General Election July 2024

[Vanden Saab]

fourstardan said:

Has anyone seen the Farage Nick Robinson interview.

Far different tone to his opposition!

Judging from the lack of reaction it must have gone far better than some people expected. What struck me was the conversational style compared to the interviewer vs rabbit in the headlights style of say Rishi or the job interview style of Starmer.

[Kermit power]

Wills2 said:

Rufus Stone said:

bhstewie said:

Like chimps on crack.

Ageism.

Used to be with age comes wisdom, these days it's just dementia.

Ageism that'll get us all on board, not.

Frankly that's just embarrassing!

You'd think before writing a piece like that a journalist might just go and check the ages of some of our former great leaders when they were in office, wouldn't you?

[WCZ]

fourstardan said:

Has anyone seen the Farage Nick Robinson interview.

Far different tone to his opposition!

Not seen it but did read farage said the west provoked Ukraine’s invasion

[hidetheelephants]

WCZ said:

fourstardan said:

Has anyone seen the Farage Nick Robinson interview.

Far different tone to his opposition!

Not seen it but did read farage said the west provoked Ukraine’s invasion

That would be Nigel Farage the regular guest on Russia Today saying that; Nigel Farage, Reform candidate for Clacton, would never say such a thing. People are free to vote for who they want to vote for, even rent-a-gobs who will say whatever pays the best.

[Rufus Stone]

Well done the Tories.

We now have the highest debt for over 60 years and the highest tax burden for over 70 years.

[fourstardan]

Vanden Saab said:

Judging from the lack of reaction it must have gone far better than some people expected. What struck me was the conversational style compared to the interviewer vs rabbit in the headlights style of say Rishi or the job interview style of Starmer.

Sunak wants to be something he isn't
Starmer wants to make us think he isn't something but is
Farage is Nigel Farage

[swisstoni]

Kermit power said:

Wills2 said:

Rufus Stone said:

bhstewie said:

Like chimps on crack.

Ageism.

Used to be with age comes wisdom, these days it's just dementia.

Ageism that'll get us all on board, not.

Frankly that's just embarrassing!

You'd think before writing a piece like that a journalist might just go and check the ages of some of our former great leaders when they were in office, wouldn't you?

I thought ageism was ok now?

[bitchstewie]

WCZ said:

Not seen it but did read farage said the west provoked Ukraine’s invasion

https://x.com/coldwarsteve/status/1804217283104919...

[turbobloke]

WCZ said:

Not seen it but did read farage said the west provoked Ukraine’s invasion

While I don't agree with that view, if that's what he said then he isn't alone. As per this LSE article, the Financial Times, the New York Times & the Guardian have suggested that NATO is partly to blame.

I agree with the title of the article.

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/europpblog/2022/04/27/nato...

[S600BSB]

turbobloke said:

WCZ said:

Not seen it but did read farage said the west provoked Ukraine’s invasion

While I don't agree with that view, if that's what he said then he isn't alone. As per this LSE article, the Financial Times, the New York Times & the Guardian have suggested that NATO is partly to blame.

I agree with the title of the article.

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/europpblog/2022/04/27/nato...

I think that interview is going to cost Reform some votes.

[Bonefish Blues]

S600BSB said:

turbobloke said:

WCZ said:

Not seen it but did read farage said the west provoked Ukraine’s invasion

While I don't agree with that view, if that's what he said then he isn't alone. As per this LSE article, the Financial Times, the New York Times & the Guardian have suggested that NATO is partly to blame.

I agree with the title of the article.

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/europpblog/2022/04/27/nato...

I think that interview is going to cost Reform some votes.

Yes it will, but I have also read articles about how the West seemingly pushed away a Putin who was initially very different to now. They give a different perspective, but as ever, I'm sure Farage has coarsened a legitimate discussion.

[Unreal]

S600BSB said:

turbobloke said:

WCZ said:

Not seen it but did read farage said the west provoked Ukraine’s invasion

While I don't agree with that view, if that's what he said then he isn't alone. As per this LSE article, the Financial Times, the New York Times & the Guardian have suggested that NATO is partly to blame.

I agree with the title of the article.

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/europpblog/2022/04/27/nato...

I think that interview is going to cost Reform some votes.

I think it will gain them some. Whether it's like their net immigration aims we will have to see.

It doesn't suit the West to look too closely at the background to the Ukraine conflict. You have to wonder why any debate is shut down so quickly. Reminds me of 'trusting the science'. There is no debate, Putin bad, West/Nato/Eu/Zelensky good.

[pingu393]

Unreal said:

S600BSB said:

turbobloke said:

WCZ said:

Not seen it but did read farage said the west provoked Ukraine’s invasion

While I don't agree with that view, if that's what he said then he isn't alone. As per this LSE article, the Financial Times, the New York Times & the Guardian have suggested that NATO is partly to blame.

I agree with the title of the article.

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/europpblog/2022/04/27/nato...

I think that interview is going to cost Reform some votes.

I think it will gain them some. Whether it's like their net immigration aims we will have to see.

It doesn't suit the West to look too closely at the background to the Ukraine conflict. You have to wonder why any debate is shut down so quickly. Reminds me of 'trusting the science'. There is no debate, Putin bad, West/Nato/Eu/Zelensky good.

How many have only read the headline, and not seen the interview?

They will definitely agree with the BBC's interpretation.

[S600BSB]

Even the Telegraph is going after him. He will pay the price - 30p Lee feeling the heat in Ashfield. Haha

[MC Bodge]

Unreal said:

I think it will gain them some. Whether it's like their net immigration aims we will have to see.

It doesn't suit the West to look too closely at the background to the Ukraine conflict. You have to wonder why any debate is shut down so quickly. Reminds me of 'trusting the science'. There is no debate, Putin bad, West/Nato/Eu/Zelensky good.

Putin is a good bloke really?

[Unreal]

pingu393 said:

Unreal said:

S600BSB said:

turbobloke said:

WCZ said:

Not seen it but did read farage said the west provoked Ukraine’s invasion

While I don't agree with that view, if that's what he said then he isn't alone. As per this LSE article, the Financial Times, the New York Times & the Guardian have suggested that NATO is partly to blame.

I agree with the title of the article.

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/europpblog/2022/04/27/nato...

I think that interview is going to cost Reform some votes.

I think it will gain them some. Whether it's like their net immigration aims we will have to see.

It doesn't suit the West to look too closely at the background to the Ukraine conflict. You have to wonder why any debate is shut down so quickly. Reminds me of 'trusting the science'. There is no debate, Putin bad, West/Nato/Eu/Zelensky good.

How many have only read the headline, and not seen the interview?

They will definitely agree with the BBC's interpretation.

You don't need to convince me that the majority of the voting public are dense and restrict their learning to reading soundbites and no more than a couple of paragraphs on a subject. See Ukraine/Brexit/Gaza or any other signicant issue.

At least Farage's comnents and the BBC's interpretation might produce a little more useful debate.

We know he is playing for 2029. This is just the sort of thing to help keep him making headlines and differentiating Reform from the other parties.

Edited by Unreal on Saturday 22 June 10:48

[Unreal]

MC Bodge said:

Putin is a good bloke really?

What do you think?

Try expressing an opinion. Not a soundbite though. We have enough of those.

[isaldiri]

pingu393 said:

How many have only read the headline, and not seen the interview?

They will definitely agree with the BBC's interpretation.

Ah, so the media have deliberately misrepresented what someone might have said in order to make him look bad by implying he said something per headlines that wasn't necessarily an accurate reflection of what was being said? What a surprise.....

[119]

isaldiri said:

pingu393 said:

How many have only read the headline, and not seen the interview?

They will definitely agree with the BBC's interpretation.

Ah, so the media have deliberately misrepresented what someone might have said in order to make him look bad by implying he said something per headlines that wasn't necessarily an accurate reflection of what was being said? What a surprise.....

Wouldn't be the first time though would it?

[bitchstewie]

Farage said "we provoked this war".

That isn't misrepresenting him it's literally a direct quote.