Missing lad in Tenerife
Discussion
Jordie Barretts sock said:
hurstg01 said:
LimaDelta said:
PH is an odd place at times. A thread about a missing person in the Canary Islands turns into a thread about Bradford council tax and the Ilkley separatist movement. 
....and the worst game of hide and seek since Anne Frank
ApOrbital said:
'Unwatchable' is the word you're looking for I think.
Ari said:
cossy400 said:
The latest installment is his mum is apparently the half sister of Karen Matthews, her who hid her daughter in the bed.
And you just believed that and are now repeating it? It joins the list along side
Drug deals
Kidnapping
Murder
The holes in Lucy's speech
His Instagram is being used
I'm sure I've missed some also.
98elise said:
g4ry13 said:
boyse7en said:
zarjaz1991 said:
Leptons said:
Of course it matters, it’s context. He wasn’t beating old grannies up for their pension money or nonceing. He doesn’t sound like a persistent offender, has a Job and has served the sentence given to him. He was 16, trying to act hard in front of other 16 year olds. But according to the bell end brigade deserves to be punished for the rest of all time. 
Nope. It’s just to remind people that he’s not the sweet innocent kid he’s portrayed as being. He’s a violent thug.Why is this scrote getting such media coverage and resources chucked at him?
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
No, we haven’t run a GoFundMe. Perhaps we missed a trick? I’m not going to get into detail, but we’ve spent a robust 5 figures so far. Costs mount up; many (most?) families would struggle.
I obviously have enormous sympathy with any family going through this; trying to figure out what to do in another country and language must be another level of pain again.
Whatever the chap’s done, the criminal justice system made a determination. Whether that past behaviour is illuminating now or not doesn’t really matter. At the heart of this is a Mother whose son is missing; I don’t really care how good or bad he’s been in the past; I can tell you with absolute certainty that his disappearance is the most awful, wrenching thing to happen to a family.
I hope he’s found, ideally alive.
skwdenyer said:
That would be me.
No, we haven’t run a GoFundMe. Perhaps we missed a trick? I’m not going to get into detail, but we’ve spent a robust 5 figures so far. Costs mount up; many (most?) families would struggle.
I obviously have enormous sympathy with any family going through this; trying to figure out what to do in another country and language must be another level of pain again.
Whatever the chap’s done, the criminal justice system made a determination. Whether that past behaviour is illuminating now or not doesn’t really matter. At the heart of this is a Mother whose son is missing; I don’t really care how good or bad he’s been in the past; I can tell you with absolute certainty that his disappearance is the most awful, wrenching thing to happen to a family.
I hope he’s found, ideally alive.
What a thoughtful, heartbreaking post. Thanks for taking the time and good luck. Hopefully your contribution will encourage some to think a little longer before posting...No, we haven’t run a GoFundMe. Perhaps we missed a trick? I’m not going to get into detail, but we’ve spent a robust 5 figures so far. Costs mount up; many (most?) families would struggle.
I obviously have enormous sympathy with any family going through this; trying to figure out what to do in another country and language must be another level of pain again.
Whatever the chap’s done, the criminal justice system made a determination. Whether that past behaviour is illuminating now or not doesn’t really matter. At the heart of this is a Mother whose son is missing; I don’t really care how good or bad he’s been in the past; I can tell you with absolute certainty that his disappearance is the most awful, wrenching thing to happen to a family.
I hope he’s found, ideally alive.
biggbn said:
skwdenyer said:
That would be me.
No, we haven’t run a GoFundMe. Perhaps we missed a trick? I’m not going to get into detail, but we’ve spent a robust 5 figures so far. Costs mount up; many (most?) families would struggle.
I obviously have enormous sympathy with any family going through this; trying to figure out what to do in another country and language must be another level of pain again.
Whatever the chap’s done, the criminal justice system made a determination. Whether that past behaviour is illuminating now or not doesn’t really matter. At the heart of this is a Mother whose son is missing; I don’t really care how good or bad he’s been in the past; I can tell you with absolute certainty that his disappearance is the most awful, wrenching thing to happen to a family.
I hope he’s found, ideally alive.
What a thoughtful, heartbreaking post. Thanks for taking the time and good luck. Hopefully your contribution will encourage some to think a little longer before posting...No, we haven’t run a GoFundMe. Perhaps we missed a trick? I’m not going to get into detail, but we’ve spent a robust 5 figures so far. Costs mount up; many (most?) families would struggle.
I obviously have enormous sympathy with any family going through this; trying to figure out what to do in another country and language must be another level of pain again.
Whatever the chap’s done, the criminal justice system made a determination. Whether that past behaviour is illuminating now or not doesn’t really matter. At the heart of this is a Mother whose son is missing; I don’t really care how good or bad he’s been in the past; I can tell you with absolute certainty that his disappearance is the most awful, wrenching thing to happen to a family.
I hope he’s found, ideally alive.
Gecko1978 said:
biggbn said:
skwdenyer said:
That would be me.
No, we haven’t run a GoFundMe. Perhaps we missed a trick? I’m not going to get into detail, but we’ve spent a robust 5 figures so far. Costs mount up; many (most?) families would struggle.
I obviously have enormous sympathy with any family going through this; trying to figure out what to do in another country and language must be another level of pain again.
Whatever the chap’s done, the criminal justice system made a determination. Whether that past behaviour is illuminating now or not doesn’t really matter. At the heart of this is a Mother whose son is missing; I don’t really care how good or bad he’s been in the past; I can tell you with absolute certainty that his disappearance is the most awful, wrenching thing to happen to a family.
I hope he’s found, ideally alive.
What a thoughtful, heartbreaking post. Thanks for taking the time and good luck. Hopefully your contribution will encourage some to think a little longer before posting...No, we haven’t run a GoFundMe. Perhaps we missed a trick? I’m not going to get into detail, but we’ve spent a robust 5 figures so far. Costs mount up; many (most?) families would struggle.
I obviously have enormous sympathy with any family going through this; trying to figure out what to do in another country and language must be another level of pain again.
Whatever the chap’s done, the criminal justice system made a determination. Whether that past behaviour is illuminating now or not doesn’t really matter. At the heart of this is a Mother whose son is missing; I don’t really care how good or bad he’s been in the past; I can tell you with absolute certainty that his disappearance is the most awful, wrenching thing to happen to a family.
I hope he’s found, ideally alive.
My sister drove her car to a remote location and vanished. It looks like a deliberate act, because it was - she drove there. There's no real mystery, no whodunnit. She's just missing, but there's no obvious chance she was abducted (by humans, aliens or beasts).
There's no intriguing story. She's just another missing person. And most people would say they already know what the outcome is; we just don't have the detail yet.
We did get some traction in the media. But to really cut through you need that additional "X" factor. And even then, the media cycle will soon pass, and all you're left with is the hangover from the false hope that lots of media attention will actually change anything. And maybe (if that's who you are, and your story happens to cut through) some money from a fundraiser or selling interviews etc.
For those with an interest, of those 170k people reported missing, 77% are found within 24 hours, 87% within 48 hours. 3% will be missing longer than a week; <1% for longer than a month. At any one time there are over 5000 people who are "long term missing" (meaning more than one year). Of those 170k per year, about 0.5% have fatal outcomes.
skwdenyer said:
98elise said:
g4ry13 said:
boyse7en said:
zarjaz1991 said:
Leptons said:
Of course it matters, it’s context. He wasn’t beating old grannies up for their pension money or nonceing. He doesn’t sound like a persistent offender, has a Job and has served the sentence given to him. He was 16, trying to act hard in front of other 16 year olds. But according to the bell end brigade deserves to be punished for the rest of all time.
Nope. It’s just to remind people that he’s not the sweet innocent kid he’s portrayed as being. He’s a violent thug.Why is this scrote getting such media coverage and resources chucked at him?
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
No, we haven’t run a GoFundMe. Perhaps we missed a trick? I’m not going to get into detail, but we’ve spent a robust 5 figures so far. Costs mount up; many (most?) families would struggle.
I obviously have enormous sympathy with any family going through this; trying to figure out what to do in another country and language must be another level of pain again.
Whatever the chap’s done, the criminal justice system made a determination. Whether that past behaviour is illuminating now or not doesn’t really matter. At the heart of this is a Mother whose son is missing; I don’t really care how good or bad he’s been in the past; I can tell you with absolute certainty that his disappearance is the most awful, wrenching thing to happen to a family.
I hope he’s found, ideally alive.
skwdenyer said:
Because 170k people are reported missing every year; because the media loves a mystery with a chance of a resolution. Nicola Bulley vanished in an instant in broad daylight; Michael Mosley likewise just wandered off; this lad likewise; the chap a few years back who is believed to have slept in a dumpster; and so on.
My sister drove her car to a remote location and vanished. It looks like a deliberate act, because it was - she drove there. There's no real mystery, no whodunnit. She's just missing, but there's no obvious chance she was abducted (by humans, aliens or beasts).
There's no intriguing story. She's just another missing person. And most people would say they already know what the outcome is; we just don't have the detail yet.
We did get some traction in the media. But to really cut through you need that additional "X" factor. And even then, the media cycle will soon pass, and all you're left with is the hangover from the false hope that lots of media attention will actually change anything. And maybe (if that's who you are, and your story happens to cut through) some money from a fundraiser or selling interviews etc.
For those with an interest, of those 170k people reported missing, 77% are found within 24 hours, 87% within 48 hours. 3% will be missing longer than a week; <1% for longer than a month. At any one time there are over 5000 people who are "long term missing" (meaning more than one year). Of those 170k per year, about 0.5% have fatal outcomes.
Interesting post, appreciate that.My sister drove her car to a remote location and vanished. It looks like a deliberate act, because it was - she drove there. There's no real mystery, no whodunnit. She's just missing, but there's no obvious chance she was abducted (by humans, aliens or beasts).
There's no intriguing story. She's just another missing person. And most people would say they already know what the outcome is; we just don't have the detail yet.
We did get some traction in the media. But to really cut through you need that additional "X" factor. And even then, the media cycle will soon pass, and all you're left with is the hangover from the false hope that lots of media attention will actually change anything. And maybe (if that's who you are, and your story happens to cut through) some money from a fundraiser or selling interviews etc.
For those with an interest, of those 170k people reported missing, 77% are found within 24 hours, 87% within 48 hours. 3% will be missing longer than a week; <1% for longer than a month. At any one time there are over 5000 people who are "long term missing" (meaning more than one year). Of those 170k per year, about 0.5% have fatal outcomes.
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