Missing lad in Tenerife
Discussion
Kitchski said:
skwdenyer said:
Because 170k people are reported missing every year; because the media loves a mystery with a chance of a resolution. Nicola Bulley vanished in an instant in broad daylight; Michael Mosley likewise just wandered off; this lad likewise; the chap a few years back who is believed to have slept in a dumpster; and so on.
My sister drove her car to a remote location and vanished. It looks like a deliberate act, because it was - she drove there. There's no real mystery, no whodunnit. She's just missing, but there's no obvious chance she was abducted (by humans, aliens or beasts).
There's no intriguing story. She's just another missing person. And most people would say they already know what the outcome is; we just don't have the detail yet.
We did get some traction in the media. But to really cut through you need that additional "X" factor. And even then, the media cycle will soon pass, and all you're left with is the hangover from the false hope that lots of media attention will actually change anything. And maybe (if that's who you are, and your story happens to cut through) some money from a fundraiser or selling interviews etc.
For those with an interest, of those 170k people reported missing, 77% are found within 24 hours, 87% within 48 hours. 3% will be missing longer than a week; <1% for longer than a month. At any one time there are over 5000 people who are "long term missing" (meaning more than one year). Of those 170k per year, about 0.5% have fatal outcomes.
Interesting post, appreciate that.My sister drove her car to a remote location and vanished. It looks like a deliberate act, because it was - she drove there. There's no real mystery, no whodunnit. She's just missing, but there's no obvious chance she was abducted (by humans, aliens or beasts).
There's no intriguing story. She's just another missing person. And most people would say they already know what the outcome is; we just don't have the detail yet.
We did get some traction in the media. But to really cut through you need that additional "X" factor. And even then, the media cycle will soon pass, and all you're left with is the hangover from the false hope that lots of media attention will actually change anything. And maybe (if that's who you are, and your story happens to cut through) some money from a fundraiser or selling interviews etc.
For those with an interest, of those 170k people reported missing, 77% are found within 24 hours, 87% within 48 hours. 3% will be missing longer than a week; <1% for longer than a month. At any one time there are over 5000 people who are "long term missing" (meaning more than one year). Of those 170k per year, about 0.5% have fatal outcomes.
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Just incase you hadn't noticed it before.
Petrus1983 said:
Kitchski said:
skwdenyer said:
Because 170k people are reported missing every year; because the media loves a mystery with a chance of a resolution. Nicola Bulley vanished in an instant in broad daylight; Michael Mosley likewise just wandered off; this lad likewise; the chap a few years back who is believed to have slept in a dumpster; and so on.
My sister drove her car to a remote location and vanished. It looks like a deliberate act, because it was - she drove there. There's no real mystery, no whodunnit. She's just missing, but there's no obvious chance she was abducted (by humans, aliens or beasts).
There's no intriguing story. She's just another missing person. And most people would say they already know what the outcome is; we just don't have the detail yet.
We did get some traction in the media. But to really cut through you need that additional "X" factor. And even then, the media cycle will soon pass, and all you're left with is the hangover from the false hope that lots of media attention will actually change anything. And maybe (if that's who you are, and your story happens to cut through) some money from a fundraiser or selling interviews etc.
For those with an interest, of those 170k people reported missing, 77% are found within 24 hours, 87% within 48 hours. 3% will be missing longer than a week; <1% for longer than a month. At any one time there are over 5000 people who are "long term missing" (meaning more than one year). Of those 170k per year, about 0.5% have fatal outcomes.
Interesting post, appreciate that.My sister drove her car to a remote location and vanished. It looks like a deliberate act, because it was - she drove there. There's no real mystery, no whodunnit. She's just missing, but there's no obvious chance she was abducted (by humans, aliens or beasts).
There's no intriguing story. She's just another missing person. And most people would say they already know what the outcome is; we just don't have the detail yet.
We did get some traction in the media. But to really cut through you need that additional "X" factor. And even then, the media cycle will soon pass, and all you're left with is the hangover from the false hope that lots of media attention will actually change anything. And maybe (if that's who you are, and your story happens to cut through) some money from a fundraiser or selling interviews etc.
For those with an interest, of those 170k people reported missing, 77% are found within 24 hours, 87% within 48 hours. 3% will be missing longer than a week; <1% for longer than a month. At any one time there are over 5000 people who are "long term missing" (meaning more than one year). Of those 170k per year, about 0.5% have fatal outcomes.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Just incase you hadn't noticed it before.
2HFL said:
Probably a case of mistaken identity. He looks like any other English chav. I hadn’t realised until now just where he was walking from.
I can’t understand this at all. The area he was in, if he stuck to the road (and there’s absolutely no reason not too as it’s the easiest way of getting anywhere), he would have been found/seen in daylight within twenty minutes.
I’ve driven the road several times past Masca ….. It’s a twisty narrow but well tarmaced that has a decent amount of traffic on it, tourist and local. It also has barriers to the road edge.
Lastly because of its geological location within the mountains and the sea, it doesn’t get that hot during the day unlike other parts of the island especially in the South. The north and north west of the island is quite temperate.
I can’t understand this at all. The area he was in, if he stuck to the road (and there’s absolutely no reason not too as it’s the easiest way of getting anywhere), he would have been found/seen in daylight within twenty minutes.
I’ve driven the road several times past Masca ….. It’s a twisty narrow but well tarmaced that has a decent amount of traffic on it, tourist and local. It also has barriers to the road edge.
Lastly because of its geological location within the mountains and the sea, it doesn’t get that hot during the day unlike other parts of the island especially in the South. The north and north west of the island is quite temperate.
g4ry13 said:
2HFL said:
Probably a case of mistaken identity. He looks like any other English chav. Wozy68 said:
I hadn’t realised until now just where he was walking from.
I can’t understand this at all. The area he was in, if he stuck to the road (and there’s absolutely no reason not too as it’s the easiest way of getting anywhere), he would have been found/seen in daylight within twenty minutes.
I’ve driven the road several times past Masca ….. It’s a twisty narrow but well tarmaced that has a decent amount of traffic on it, tourist and local. It also has barriers to the road edge.
Lastly because of its geological location within the mountains and the sea, it doesn’t get that hot during the day unlike other parts of the island especially in the South. The north and north west of the island is quite temperate.
Agreed. North and South are very different, like two different countries at times.I can’t understand this at all. The area he was in, if he stuck to the road (and there’s absolutely no reason not too as it’s the easiest way of getting anywhere), he would have been found/seen in daylight within twenty minutes.
I’ve driven the road several times past Masca ….. It’s a twisty narrow but well tarmaced that has a decent amount of traffic on it, tourist and local. It also has barriers to the road edge.
Lastly because of its geological location within the mountains and the sea, it doesn’t get that hot during the day unlike other parts of the island especially in the South. The north and north west of the island is quite temperate.
skwdenyer said:
For those with an interest, of those 170k people reported missing, 77% are found within 24 hours, 87% within 48 hours. 3% will be missing longer than a week; <1% for longer than a month. At any one time there are over 5000 people who are "long term missing" (meaning more than one year). Of those 170k per year, about 0.5% have fatal outcomes.
Is that right? Those figures are rather neat.77% within 24 hours
87% within 48 hours
97% within a week
Alickadoo said:
skwdenyer said:
For those with an interest, of those 170k people reported missing, 77% are found within 24 hours, 87% within 48 hours. 3% will be missing longer than a week; <1% for longer than a month. At any one time there are over 5000 people who are "long term missing" (meaning more than one year). Of those 170k per year, about 0.5% have fatal outcomes.
Is that right? Those figures are rather neat.77% within 24 hours
87% within 48 hours
97% within a week
Alickadoo said:
Is that right? Those figures are rather neat.
77% within 24 hours
87% within 48 hours
97% within a week
Most MFH reports come from children’s homes where the late return or failure to return. You’d be staggered at the numbers and amount of Police time “wasted” in reporting/recording/locating/returning and cancelling the reports .. till the next night when they do it all over again 77% within 24 hours
87% within 48 hours
97% within a week
The little darlings almost invariably return of their own accord or are picked up by Police and returned
Elsewhere most reappear or are located by Police
A number of long term MFH can also be kids taken by an estranged parent abroad . The Police likely know where they are but cannot recover them
There’s a myriad of reasons but I’d say the above figures are about right
The number like skydenywr’s sister are fortunately the minority
Earthdweller said:
Alickadoo said:
Is that right? Those figures are rather neat.
77% within 24 hours
87% within 48 hours
97% within a week
Most MFH reports come from children’s homes where the late return or failure to return. You’d be staggered at the numbers and amount of Police time “wasted” in reporting/recording/locating/returning and cancelling the reports .. till the next night when they do it all over again 77% within 24 hours
87% within 48 hours
97% within a week
The little darlings almost invariably return of their own accord or are picked up by Police and returned
Elsewhere most reappear or are located by Police
A number of long term MFH can also be kids taken by an estranged parent abroad . The Police likely know where they are but cannot recover them
There’s a myriad of reasons but I’d say the above figures are about right
The number like skydenywr’s sister are fortunately the minority
Statistics relating to uk missing persons. An illuminating read, 31 pages.
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Just picked up on this clip which was posted, which purports to be Lucy (in distress) finding/talking to Jay, if it’s legit and even them of course.
https://streamable.com/0wyyz5
https://streamable.com/0wyyz5
2HFL said:
Just picked up on this clip which was posted, which purports to be Lucy (in distress) finding/talking to Jay, if it’s legit and even them of course.
https://streamable.com/0wyyz5
If true, that seems like it might lend support to the anonymous post on Facebook detailing the mechanics of the supposed drug dealing, the missing bag, etc.https://streamable.com/0wyyz5
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