Scottish Politics / Independence - Vol 12
Discussion
Evercross said:
Master Of Puppets said:
Some of that 30% used to be on here telling us how wrong we were, sadly the numbers have dwindled leaving the thread a bit of an echo chamber, nevermind, we understand how difficult it must be supporting such a low IQ cabal of absolute troughers and grifters.Long before they earned their bans I had discourses with them calling them out for their sociopathic behaviour. Four typical examples of the type of people tribalist nationalistic politics attracts, so it would seem.
I've said since the start - the Scottish Nationalists clothe themselves in populist progressive politics but ultimately they are the same as every other xenophobic nationalist party, motivated to an individual by division. The SNP's time in the sun is coming to an end and those inclined to vote for them for their pseudo-progressiveness now have other options. The ones that remain loyal to the cause need to be called out and categorised with the others 'ists and 'phobes.
Edited by Evercross on Wednesday 26th June 11:18
biggbn said:
Hey EV, as you know I'm pro independence and none of the above. There are a few of us you know? Detest the SNP though!
I was too, thought we could be better managed in Scotland, how wrong I was, all they had to do was make life better for the majority, failed miserably all down to Sturgeon she blew independence out of the water.Just do not think we have the politicians in Scotland that are up to the task of running an independent country. Not just SNP, none of them sparkle.
Speaking of not being up to the task what are the chances of these two Green chancers sneaking in the back door again?
Mercdriver said:
I was too, thought we could be better managed in Scotland, how wrong I was, all they had to do was make life better for the majority, failed miserably all down to Sturgeon she blew independence out of the water.
Just do not think we have the politicians in Scotland that are up to the task of running an independent country. Not just SNP, none of them sparkle.
Speaking of not being up to the task what are the chances of these two Green chancers sneaking in the back door again?
Which ones? Harvie/Slater or Lucas? Lucas is retiring at this election, but Electoral Calculus is predicting a Green hold for Brighton Pavilion.Just do not think we have the politicians in Scotland that are up to the task of running an independent country. Not just SNP, none of them sparkle.
Speaking of not being up to the task what are the chances of these two Green chancers sneaking in the back door again?
For the various Scottish ones, the one thing to bear in mind is that Slater is currently second on the Lothian list behind the current presiding officer, so has a far better chance of holding on if she was to be first next time. Others are, as far as I can tell, first on their respective lists
Another bad tempered exchange on FMQ today in the kindergarten .
Swinney blaming thatcher, Westminster and austerity for Scotlands ailments, still protesting that joining the EU and Independence is the solution
What about the millions wasted in the last five years by the SNP?
Sanwar having a go about the numbers of patients giving up with the health service and going private.
I do not drink before evening but Breakfast next Friday will be smoked salmon, scrambled eggs and a bottle of fizz, fingers crossed.
Swinney blaming thatcher, Westminster and austerity for Scotlands ailments, still protesting that joining the EU and Independence is the solution
What about the millions wasted in the last five years by the SNP?
Sanwar having a go about the numbers of patients giving up with the health service and going private.
I do not drink before evening but Breakfast next Friday will be smoked salmon, scrambled eggs and a bottle of fizz, fingers crossed.
Mercdriver said:
Another bad tempered exchange on FMQ today in the kindergarten .
Swinney blaming thatcher, Westminster and austerity for Scotlands ailments, still protesting that joining the EU and Independence is the solution
What about the millions wasted in the last five years by the SNP?
Sanwar having a go about the numbers of patients giving up with the health service and going private.
I do not drink before evening but Breakfast next Friday will be smoked salmon, scrambled eggs and a bottle of fizz, fingers crossed.
I could not believe Swinney brought up Thatcher...Swinney blaming thatcher, Westminster and austerity for Scotlands ailments, still protesting that joining the EU and Independence is the solution
What about the millions wasted in the last five years by the SNP?
Sanwar having a go about the numbers of patients giving up with the health service and going private.
I do not drink before evening but Breakfast next Friday will be smoked salmon, scrambled eggs and a bottle of fizz, fingers crossed.
cuprabob said:
I could not believe Swinney brought up Thatcher...
Of course he did. The name has entered folklore in Scotland and is much a talisman of ignorant, passed-down bigotry as William of Orange and Bobby Sands.Everywhere has its share of low IQ'rs, but I truly believe Scotland has more than most and they are absolutely entranced by the sort of tribal crap the SNats still peddle, especially across the
Humza pulled the same trick with Boris Johnson, constantly invoking his name despite Johnson being an ex-ex PM by the time the thick t
t with a penchant for funding terrorism got into office.Edited by Evercross on Thursday 27th June 16:09
irc said:
Thatcher was out of power half a lifetime ago. Half the population were not born when she was in power. Can we go back a bit further and hand some of the blame to Pitt the younger?
Surely Swinney should be blaming Blair and Brown rather than Thatcher, assuming he's got even a grain of political nous in the midst of an election campaign where Labour are clearly out in front and about to steal the SNP's lunch?But then political nous has always been scarce in the SNP since Salmond was memory-holed.
Tax refund today. Yes! How much? £15.74 Boo!
On the other hand my statement shows despite earning several £k past £43 I only paid the 42% SNP envy/greed tax on £171 of income. I made a pension contribution a couple of months before the end of the tax year so only had an estimate of the final total but got close enough.
I will need to add a few quid to my tax refund to buy something suitable to toast the loud clang of SNP seats falling on 5th July.
Slight thread drift.News that many postal votes will arrive too late. I know my opinion here is not popular but I believe unless you are unavoidably away from home or too disabled to walk you should go to your local polling place to vote.
Even when I was doing a job where I was on duty at polling place all day on election days (before widespread postal votes) my employer ensured that everyone who wanted it got a break long enough to go and vote.
Just trying to think how many times I have done it since old enough to vote in 1979.
11 for UK parliament. 1979, 1983, 1987, 1992, 1997, 2001, 2005, 2010, 2015, 2017 ,2019
6 for Scottish parliament 1999, 2003, 2007, 2011, 2016, 2021
13 Local or regional elections
5 European parliament
Finally I have voted in 6 referendums and been on the winning side every time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_Scotlan...
So 41 times I have walked down to my local school and placed an X in a box.
On the other hand my statement shows despite earning several £k past £43 I only paid the 42% SNP envy/greed tax on £171 of income. I made a pension contribution a couple of months before the end of the tax year so only had an estimate of the final total but got close enough.
I will need to add a few quid to my tax refund to buy something suitable to toast the loud clang of SNP seats falling on 5th July.
Slight thread drift.News that many postal votes will arrive too late. I know my opinion here is not popular but I believe unless you are unavoidably away from home or too disabled to walk you should go to your local polling place to vote.
Even when I was doing a job where I was on duty at polling place all day on election days (before widespread postal votes) my employer ensured that everyone who wanted it got a break long enough to go and vote.
Just trying to think how many times I have done it since old enough to vote in 1979.
11 for UK parliament. 1979, 1983, 1987, 1992, 1997, 2001, 2005, 2010, 2015, 2017 ,2019
6 for Scottish parliament 1999, 2003, 2007, 2011, 2016, 2021
13 Local or regional elections
5 European parliament
Finally I have voted in 6 referendums and been on the winning side every time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_Scotlan...
So 41 times I have walked down to my local school and placed an X in a box.
irc said:
Slight thread drift.News that many postal votes will arrive too late. I know my opinion here is not popular but I believe unless you are unavoidably away from home or too disabled to walk you should go to your local polling place to vote.
One might suggest that the UK Government (ie the clown who couldn’t comply with his own legislation at the council elections) introducing voter ID has perhaps made postal voting even more attractive than before and, combined with the schools being off & loads of people on holiday, has resulted in a significant surge in demand. FWIW, I agree with you that postal voting should be the exception but Blair disagreed, so we are where we are. Apparently voter ID isn’t required for Holyrood or Scottish council elections.Mercdriver said:
biggbn said:
Hey EV, as you know I'm pro independence and none of the above. There are a few of us you know? Detest the SNP though!
I was too, thought we could be better managed in Scotland, how wrong I was, all they had to do was make life better for the majority, failed miserably all down to Sturgeon she blew independence out of the water.Just do not think we have the politicians in Scotland that are up to the task of running an independent country. Not just SNP, none of them sparkle.
Speaking of not being up to the task what are the chances of these two Green chancers sneaking in the back door again?
Christ you have no idea how much I regret that choice. The guilt at my small contribution to the s
tshow we now find ourselves in is immeasurable. I cannot apologise enough to my fellow countrymen..... SNP! Never again. Ever. For as long as I draw oxygen. Never. Ever. again.irc said:
Tax refund today. Yes! How much? £15.74 Boo!
On the other hand my statement shows despite earning several £k past £43 I only paid the 42% SNP envy/greed tax on £171 of income. I made a pension contribution a couple of months before the end of the tax year so only had an estimate of the final total but got close enough.
I will need to add a few quid to my tax refund to buy something suitable to toast the loud clang of SNP seats falling on 5th July.
Slight thread drift.News that many postal votes will arrive too late. I know my opinion here is not popular but I believe unless you are unavoidably away from home or too disabled to walk you should go to your local polling place to vote.
Even when I was doing a job where I was on duty at polling place all day on election days (before widespread postal votes) my employer ensured that everyone who wanted it got a break long enough to go and vote.
Just trying to think how many times I have done it since old enough to vote in 1979.
11 for UK parliament. 1979, 1983, 1987, 1992, 1997, 2001, 2005, 2010, 2015, 2017 ,2019
6 for Scottish parliament 1999, 2003, 2007, 2011, 2016, 2021
13 Local or regional elections
5 European parliament
Finally I have voted in 6 referendums and been on the winning side every time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_Scotlan...
So 41 times I have walked down to my local school and placed an X in a box.
I have only ever voted once and that was No in the independence referendum. Never bothered before or since and likely never will.On the other hand my statement shows despite earning several £k past £43 I only paid the 42% SNP envy/greed tax on £171 of income. I made a pension contribution a couple of months before the end of the tax year so only had an estimate of the final total but got close enough.
I will need to add a few quid to my tax refund to buy something suitable to toast the loud clang of SNP seats falling on 5th July.
Slight thread drift.News that many postal votes will arrive too late. I know my opinion here is not popular but I believe unless you are unavoidably away from home or too disabled to walk you should go to your local polling place to vote.
Even when I was doing a job where I was on duty at polling place all day on election days (before widespread postal votes) my employer ensured that everyone who wanted it got a break long enough to go and vote.
Just trying to think how many times I have done it since old enough to vote in 1979.
11 for UK parliament. 1979, 1983, 1987, 1992, 1997, 2001, 2005, 2010, 2015, 2017 ,2019
6 for Scottish parliament 1999, 2003, 2007, 2011, 2016, 2021
13 Local or regional elections
5 European parliament
Finally I have voted in 6 referendums and been on the winning side every time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_Scotlan...
So 41 times I have walked down to my local school and placed an X in a box.
irc said:
Slight thread drift.News that many postal votes will arrive too late. I know my opinion here is not popular but I believe unless you are unavoidably away from home or too disabled to walk you should go to your local polling place to vote.
Don't schedule an election in the school holidays then; it's pretty clear that England wouldn't have stood for an August election.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff