Your Voting Intentions Part 2.0 (End Is Nigh)

[p1stonhead]

Non PH poll is a bit different….

[hidetheelephants]

No doubt the bookies are loving this.

[ARHarh]

S600BSB said:

TeaNoSugar said:

Mr Miata said:

I want to tactical vote as I live in a safe Conservative seat and want them to lose. The problem is, who is everyone else going to vote for? Because it’s a safe Tory seat, would most voters defect to Reform rather than vote Labour?

It seems prediction websites or tactical voting only look at the previous General Election result, which Reform wasn’t part of.

Have you tried electoral calculus? They give some interesting predictions, although it must be a bit speculative when it comes toe reform (for the reason you point out).

There is quite a bit of information around if you look for it.

Have you tried talking to your neighbours, I understand this may be scary if you live in the south east, but you might get a feel for how others are thinking.

Here when our conservative MP was kicked out a couple of years ago, when talking to some of the neighbours it was obvious there was going to be a protest vote. The lib dems got in. This time round when talking to the same neighbours it seems the Lib Dem MP has done so well that they will be getting the vote this time round. This is in an area that was conservative since time began, and in a village full of retired typical conservative voters.

[Timothy Bucktu]

We should probably have an exit poll thread now?

[Derek Smith]

p1stonhead said:

Non PH poll is a bit different….

There's no way that poll is accurate in the sense of seats won. I reckon perhaps 100 seat majority. Maybe a little more. The number of seats the tories will hang onto will be more than they deserve.

[ghost83]

I’m voting reform

I like the fact Farage says it as it is he answers all the questions
And tbh I like their policies! Scrapping net zero hs2 raising tax thresholds and obviously he wants to stop the war on motorists which helps us all

Starmer doesn’t answer a question he just deflects it and we all know that he will literally destroy the country! They’ve made a mess of wales and the Welsh nhs and most Labour run councils are BUST

Conservatives just go on about Labour

[hidetheelephants]

ghost83 said:

I’m voting reform

I like the fact Farage says it as it is he answers all the questions
And tbh I like their policies! Scrapping net zero hs2 raising tax thresholds and obviously he wants to stop the war on motorists which helps us all

Starmer doesn’t answer a question he just deflects it and we all know that he will literally destroy the country! They’ve made a mess of wales and the Welsh nhs and most Labour run councils are BUST

Conservatives just go on about Labour

Nice to see he's got his finger on the pulse, the tories cancelled HS2 last year.

[deadtom]

I did one of those quiz things that shows the various parties' policies anonymously and you choose which one sounds most appealing least awful.

It reckons I align mostly with Lib Dem, followed by Tory. Labour were dead last even behind reform, which was a surprise.

I guess I'll vote Lib Dem then as for me it was always a toss up between them and Labour (not because I actively like Labour, but it feels like the tories really could do with a decade or so out of power to sit down and think about how to be better)

[Last Visit]

deadtom said:

I did one of those quiz things that shows the various parties' policies anonymously and you choose which one sounds most appealing least awful.)

Quiz linky? I famcy doing that myself.

[deadtom]

Last Visit said:

Quiz linky? I famcy doing that myself.

I used this'n: https://voteforpolicies.org.uk/

You can choose how many policy categories you wish to be quizzed on, but being the passionate political mind that I am, I chose all 16

[p1stonhead]

Derek Smith said:

p1stonhead said:

Non PH poll is a bit different….

There's no way that poll is accurate in the sense of seats won. I reckon perhaps 100 seat majority. Maybe a little more. The number of seats the tories will hang onto will be more than they deserve.

I mean, not saying it’s correct but they put the work into it. What’s your ‘I reckon’ based on?

[Derek Smith]

p1stonhead said:

Derek Smith said:

p1stonhead said:

Non PH poll is a bit different….

There's no way that poll is accurate in the sense of seats won. I reckon perhaps 100 seat majority. Maybe a little more. The number of seats the tories will hang onto will be more than they deserve.

I mean, not saying it’s correct but they put the work into it. What’s your ‘I reckon’ based on?

History.

I read a book on getting public opinion via limited routes, and not face-to-face. Although it sounds rather pathetic, many people will refuse to state their real intent if they feel embarrassed by it. A labour voter from way back might be unlikely to state that they are opting for reform as they don't want to admit, albeit only to themselves, that they hate immigrants. When they go into the booth, it becomes real, and they can vote for whatever candidate and placate themselves with an excuse of spur of the moment.

Ask many people if they are willing to pay more tax to improve the NHS, and they might say Yes. When their first pay packet arrives, they will complain.

[119]

I reckon a Labour/Reform coalition would work.

[fatbutt]

deadtom said:

I used this'n: https://voteforpolicies.org.uk/

You can choose how many policy categories you wish to be quizzed on, but being the passionate political mind that I am, I chose all 16

It say's I'm aligned with the lib dems. That's a big no from me! I distinctly remember the lib dems saying they would ignore the Brexit referendum and mandate an immediate return to the EU which makes them about as undemocratic as you could wish for.

[bitchstewie]

119 said:

I reckon a Labour/Reform coalition would work.

Don't think Labour will need one.

[paulw123]

I am alright Jack said:

Stick Legs said:

As someone who has voted Tory in every election I have been eligible for I cannot bring myself to this time.

I always saw myself as a ‘Ken Clarke’ Tory. They have abandoned that side of their nature.

The Conservative Party always stood for fiscal prudence, low taxes, a resistance to faddism & competence.
The most efficient election winning machine in the democratic world.
The have trashed that.

May, Johnson, Truss & Sunak. Hopeless weather cock politicians.

I shall be voting Reform for one reason only and that is to assist in the final downfall of the Conservatives.

European Membership is gone, we can’t bring it back, now we are out we should use the opportunity to do something better, not to try & align ourselves as closely as possibly in the hope they’ll still be our friends.

I know that Reform won’t get it, but if it signals a mood in the country that Labour can’t just tax & spend their way through the next (probably 3 terms) then it is worthwhile.

I keep reading people saying "probably 3 terms" but i just don't see it and think more like maximum of one.

The majority of labour's votes are from people who are not voting "for" labour, they're just not voting for someone else. If the conservatives hadn't destroyed themselves Starmer wouldn't be getting much of a look in.

Within 4-5 years time there'll be a whole new conservative party, bigger, better, stronger etc. with a new leader and new members that the protest voters can flock back to with a clear conscience. Then there's the reform party and who knows what will happen to them, will Farage stay or go? Will there be some sort of merging with the conservatives? Nobody knows, but the point is there will be a viable alternative for all the people who don't consider they have much of an alternative this time.

Starmer hasn't even got to do anything wrong in his first term not to win a second. The only possible way of him winning a second is if he does the best ever job ever in the history of best ever jobs. If people are not saying, "WOW Kier has done a great job, I can now afford to feed my family, turn the heating on and afford ice-cream" in 3-4 years time then Starmer will lose the next election.

Edited by I am alright Jack on Friday 28th June 00:11

This is my hope, the one upside to a Labour landslide will be a total overhaul of the Tory party. Hopefully get back to what it should be.
Just hope Labour don't do too much damage in their term.

[dai1983]

Voting tactically for the lib dems just to keep the conservatives out despite voting for them nearly every election up until 2017.

[P-Jay]

Derek Smith said:

p1stonhead said:

Non PH poll is a bit different….

There's no way that poll is accurate in the sense of seats won. I reckon perhaps 100 seat majority. Maybe a little more. The number of seats the tories will hang onto will be more than they deserve.

I think you're experiencing the first of seven stages of grief - shock and denial.

But, we should get the first exist polls just after 10pm tomorrow, we'll have a better idea of the scale of things then, I don't think it'll be as massive as current polls are suggesting, but it's still going to be a very big majority.

[MC Bodge]

119 said:

I reckon a Labour/Reform coalition would work.

For whom?

[768]

Comedians.