make a serious point use names like "Minigland"?
Surely you must realise that the use of infant school insults does little to increase the validity of your argument?
This is a car forum FFS. If you want concise and clear comment, go read Private Eye or The Spectator or similar.Surely you must realise that the use of infant school insults does little to increase the validity of your argument?
If I say BLiar or Camoron, or whatever, I think most of us would work out who was being referred to. We all know he meant The Ed Miller Band.
119 said:
Where we used to live, housing estates were being built and there were 0 new schools built, in the local area, but plenty of supermnarkets.
Four new ones in this area (two primary, two secondary) though admittedly that was nearly 10,000 new homes (and for at least two years the houses were occupied and the schools weren't finished...)272BHP said:
I wonder if the shy tory voters and presumably shy reform voters will have much impact on the GE?
This has definitely been a factor in the past and I am guessing more so this time.
I think it could be a good idea to keep an up to date database of who people vote for.This has definitely been a factor in the past and I am guessing more so this time.
This could be done by getting people to put a political poster in their window. This could be done with the help of the political parties themselves they could all issue posters that people could apply for.
There could be people who for whatever reason lie and get a poster from a different party to try and hide their real support. Penalties would have to be stiff and firm for such behavour though.
anonymoususer said:
I think it could be a good idea to keep an up to date database of who people vote for.
This could be done by getting people to put a political poster in their window. This could be done with the help of the political parties themselves they could all issue posters that people could apply for.
There could be people who for whatever reason lie and get a poster from a different party to try and hide their real support. Penalties would have to be stiff and firm for such behavour though.
LolThis could be done by getting people to put a political poster in their window. This could be done with the help of the political parties themselves they could all issue posters that people could apply for.
There could be people who for whatever reason lie and get a poster from a different party to try and hide their real support. Penalties would have to be stiff and firm for such behavour though.
As an observation I have seen very few posters or signs for this election, usually there are always a few here and there.
In Surrey I have seen no blue or red ones at all, a few orange ones but that is it.
272BHP said:
Lol
As an observation I have seen very few posters or signs for this election, usually there are always a few here and there.
In Surrey I have seen no blue or red ones at all, a few orange ones but that is it.
The tory ones in Devon are mostly by the roadside on farm land.As an observation I have seen very few posters or signs for this election, usually there are always a few here and there.
In Surrey I have seen no blue or red ones at all, a few orange ones but that is it.
Very few Reform posters.
Did see a Trump flag while out for a ride.
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