Scottish Politics / Independence - Vol 12

[hidetheelephants]

NoddyonNitrous said:

"Designed to lowed living costs" You what?

Another set of bungs to the middle class and these fkwits think they're fking Keir Hardie.

[Leithen]

“With the powers of independence we could fk your life up even more. “

[DocJock]

Evercross said:

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I think you mean the "Flower of Scotland" which, although used as an anthem at sporting fixtures, is not the National Anthem. It's a folk song by the Corries, IIRC.
The National Anthem is the familiar "God Save the King".

National anthem of Scotland.

Scotland has no official anthem despite the shortbread senate having the legal competence to select one.

Flower of Scotland is an absolute dirge of a tune with borderline offensive lyrics. I preferred Scotland the Brave myself, which was used until 2010.

I'll be proudly singing my other anthem tonight though...

"Fratelli, d'Italia...."

i've always thought the same. STB is so much more upbeat.

Edited by DocJock on Tuesday 25th June 07:06

[wc98]

NoddyonNitrous said:

"Designed to lowed living costs" You what?

If they meant load they are spot on, won't be many outside their wee circle that haven't had many extra costs loaded onto them as a result of their incompetence.

If they meant lower, who do they think they are kidding.

[irc]

Radio Scotland phone in with Douglas Ross. Indy supporter asks if he agrees Scotland with it's natural resources and talented people could be a successful independent country. Ross disagrees politely saying he thinks we are more successful as part of the UK.

Missing out the obvious answer to me. Natural resources? Like the oil and gas the SNP want to leave in the ground both in the North Sea and fracking? The talented people unable to build 2 ferries or a few miles of dual carriageway. The ones against new nuclear while our existing one supplying most of our reliable electricity supply will be closed in a few years.

We have talented people but they are not the ones that have weaseled themselves into power.

[Tom8]

Klippie said:

I came home from work and found SNP filth through my door, there's no detering these fkers it would seem.

As usual it promises the earth...the leaflet mentions the following.

Free Prescriptions - that happend in 2011 so nothing new.
Free Tuition - that happened in 2008 so nothing new.
Free Childcare - that happened in 2021 so nothing new.
Free Bus Travel - that happened in 2006 for the old team and 2021 for the young team, so nothing new.
£26.70 child payment - that happened in 2021, so nothing new.

And the "pièce de résistance" Dumza's council tax freeze...they are so proud of this even if they don't like it.

Then there's the lies...blame Westminster for the rents going up...you couldn't write it..!!!

Love how socialists claim everything is "free"
No one pays for anything ever.
Oh hang on a sec.

[Roderick Spode]

Tom8 said:

Love how socialists claim everything is "free"
No one pays for anything ever.
Oh hang on a sec.

SNP target demographic are feckless workshy spongers, with a lifetime on the bubble. Promise them endless gravy and they will vote unquestioningly for the party. Also, promise them that independence will bring about a doubling of their dole money.

Meanwhile, to the middle classes, tell them that independence will guarantee EU membership and take the rug from under the Limp Dumbs. Quietly rinse the middle classes with vastly increased taxation, but spin it so it's Westminster's fault. Proclaim progressiveness.

To the elderly, continue parroting the propaganda about "the lowest pension in Europe" and claim that independence would see a tripling of the state pension. Don't explain how any of this would be funded. Talk constantly about the future of their children and grandchildren in a green and pleasant Utopia.

[maffski]

Klippie said:

Premise: An additional customs border has increased living costs

Proposal: To reduce living costs we'll institute an additional customs border

[irc]

maffski said:

Premise: An additional customs border has increased living costs

Proposal: To reduce living costs we'll institute an additional customs border

I am guessing here but I imagine almost all UK distribution - supermarkets, retail, industrial is set up on a UK basis. So any organisation which had to either set up a new Scotland only system or add border costs onto an existing UK system will put up prices. But I guess that is me talking Scotland down. Making something more complicated makes it cheaper after all they proved that with the ferries.

[Mercdriver]

Look on the bright side of life, we only have another 8 days of their incompetence


Cava, I don’t buy anything French, is in the fridge ready for Friday the 5th

[NoddyonNitrous]

Mercdriver said:

Look on the bright side of life, we only have another 8 days of their incompetence


Cava, I don’t buy anything French, is in the fridge ready for Friday the 5th

I was thinking of cracking a bottle of Scottish parliament whisky that's been in the back of the shelf, but I'll keep it for 2026. I hope they contracted distillers better than shipbuilders

[sherman]

NoddyonNitrous said:

I was thinking of cracking a bottle of Scottish parliament whisky that's been in the back of the shelf, but I'll keep it for 2026. I hope they contracted distillers better than shipbuilders

Its Gordon & MacPhail that blend it.
I doubt its their finest work.

[shtu]

NoddyonNitrous said:

I hope they contracted distillers better than shipbuilders

Well, you actually -have- the bottle and it's ready to drink, so that''s one better than Ferguson's.

[Klippie]

Well it looks like we aren't going to see the conclusion of Police investigation of the missing £600k before the election, I had a feeling this would happen, the last thing the SNP want would all this to be stirred up again and splattered all over the media.

Sturgeon, Swinney, Dumza and the other inner sanctum deadbeats being carted off to jail would be the icing on the cake...and a joy to watch.

[sherman]

Klippie said:

Well it looks like we aren't going to see the conclusion of Police investigation of the missing £600k before the election, I had a feeling this would happen, the last thing the SNP want would all this to be stirred up again and splattered all over the media.

Sturgeon, Swinney, Dumza and the other inner sanctum deadbeats being carted off to jail would be the icing on the cake...and a joy to watch.

If its as bad as we think it migtt be it could be construed as political bias during the election campaign to to arrest most of the leadership of one party.
Thats getting on for something Putin would do.
The police will wait until the election dust has settled.

[Evercross]

sherman said:

If its as bad as we think it migtt be it could be construed as political bias during the election campaign to to arrest most of the leadership of one party.
Thats getting on for something Putin would do.
The police will wait until the election dust has settled.

Best keep that bombshell for just before the Holyrood election. Bear in mind that as far as devolved assemblies go 4th July is just going to be an opinion poll, albeit a very significant and accurate one.

[irc]

Evercross said:

Best keep that bombshell for just before the Holyrood election. Bear in mind that as far as devolved assemblies go 4th July is just going to be an opinion poll, albeit a very significant and accurate one.

Ideally a Branchform trial would be taking place alongside a Holyrood election. 30% of voters would still think the SNP were a suitable party to govern Scotland.

[wc98]

Roderick Spode said:

SNP target demographic are feckless workshy spongers, with a lifetime on the bubble. Promise them endless gravy and they will vote unquestioningly for the party. Also, promise them that independence will bring about a doubling of their dole money.

Meanwhile, to the middle classes, tell them that independence will guarantee EU membership and take the rug from under the Limp Dumbs. Quietly rinse the middle classes with vastly increased taxation, but spin it so it's Westminster's fault. Proclaim progressiveness.

To the elderly, continue parroting the propaganda about "the lowest pension in Europe" and claim that independence would see a tripling of the state pension. Don't explain how any of this would be funded. Talk constantly about the future of their children and grandchildren in a green and pleasant Utopia.

That's scarily and depressingly accurate.

[Tom8]

Roderick Spode said:

Tom8 said:

Love how socialists claim everything is "free"
No one pays for anything ever.
Oh hang on a sec.

SNP target demographic are feckless workshy spongers, with a lifetime on the bubble. Promise them endless gravy and they will vote unquestioningly for the party. Also, promise them that independence will bring about a doubling of their dole money.

Meanwhile, to the middle classes, tell them that independence will guarantee EU membership and take the rug from under the Limp Dumbs. Quietly rinse the middle classes with vastly increased taxation, but spin it so it's Westminster's fault. Proclaim progressiveness.

To the elderly, continue parroting the propaganda about "the lowest pension in Europe" and claim that independence would see a tripling of the state pension. Don't explain how any of this would be funded. Talk constantly about the future of their children and grandchildren in a green and pleasant Utopia.

Very true although I can't see how they separate Labour from the SNP, I suppose the only difference is the independence thing.

[hidetheelephants]

The SNP aren't socialists, nor are Labour. The former have spent 17 years pandering to the middle class while parroting progressive bullst to the hard of thinking.