Macron calls a national election

Macron calls a national election

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Greenmantle

1,399 posts

114 months

Monday 8th July
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Glad to find that the French do have a translation for Schadenfreude!

joie maligne my little chums!

You have to be of a certain age with a penchant for Friday night crap TV on Channel 4 to get the reference.

Dave200

5,671 posts

226 months

Monday 8th July
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Nice to see the French, like the Brits, stuck two fingers up at the right-wing gutter party.

So much for "the rise of the right in Europe".

RabidGranny

1,937 posts

144 months

Monday 8th July
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Dave200 said:
Nice to see the French, like the Brits, stuck two fingers up at the right-wing gutter party.

So much for "the rise of the right in Europe".
absolutely delightful.

272BHP

5,629 posts

242 months

Monday 8th July
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Dave200 said:
Nice to see the French, like the Brits, stuck two fingers up at the right-wing gutter party.

So much for "the rise of the right in Europe".
What on earth are you talking about? They didn't do as well as they and the polls expected but they are certainly on the rise, look at the number of seats they have gained.

Beati Dogu

9,130 posts

145 months

Monday 8th July
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Pitre said:
We lived in France for a number of years but I didn't get involved in their politics. However, French friends used to comment that in the first round of voting they vote "with their hearts" but in the second round they "vote with their heads" and this has proved true again.
Plus the fact that the left wing coalition and Macron’s party worked together and selectively pulled over 200 candidates to help each other out to ensure Le Pen’s party wouldn’t win.

And now the leftists are out smashing things up in celebration.

Wills2

23,922 posts

181 months

Monday 8th July
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Greenmantle said:
Glad to find that the French do have a translation for Schadenfreude!

joie maligne my little chums!

You have to be of a certain age with a penchant for Friday night crap TV on Channel 4 to get the reference.
Euro trash was brilliant!

eharding

14,097 posts

290 months

Monday 8th July
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Wills2 said:
Greenmantle said:
Glad to find that the French do have a translation for Schadenfreude!

joie maligne my little chums!

You have to be of a certain age with a penchant for Friday night crap TV on Channel 4 to get the reference.
Euro trash was brilliant!
Bit of a shock to realise it started thirty years ago, and ended twenty years ago....

RabidGranny

1,937 posts

144 months

Monday 8th July
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eharding said:
Wills2 said:
Greenmantle said:
Glad to find that the French do have a translation for Schadenfreude!

joie maligne my little chums!

You have to be of a certain age with a penchant for Friday night crap TV on Channel 4 to get the reference.
Euro trash was brilliant!
Bit of a shock to realise it started thirty years ago, and ended twenty years ago....
the voiceovers were quality

andy_s

19,519 posts

265 months

Monday 8th July
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Hahaha - what a mess he's got to sort out now, co-habiting with people who riot when they lose and riot when they win - anyone but extremists eh? Be interesting to see how he manages all this and how much support the far-left will provide to the ultra-extreme-scary-far right for further down the road...

I like centrists, I think he's made some good calls, but inevitably they get swamped out by the old L/R diehards.

bodhi

11,322 posts

235 months

Monday 8th July
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272BHP said:
Dave200 said:
Nice to see the French, like the Brits, stuck two fingers up at the right-wing gutter party.

So much for "the rise of the right in Europe".
What on earth are you talking about? They didn't do as well as they and the polls expected but they are certainly on the rise, look at the number of seats they have gained.
They also got a higher share of the national vote than the "thumping" winners of our recent election.

Still good to see the "extremists" have been kept out - which explains all the peace and tranquility in Paris last night.

Oh.

Elroy Blue

8,707 posts

198 months

Monday 8th July
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The deals done by Macron to stop Le Penn have led to a hard left group that adores Russia, does not consider Ukraine to be a country and hates NATO and the United States having a grasp on power. They also support China's claim on Taiwan.
Some dark and difficult days ahead for France, caused yet again by inept Politicians

Thom

1,720 posts

253 months

Monday 8th July
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The usual media brainwashing ran on full load to persuade swing voters to vote against the RN, which was never going to get any majority with other runners up pull out on purpose to block them the way - encouraging one's supporters to vote for someone else by pulling out. So much for the support of "Democracy"...
In the end the RN has more MPs than ever before and still got the highest amount of votes, which is rather telling. The mess Micron has deliberately thrown the country in will cement the RN's stronghold further over the long run and once half brained supporters of the far left will realise their mistake they will switch to the RN more easily than one may expect.

Edited by Thom on Monday 8th July 14:15

Greenmantle

1,399 posts

114 months

Monday 8th July
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Elroy Blue said:
The deals done by Macron to stop Le Penn have led to a hard left group that adores Russia, does not consider Ukraine to be a country and hates NATO and the United States having a grasp on power. They also support China's claim on Taiwan.
Some dark and difficult days ahead for France, caused yet again by inept Politicians
Me thinks that SKSs job of getting back into the EU has just got that little bit harder. Merde!

LimaDelta

6,859 posts

224 months

Monday 8th July
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Dave200 said:
Nice to see the French, like the Brits, stuck two fingers up at the right-wing gutter party.

So much for "the rise of the right in Europe".


hehe

fat80b

2,432 posts

227 months

Monday 8th July
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272BHP said:
Dave200 said:
Nice to see the French, like the Brits, stuck two fingers up at the right-wing gutter party.

So much for "the rise of the right in Europe".
What on earth are you talking about? They didn't do as well as they and the polls expected but they are certainly on the rise, look at the number of seats they have gained.
Indeed - It could be said that this whole situation has just created an even bigger problem for the future (and that's assuming that they can find a way to get a stable government going now).

It seems likely to me that come the next presidential election, the right will have risen even further and this will be seen as an even bigger mistake than it currently is.

Countdown

41,605 posts

202 months

Monday 8th July
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LimaDelta said:


hehe
Happy to be corrected but isn't it the case that Labour got more seats than anybody else, and RN came 3rd?

LimaDelta

6,859 posts

224 months

Monday 8th July
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Countdown said:
LimaDelta said:


hehe
Happy to be corrected but isn't it the case that Labour got more seats than anybody else, and RN came 3rd?
Seats yes, votes no.

JagLover

43,541 posts

241 months

Monday 8th July
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Countdown said:
Happy to be corrected but isn't it the case that Labour got more seats than anybody else, and RN came 3rd?
I think perhaps the point being made is that 37% of the second round vote going to RN doesn't exactly constitute much of a rejection. That would be a majority territory under our electoral system.

Particularly as it came with the largest grouping being the far left/left wing alliance as the consequence of keeping them out. Apparently less than 20% of French voters want Mélenchon as PM per polling, but he heads up the largest grouping, so who knows what will happen.


bodhi

11,322 posts

235 months

Monday 8th July
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This is probably more telling:



Edit - for the European Elections not so long ago, but still - can't see this ending well.



Edited by bodhi on Monday 8th July 15:16

Wills2

23,922 posts

181 months

Monday 8th July
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JagLover said:
I think perhaps the point being made is that 37% of the second round vote going to RN doesn't exactly constitute much of a rejection. That would be a majority territory under our electoral system.
It's not a rejection, however under our system it would depend on where the votes came from 37% doesn't guarantee a majority under FPTP, just look at reform 14% = 5 seats vs Libdems on 12% for 72 seats, if your 37% is concentrated in too few seats you don't get in.

The Tories + Reform got 38% and only 126 seats between them as an example.