Scottish Politics / Independence - Vol 12

[hidetheelephants]

Taffer said:

hidetheelephants said:

Absolute joke.

Zippo's Circus were in Inverclyde last week - they could have gone on a recruitment drive at Ferguson's while they were in town.

There's a few in the office at work who obviously did their training in the big shoes and falling down trousers.

[Klippie]

Master Of Puppets said:

And on that day let's all spare a thought for the people that were sent to the care homes who most certainly wont be able to watch. RIP.

Exactly...and the person who knowingly gave the ok for this to happen must be held responsible...blood is on their hands.

[halo34]

I see they are lining up the postal votes as an excuse to contest any result that comes out -

[EC2]

halo34 said:

I see they are lining up the postal votes as an excuse to contest any result that comes out -

He obviously has certainty that SNP voters are impacted more than other voters or he would not have brought it up. Unless it is just a continuation of the division and moaning involved in being a Nationalist party even if you don’t like the middle word in your party’s name.

[tim0409]

jet_noise said:

tim0409 said:

I commented on The Times article yesterday and received quite a lot of “likes”; it does seem like an odd decision from ITV to alienate more than half your potential viewership.

You are Jeremy Clarkson AICMFP

On reflection, I think you might have a point…it does read like I was channeling my inner-clarkson

[hidetheelephants]

tim0409 said:

jet_noise said:

tim0409 said:

I commented on The Times article yesterday and received quite a lot of “likes”; it does seem like an odd decision from ITV to alienate more than half your potential viewership.

You are Jeremy Clarkson AICMFP

On reflection, I think you might have a point…it does read like I was channeling my inner-clarkson

Are you really Tim Burnt Fishtrousers, a distant relation of the former BMW heidbummer?

[alangla]

Taffer said:

Just like the other Friday afternoon flyer updates, another ferry delay announced on the day the Scottish Parliament goes into Summer recess, just after the last FM Questions. Who'd have thunk it?

Only 3 weeks this time, if you can believe it.


https://www.fergusonmarine.com/news/update-to-nzet...

That update suggests a final cost of £149.1m for stbox and £150m for Rusty. I thought the spend to date was already over £300m? Also, how can Rusty cost more when it’s been quicker to build and, one would hope, didn’t have the same amount of incompetence and rework as stbox.
Still reckon Lochmor could manage a trouble free week in service before either of these two. I’m convinced that Isle of Islay and Loch Indaal will.

[hidetheelephants]

I suspect there's a fair bit in loans that will never be repaid not included there, because reasons.

[Taffer]

alangla said:

That update suggests a final cost of £149.1m for stbox and £150m for Rusty. I thought the spend to date was already over £300m? Also, how can Rusty cost more when it’s been quicker to build and, one would hope, didn’t have the same amount of incompetence and rework as stbox.
Still reckon Lochmor could manage a trouble free week in service before either of these two. I’m convinced that Isle of Islay and Loch Indaal will.

Higher cost for second vessel will probably reflect parts, materials, labour, etc, and a buffer if spending increases - I doubt they'll be able to stick to that, ridiculous though it is for a vessel that size and simplicity. Total spend will include ScotGov cash handouts to the yard, officially to improve their infrastructure but probably spent either on the vessels or the payroll. There'll be a reason Audit Scotland weren't given full access to FMPG's accounts.......

With the Caledonian Isles return date still not confirmed, and the Hebridean Isles looking likely to be axed at the first opportunity, there's rumours that whenever the Sannox is handed over the Calmac familiarisation/test period will be reduced before fee-paying service, just to score a press 'victory' to beat the Islay boats.

[jet_noise]

tim0409 said:

jet_noise said:

tim0409 said:

I commented on The Times article yesterday and received quite a lot of “likes”; it does seem like an odd decision from ITV to alienate more than half your potential viewership.

You are Jeremy Clarkson AICMFP

On reflection, I think you might have a point…it does read like I was channeling my inner-clarkson

And well channeled it was too. Would recommend

[alangla]

Taffer said:

With the Caledonian Isles return date still not confirmed, and the Hebridean Isles looking likely to be axed at the first opportunity, there's rumours that whenever the Sannox is handed over the Calmac familiarisation/test period will be reduced before fee-paying service, just to score a press 'victory' to beat the Islay boats.

Which is why I’ve always preferred a full week of trouble free service as a measure rather than “we got some paying mugs on board at Ardrossan Troon and 6 hours later a tug dragged it into Brodick”

What’s up with Hebridean Isles? 39 years old so needs major work to keep it going?

[Taffer]

alangla said:

What’s up with Hebridean Isles? 39 years old so needs major work to keep it going?

Basically, yes - a number of crew cabins have been condemned due to water damage, so she can't carry a full complement of catering crew so there's been limited hot food on offer. Several other bits of the ship need a lot of money spent on upgrades/repairs, and it's just not viable to keep her running. The Caley Isles has had a huge sum spent on it just to eke out another few years whenever she does return to service.

[Ecosseven]

Big Rod said:

cuprabob said:

No issue with postal vote here, it arrived last Saturday.

We're still waiting on ours.

Cutting it fine despite applying promptly and chasing repeatedly. Apparently it should arrive today but if that passes they couldn't tell me if I could change the address it should be sent to. I'm a somewhat irked by the ERO blaming royal Mail and vice versa. Admittedly, there'll be a significantly higher volume of applications but it's not rocket science.

Rod, have you seen the article below for people who have registered for a postal vote but have not yet received it?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8vdpvqe24jo

[NoddyonNitrous]

Got our postal votes yesterday (Scottish Borders). The Cooncil are opening a voting station in the Cooncil HQ this weekend for missing / delayed postal votes.
I see that the SNP candidate is from outwith the area - a Dumfries address. In a previous election the SNP couldn't get anybody to volunteer to stand, and they strong armed a very reluctant Alex Salmond's sister into standing. She told me she really had no interest in the job, but had been pressed into it as they could find nobody else to do it. She lost.

[Klippie]

Swinney on The Sunday Show, his bit starts at 10.40mins.

[sherman]

https://electionmaps.uk/nowcast
Polls are showing SNP losing 31 seats.

Basically a redwall will appear through the entire central belt and the snp will be a echo chamber for the highlanders

[Silverbullet767]

sherman said:

https://electionmaps.uk/nowcast
Polls are showing SNP losing 31 seats.

Basically a redwall will appear through the entire central belt and the snp will be a echo chamber for the highlanders

North Ayrshire, still SNP. Jesus fking wept. I hate it here.

[rossub]

sherman said:

https://electionmaps.uk/nowcast
Polls are showing SNP losing 31 seats.

Basically a redwall will appear through the entire central belt and the snp will be a echo chamber for the highlanders

Unfortunately you’re a bit Central belt bias there.

Aberdeen and Dundee really aren’t the Highlands. I’ll be gutted if that turns out to be accurate.

[cuprabob]

Silverbullet767 said:

North Ayrshire, still SNP. Jesus fking wept. I hate it here.

That'll be down to everyone in Dregorn

[s2kjock]

rossub said:

sherman said:

https://electionmaps.uk/nowcast
Polls are showing SNP losing 31 seats.

Basically a redwall will appear through the entire central belt and the snp will be a echo chamber for the highlanders

Unfortunately you’re a bit Central belt bias there.

Aberdeen and Dundee really aren’t the Highlands. I’ll be gutted if that turns out to be accurate.

Quite why the SNP still hold such sway across that part of the country (Dundee excepted) is a mystery - they have done nothing for those areas, and the coastal ones on the West you think would have the ferry fk ups featuring quite highly in their thinking.