Junior Doctors' Pay Claim Poll
Poll: Junior Doctors' Pay Claim Poll
Total Members Polled: 1034
Discussion
loafer123 said:
Evanivitch said:
And is by no choice of GPs...
GP practices are mainly owned by senior GPs. Of course they want to maximise their profits. dmsims said:
It most definitely is - follow the money.............
Ignorance is bliss, eh lads?Evanivitch said:
And is by no choice of GPs...
PA are paid more than a junior doctor with equivalent training. If GPs could hire doctors with the same experience and equivalent training, then that would make "maximise profits", wouldn't it? So why can't they do that?
GPs (businesses with only one customer...) will not receive additional funding if they try to grow their practice through hiring more GPs. Instead they have to employ PA, paramedics, care coordinators etc to fund further patient-facing roles.
People complain they can't get an appointment at their GP.
6500 doctors couldn't get ST1 trainee roles because NHS has been told not to fund it.
Follow the money. Yeah, who's?
People in glass houses.
I suggest you go away and spend some more time understanding how it all works.
I suggest you go away and spend some more time understanding how it all works.
Evanivitch said:
Ignorance is bliss, eh lads?
PA are paid more than a junior doctor with equivalent training. If GPs could hire doctors with the same experience and equivalent training, then that would make "maximise profits", wouldn't it? So why can't they do that?
GPs (businesses with only one customer...) will not receive additional funding if they try to grow their practice through hiring more GPs. Instead they have to employ PA, paramedics, care coordinators etc to fund further patient-facing roles.
People complain they can't get an appointment at their GP.
6500 doctors couldn't get ST1 trainee roles because NHS has been told not to fund it.
Follow the money. Yeah, who's?
PA are paid more than a junior doctor with equivalent training. If GPs could hire doctors with the same experience and equivalent training, then that would make "maximise profits", wouldn't it? So why can't they do that?
GPs (businesses with only one customer...) will not receive additional funding if they try to grow their practice through hiring more GPs. Instead they have to employ PA, paramedics, care coordinators etc to fund further patient-facing roles.
People complain they can't get an appointment at their GP.
6500 doctors couldn't get ST1 trainee roles because NHS has been told not to fund it.
Follow the money. Yeah, who's?
Evanivitch said:
Ignorance is bliss, eh lads?
PA are paid more than a junior doctor with equivalent training.
Last time I looked at the pay scales that was potentially the case for the first two years of employment only. PA are paid more than a junior doctor with equivalent training.
https://www.prospects.ac.uk/job-profiles/physician...
Oliver Hardy said:
PAs, nurses and paramedics could do a lot of the job GPs do now.
They certainly can, but we clearly have a huge back log in the GP system, we have an abundance of applicants that want to do the role, and yet it's government policy that is driving us down one solution, and not medical practice. The PA assistant type role is spreading throughout the NHS.
My Daughter has trained hard taken many exams and now has to help supervise Anasthetic Assistants who are administering anaesthetics with just two years training.
The last one did not know what an F1 would be expected to yet are allowed to do the role. As she says anyone can administer the drugs once they have worked out the amounts and taken full history themselves, the trick is keeping them asleep during the procedure and then waking them up.
What others have reported to the BMA is the AA’s are reluctant to ask for help and then a fully qualified Dr has to fix their mess.
This is all cost savings to allow people not good enough to become a qualified Dr to try to fill gaps. How it is in th UK is not how it is in the US where PA’s are wanting to become DR’s and this role allows them to work toward it
My Daughter has trained hard taken many exams and now has to help supervise Anasthetic Assistants who are administering anaesthetics with just two years training.
The last one did not know what an F1 would be expected to yet are allowed to do the role. As she says anyone can administer the drugs once they have worked out the amounts and taken full history themselves, the trick is keeping them asleep during the procedure and then waking them up.
What others have reported to the BMA is the AA’s are reluctant to ask for help and then a fully qualified Dr has to fix their mess.
This is all cost savings to allow people not good enough to become a qualified Dr to try to fill gaps. How it is in th UK is not how it is in the US where PA’s are wanting to become DR’s and this role allows them to work toward it
oddman said:
Oliver Hardy said:
PAs, nurses and paramedics could do a lot of the job GPs do now.
Undoubtedly. The trick is spotting which jobs.They don't know what they don't know
spaximus said:
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As she says anyone can administer the drugs once they have worked out the amounts and taken full history themselves, the trick is keeping them asleep during the procedure and then waking them up.
A friend is a consultant anaesthetist. He was asked by a private patient to discount his fee on an operation. He said, "Sure. I do three jobs. Putting you to sleep. Keeping you asleep and waking you up. Which one do you want me to miss out?" As she says anyone can administer the drugs once they have worked out the amounts and taken full history themselves, the trick is keeping them asleep during the procedure and then waking them up.
The patient paid his full fee.
AstonZagato said:
A friend is a consultant anaesthetist. He was asked by a private patient to discount his fee on an operation. He said, "Sure. I do three jobs. Putting you to sleep. Keeping you asleep and waking you up. Which one do you want me to miss out?"
The patient paid his full fee.
A friend of mine is a taxi driver and a passenger wanted a discount on a trip to the airport, he said "Sure, I do three jobs, I pick you up, I drive you there and then I drop you off, which one do you want me to miss out?" He paid the full fair!!The patient paid his full fee.
272BHP said:
pavarotti1980 said:
Evanivitch said:
Did I dream about the massive vaccine centres in every town?
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