Scottish Politics / Independence - Vol 12

[Roderick Spode]

Well the deed is done... tactical vote in Glenrothes to prevent Pedro Grunt's cooncil buddy from replacing him as the SNP incumbent. The Liebore candidate doesn't seem much better, but I'd return a pot of petunias as MP in preference to an SNP cult drone. Meanwhile, the petunias would think "oh no, not again..."

I have a very pleasant bottle of malt on standby to toast every seat the SNP lose... one loss = one nip. There's 28 nips in a standard bottle, I'm hoping that I'll have run out of whisky by 7am and be exceedingly inebriated.

[alangla]

Silverbullet767 said:

I and my OH will be doing our bit this afternoon after work to tactically vote the SNP out. However, North Ayrshire is bat st nationalist country, so I'm not expecting a good result.

If they do indeed lose their seat. I'll be celebrating Friday night with a few whisky's.

North Ayrshire, where it’s possible to get his & hers constituencies. Also possible in West Yorkshire if you’re Ed Balls.

[csd19]

Leithen said:

Don't do that, you never know how many others feel the same way - vote!

shtu said:

Apologies for the poor analogy, but,

You didn't vote for them - 1 vote lost.
You didn't vote for anyone else - 1 vote gained.

or

You didn't vote for them - 1 vote lost.
You voted for someone else - 1 vote lost.

So go and vote. Vote for the party most likely to unseat them, there's a lot of seats where the margins are so narrow that apathy and vote-spoiling could make the difference.

(I've noticed recently a lot of comments elsewhere about spoiling papers - I think some have latched onto this as a way of helping the SNP's chances slightly, and dress it up with the usual FREEDOM bks.)

Yep I know guys, I appreciate the gentle bking

Unfortunately this is the pish I'm having to deal with so you can understand my lack of enthusiasm.

https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/fcgi-bin/calcw...

[Ecosseven]

Last prediction for Scotland from Electoral Calculus. We will find out soon enough if it's accurate.......

[NoddyonNitrous]

With postal votes, is there any way that you can know if your vote was received / counted?

[shtu]

csd19 said:

Unfortunately this is the pish I'm having to deal with so you can understand my lack of enthusiasm.

True, but if everyone looks at that and thinks "no point voting", it won't change. There was a previous time Labour looked invincible and the SNP were a weird fringe party...

Even a reduced majority will help keep the survivors on their toes. It's a little reminder that they're not invincible and actually do have to pay attention to their constituents. Not doing that is what's lined them up for a nationwide shoeing this time round.

[alangla]

shtu said:

True, but if everyone looks at that and thinks "no point voting", it won't change. There was a previous time Labour looked invincible and the SNP were a weird fringe party...

Even a reduced majority will help keep the survivors on their toes. It's a little reminder that they're not invincible and actually do have to pay attention to their constituents. Not doing that is what's lined them up for a nationwide shoeing this time round.

I think that was also one of the things that did for Labour in 2015, Westminster was stocked full of useless backbenchers who’d been occupying the same Central Belt seats for decades, hadn’t bothered their arses electioneering and got repeatedly elected with ridiculous majorities (60%+ in some cases IIRC). Dragging all those complacent snouts out of the trough was probably the best thing the SNP ever did, obviously their replacements were something of a mixed bag and as Orwell predicted, they’ve gone the same way.

[CallThatMusic]

Roderick Spode said:

Well the deed is done... tactical vote in Glenrothes to prevent Pedro Grunt's cooncil buddy from replacing him as the SNP incumbent. The Liebore candidate doesn't seem much better, but I'd return a pot of petunias as MP in preference to an SNP cult drone. Meanwhile, the petunias would think "oh no, not again..."

I have a very pleasant bottle of malt on standby to toast every seat the SNP lose... one loss = one nip. There's 28 nips in a standard bottle, I'm hoping that I'll have run out of whisky by 7am and be exceedingly inebriated.

I like your style.

[jshell]

Essarell said:

irc said:

Who knew? High parking charges, bus gates LEZ, permanent building site in Sauchiehall Street makes the city centre less attractive. Just waiting for the SNP city govt to blame a long dead female PM.

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/24426984.glasg...

I had to call in to a site on Sauchiehall St on Monday, sadly it’s an absolute dump, rubbish strewn streets and bizarre road layouts designed specifically to frustrate traffic.
It’s not just Glasgow, this template is being rolled out right across our fair isles and decimating city centre economies. The night time sector just hangs on but daytime economy is finished, just look at how many businesses only open 5 pm onwards and even then only a few days a week.

www.c40.org is the blueprint.

[A.J.M]

Roderick Spode said:

Well the deed is done... tactical vote in Glenrothes to prevent Pedro Grunt's cooncil buddy from replacing him as the SNP incumbent. The Liebore candidate doesn't seem much better, but I'd return a pot of petunias as MP in preference to an SNP cult drone. Meanwhile, the petunias would think "oh no, not again..."

I have a very pleasant bottle of malt on standby to toast every seat the SNP lose... one loss = one nip. There's 28 nips in a standard bottle, I'm hoping that I'll have run out of whisky by 7am and be exceedingly inebriated.

As long as you have a glass bottle of irn bru and food for a decent fry up.
You’ll be fine.

[Essarell]

jshell said:

Essarell said:

irc said:

Who knew? High parking charges, bus gates LEZ, permanent building site in Sauchiehall Street makes the city centre less attractive. Just waiting for the SNP city govt to blame a long dead female PM.

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/24426984.glasg...

I had to call in to a site on Sauchiehall St on Monday, sadly it’s an absolute dump, rubbish strewn streets and bizarre road layouts designed specifically to frustrate traffic.
It’s not just Glasgow, this template is being rolled out right across our fair isles and decimating city centre economies. The night time sector just hangs on but daytime economy is finished, just look at how many businesses only open 5 pm onwards and even then only a few days a week.

www.c40.org is the blueprint.

I’m aware of that document plus some others that local authorities issue, walking, cycling and wheeling (that’s so they don’t forget wheelchair users) is the new watchword catchphrase bingo that they are salivating to introduce. Ironically it’s creating the opposite,in the Glasgow version they aim to increase the cities population by 40 thousand……presumably to make public transport sustainable ( from a financial perspective) not a Charles Dance. Who wants to live in a high crime slum? That’s what they’ve managed to introduce.

[Evercross]

Ecosseven said:

Last prediction for Scotland from Electoral Calculus. We will find out soon enough if it's accurate.......

Key numbers...

% votes for Labour > % votes for SNP, which will be spun by SNP as 'it was a Westminster election and people were voting for a UK government', which begs the question why stand at all if they know they cannot win the main prize, oh that's right - they're Scotland's voice yet Scotland rejected them, so get back in your box.

Number of seats for all other parties > number of seats for SNP - pretty much a given but will be spun as above.

Number of seats for Labour > number of seats for SNP - almost assured but that will be benchmark for an end to any claim to any mandates by the SNP.

Number of seats for SNP < 20 - pretty much assures an end to their claim as second opposition and the short money that comes with it.

ETA. Survation are putting SNP seats at 10 with a spread from 3 to 21.

Edited by Evercross on Thursday 4th July 11:33

[irc]

If the SNP get reduced to 3 seats I invite you all to my funeral as I will die laughing.

Which reminded me of a late relative with exceeding poor timing. A rampant nationist, I scattered his ashes on Culloden battlefield. He stood as an SNP candidate on at least one occasion. He managed to drink himself to death a few weeks before the SNP victory in 2007.

R. I. P. Ross, probably just as well you never saw what your party became.

[Snow and Rocks]

irc said:

If the SNP get reduced to 3 seats I invite you all to my funeral as I will die laughing.

Them coming third behind "they bastird tories" would be the pretty unlikely icing on that cake!

[rossub]

Tactical votes x 2 done here as well.

We’d probably have voted Labour this time, but have to try and keep the SNP out.

[Evercross]

Snow and Rocks said:

Them coming third behind "they bastird tories" would be the pretty unlikely icing on that cake!

SNP coming third behind either Conservative or LibDem in Scotland is a VERY slim possibility but absolutely within the error range of the current predictions.

It all depends on how much tactical voting happens, but perusing the front pages of today's newspapers in the supermarket a few moments ago would indicate that the editorial messages are do whatever it takes to oust the SNP (rather than a message to vote SNP/Labour/Conservative). I don't think I've ever seen the MSM push tactical voting this much before.

Edited by Evercross on Thursday 4th July 13:08

[hutchst]

Roderick Spode said:

Well the deed is done... tactical vote in Glenrothes to prevent Pedro Grunt's cooncil buddy from replacing him as the SNP incumbent. The Liebore candidate doesn't seem much better, but I'd return a pot of petunias as MP in preference to an SNP cult drone. Meanwhile, the petunias would think "oh no, not again..."

I have a very pleasant bottle of malt on standby to toast every seat the SNP lose... one loss = one nip. There's 28 nips in a standard bottle, I'm hoping that I'll have run out of whisky by 7am and be exceedingly inebriated.

I thought it was 20, so I bought 2 bottles. Better safe than sorry.

[sherman]

hutchst said:

Roderick Spode said:

Well the deed is done... tactical vote in Glenrothes to prevent Pedro Grunt's cooncil buddy from replacing him as the SNP incumbent. The Liebore candidate doesn't seem much better, but I'd return a pot of petunias as MP in preference to an SNP cult drone. Meanwhile, the petunias would think "oh no, not again..."

I have a very pleasant bottle of malt on standby to toast every seat the SNP lose... one loss = one nip. There's 28 nips in a standard bottle, I'm hoping that I'll have run out of whisky by 7am and be exceedingly inebriated.

I thought it was 20, so I bought 2 bottles. Better safe than sorry.

That would depend on if your using Scottish measures (35ml) or English measures (25ml) or the household measures of 2 fingers.

[csd19]

sherman said:

hutchst said:

Roderick Spode said:

Well the deed is done... tactical vote in Glenrothes to prevent Pedro Grunt's cooncil buddy from replacing him as the SNP incumbent. The Liebore candidate doesn't seem much better, but I'd return a pot of petunias as MP in preference to an SNP cult drone. Meanwhile, the petunias would think "oh no, not again..."

I have a very pleasant bottle of malt on standby to toast every seat the SNP lose... one loss = one nip. There's 28 nips in a standard bottle, I'm hoping that I'll have run out of whisky by 7am and be exceedingly inebriated.

I thought it was 20, so I bought 2 bottles. Better safe than sorry.

That would depend on if your using Scottish measures (35ml) or English measures (25ml) or the household measures of 2 fingers.

I tend to use the "cover the 2 ice cubes by at least 2mm" rule, seems to work pretty well...

ETA voted now, let's see what carnage we wake up to tomorrow!

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csd19 said:

I tend to use the "cover the 2 ice cubes by at least 2mm" rule, seems to work pretty well...

ETA voted now, let's see what carnage we wake up to tomorrow!