Scottish Politics / Independence - Vol 12

[Master Of Puppets]

irc said:

Ideally a Branchform trial would be taking place alongside a Holyrood election. 30% of voters would still think the SNP were a suitable party to govern Scotland.

Some of that 30% used to be on here telling us how wrong we were, sadly the numbers have dwindled leaving the thread a bit
of an echo chamber, nevermind, we understand how difficult it must be supporting such a low IQ cabal of absolute troughers and grifters.

[irc]

Master Of Puppets said:

irc said:

Ideally a Branchform trial would be taking place alongside a Holyrood election. 30% of voters would still think the SNP were a suitable party to govern Scotland.

Some of that 30% used to be on here telling us how wrong we were, sadly the numbers have dwindled leaving the thread a bit
of an echo chamber, nevermind, we understand how difficult it must be supporting such a low IQ cabal of absolute troughers and grifters.

How soon we forget! Who was it on here that got a job offer in England good enough to be a higher rate tapayer but wouldn't take it because his partner would not qualify for their benefits in England?

On one of my other forums a vehement SNP supporter has publicly admitted the SNP need a few years out of power to regroup.

What amazes me is the fact that while SNP support has fallen indy support has not. Still hovering around 45%. Do they not think it would be nice to have evidence of a devolved Scotland which spends more per head than England and deals with most areas of govt which affect our lives making things better before jumping off the cliff.

[Evercross]

Master Of Puppets said:

Some of that 30% used to be on here telling us how wrong we were, sadly the numbers have dwindled leaving the thread a bit of an echo chamber, nevermind, we understand how difficult it must be supporting such a low IQ cabal of absolute troughers and grifters.

IIRC the four most pro-indy contributors to this thread (Strocky, LimJim, ZedLeg and another whose name I cannot recall) earned themselves sitewide bans for breaches of forum rules unrelated to this thread.

Long before they earned their bans I had discourses with them calling them out for their sociopathic behaviour. Four typical examples of the type of people tribalist nationalistic politics attracts, so it would seem.

I've said since the start - the Scottish Nationalists clothe themselves in populist progressive politics but ultimately they are the same as every other xenophobic nationalist party, motivated to an individual by division. The SNP's time in the sun is coming to an end and those inclined to vote for them for their pseudo-progressiveness now have other options. The ones that remain loyal to the cause need to be called out and categorised with the others 'ists and 'phobes.

Edited by Evercross on Wednesday 26th June 11:18

[irc]

The herald asks if Useless is looking for a high profile post politics job. Notably it is not allowing comments on the story!

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/24410837.inter...

[Klippie]

irc said:

The herald asks if Useless is looking for a high profile post politics job. Notably it is not allowing comments on the story!

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/24410837.inter...

Who the fk would employ that useless tt, he couldn't hold onto the kushtiest job in Scotland as he's a total bellend and fks up everything he goes near.

He might be lucky and some SNP run council starts him as a picker-up of dog ste...only if he's lucky.

Seriously though he doesn't need a job, he's minted there's plenty of money run through his fingers to build up a nice little pile.

[Evercross]

irc said:

The herald asks if Useless is looking for a high profile post politics job. Notably it is not allowing comments on the story!

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/24410837.inter...

Shill piece.

Yousaf is almost certainly regarded as a UK security risk following his series of international diplomatic blunders.

[A.J.M]

My postal ballot arrived.

9 candidates to pick from.
Scottish conservatives, Lib Dem’s, SNP, British unionist party, Scottish libertarian party, reform, greens, Labour and UKIP…

Some I’ve never heard of.
Think I’ll have to break the habit of a lifetime and vote Labour to get rid of the snp.

[csd19]

A.J.M said:

My postal ballot arrived.

9 candidates to pick from.
Scottish conservatives, Lib Dem’s, SNP, British unionist party, Scottish libertarian party, reform, greens, Labour and UKIP…

Some I’ve never heard of.
Think I’ll have to break the habit of a lifetime and vote Labour to get rid of the snp.

I'm still waiting on mine to arrive, although I did finally get some lavvy paper from the SNP.

A hand delivered letter addressed to me, with the usual pish leaflet inside. Interestingly they'd also including an SAE to return an included questionnaire - now I wonder where they got the funds to cover freepost letters considering they're skinty-poos? Surely not another postage related issue for the SNP

[Mercdriver]

Quote A hand delivered letter addressed to me, with the usual pish leaflet inside. Interestingly they'd also including an SAE to return an included questionnaire - now I wonder where they got the funds to cover freepost letters considering they're skinty-poos? Surely not another postage related issue for the SNP hehe


Yup, got one of these, filled it in telling them the games up and no way am I voting for them.

Yes it had a sae return but asking as money is short please put a stamp on it, so I posted it to them without, they are good at wasting money so I helped them waste some more

[Silverbullet767]

Got a flyer through for the Scottish greens, it's the only leaflet I've not recycled. In the main bin you go!

[biggbn]

Evercross said:

Master Of Puppets said:

Some of that 30% used to be on here telling us how wrong we were, sadly the numbers have dwindled leaving the thread a bit of an echo chamber, nevermind, we understand how difficult it must be supporting such a low IQ cabal of absolute troughers and grifters.

IIRC the four most pro-indy contributors to this thread (Strocky, LimJim, ZedLeg and another whose name I cannot recall) earned themselves sitewide bans for breaches of forum rules unrelated to this thread.

Long before they earned their bans I had discourses with them calling them out for their sociopathic behaviour. Four typical examples of the type of people tribalist nationalistic politics attracts, so it would seem.

I've said since the start - the Scottish Nationalists clothe themselves in populist progressive politics but ultimately they are the same as every other xenophobic nationalist party, motivated to an individual by division. The SNP's time in the sun is coming to an end and those inclined to vote for them for their pseudo-progressiveness now have other options. The ones that remain loyal to the cause need to be called out and categorised with the others 'ists and 'phobes.

Edited by Evercross on Wednesday 26th June 11:18

Hey EV, as you know I'm pro independence and none of the above. There are a few of us you know? Detest the SNP though!

[Mercdriver]

biggbn said:

Hey EV, as you know I'm pro independence and none of the above. There are a few of us you know? Detest the SNP though!

I was too, thought we could be better managed in Scotland, how wrong I was, all they had to do was make life better for the majority, failed miserably all down to Sturgeon she blew independence out of the water.

Just do not think we have the politicians in Scotland that are up to the task of running an independent country. Not just SNP, none of them sparkle.

Speaking of not being up to the task what are the chances of these two Green chancers sneaking in the back door again?

[irc]

Alex Cole-Hamilton on Radio Scotland just now. Another preacher of the green revolution who doesn't have a heat pump in his own home. He can't afford it. MSP on £90k? Married to a teacher.

How does he expect the 90% or more households poorer than his to afford them

[alangla]

Mercdriver said:

I was too, thought we could be better managed in Scotland, how wrong I was, all they had to do was make life better for the majority, failed miserably all down to Sturgeon she blew independence out of the water.

Just do not think we have the politicians in Scotland that are up to the task of running an independent country. Not just SNP, none of them sparkle.

Speaking of not being up to the task what are the chances of these two Green chancers sneaking in the back door again?

Which ones? Harvie/Slater or Lucas? Lucas is retiring at this election, but Electoral Calculus is predicting a Green hold for Brighton Pavilion.

For the various Scottish ones, the one thing to bear in mind is that Slater is currently second on the Lothian list behind the current presiding officer, so has a far better chance of holding on if she was to be first next time. Others are, as far as I can tell, first on their respective lists

[Mercdriver]

Harvie and slater are the two I want booted out, at least hopefully if labour are in control they will not have to depend on these two clowns to get legislation through, fingers crossed

[Mercdriver]

Another bad tempered exchange on FMQ today in the kindergarten .

Swinney blaming thatcher, Westminster and austerity for Scotlands ailments, still protesting that joining the EU and Independence is the solution

What about the millions wasted in the last five years by the SNP?

Sanwar having a go about the numbers of patients giving up with the health service and going private.

I do not drink before evening but Breakfast next Friday will be smoked salmon, scrambled eggs and a bottle of fizz, fingers crossed.

[cuprabob]

Mercdriver said:

Another bad tempered exchange on FMQ today in the kindergarten .

Swinney blaming thatcher, Westminster and austerity for Scotlands ailments, still protesting that joining the EU and Independence is the solution

What about the millions wasted in the last five years by the SNP?

Sanwar having a go about the numbers of patients giving up with the health service and going private.

I do not drink before evening but Breakfast next Friday will be smoked salmon, scrambled eggs and a bottle of fizz, fingers crossed.

I could not believe Swinney brought up Thatcher...

[Evercross]

cuprabob said:

I could not believe Swinney brought up Thatcher...

Of course he did. The name has entered folklore in Scotland and is much a talisman of ignorant, passed-down bigotry as William of Orange and Bobby Sands.

Everywhere has its share of low IQ'rs, but I truly believe Scotland has more than most and they are absolutely entranced by the sort of tribal crap the SNats still peddle, especially across the sectarian central belt.

Humza pulled the same trick with Boris Johnson, constantly invoking his name despite Johnson being an ex-ex PM by the time the thick tt with a penchant for funding terrorism got into office.

Edited by Evercross on Thursday 27th June 16:09

[Mercdriver]

Oh my god, hold the fiz just read a poll forecasting a win for the SNP where I live. Just what do they have to do to get thrown out? Depressing

[irc]

cuprabob said:

I could not believe Swinney brought up Thatcher...

Thatcher was out of power half a lifetime ago. Half the population were not born when she was in power. Can we go back a bit further and hand some of the blame to Pitt the younger?