Can Sir Keir Starmer revive the Labour Party? (Vol. 2)
Discussion
Ascayman said:
hidetheelephants said:
Ascayman said:
So kids both private and state being disadvantaged are just collateral damage so you can laugh at the ‘pear clutchers’ whatever or whoever they are?
Nice bit of projection there, I care not at all about the VAT policy I just find the hypocrisy rich in humour.That sort of hypocrisy?
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hstewie said:

Vanden Saab said:
They have kept Lammy out of the way since he suggested that trans women could grow a cervix a couple of years ago and that campaigners for women's rights were dinosaurs.
I suspect it's more likely because there are rumours that he won't be Foreign Secretary.Is it the time for the Burgon to rise into government and put us back in the centre of international affairs ?
Is it time for Richard to be working closely with Angela?
Time4change
Time4 the Burgon
hidetheelephants said:
f
k me, did he and Murray buy their suits from a charity shop blindfolded and then sleep in a skip before the photoshoot?
The Burgon does not need to wear an expensive suit. 
The Burgon does not need to look pretty for a photoshoot
The Burgon does not need expensive after shave or £400 shoes
The Burgon expresses himself through words, powerful oratory which once heard is remembered both for its meaning and delivery
anonymoususer said:
It's not often I say this, but today I must your post has opened up possibilities in my head that only ytesterday would have been too much to hope for.
Is it the time for the Burgon to rise into government and put us back in the centre of international affairs ?
Is it time for Richard to be working closely with Angela?
Time4change
Time4 the Burgon

While we're talking shoes Angela's Brothel Creepers are an odd choice.Is it the time for the Burgon to rise into government and put us back in the centre of international affairs ?
Is it time for Richard to be working closely with Angela?
Time4change
Time4 the Burgon
BTW who's that on her left?
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hstewie said:

Vanden Saab said:
They have kept Lammy out of the way since he suggested that trans women could grow a cervix a couple of years ago and that campaigners for women's rights were dinosaurs.
I suspect it's more likely because there are rumours that he won't be Foreign Secretary.b
hstewie said:

Iain Dale is suggesting Douglas Alexander (who I've seen mentioned before) or possibly David Miliband.
David Milliband was touted a few weeks ago but only for a day or two so I don't know where it came from. More likely to be Douglas Alexander IMO, although I think Miliband will be better.I doubt they are seriously proposing to knight Milliband and have him be foreign secretary from the HoL, amusing tabloid fodder though it is.
Perhaps if it does happen we should look forward to a return of the divine right of kings and Brian will dictate net zero and mandatory talking to plants.

FiF said:
Plus certain of them are already leaking that there will be an emergency budget in the autumn with Rachel Reeves taking a "and the kitchen sink" type approach that will go far beyond what is being declared in the manifesto, ref Wes Streeting and other shadow cabinet members.
There's an attempt to play in advance the "well once we've seen the books" card, but even Reeves admits that's false as the OBR lays out all the details to make a proper assessment and costing. We know Labour is not telling the truth and extremely surprisingly they're starting to admit it.
Why would a budget in the Autumn be an "emergency" budget? It isn't exactly unusual to have either an Autumn budget or a post election budget.There's an attempt to play in advance the "well once we've seen the books" card, but even Reeves admits that's false as the OBR lays out all the details to make a proper assessment and costing. We know Labour is not telling the truth and extremely surprisingly they're starting to admit it.
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