Junior Doctors' Pay Claim Poll

[turbobloke]

Gary C said:

Killboy said:

Gary C said:

Simple enough I would have thought.

An objection to the statement about not talking about Fight Club... I mean the strike if your a member of the JD union.

A bit of an odd way to say that then. Why would one want to air their situation on PH where the WideAwake (or the opposite side - difficult to tell) club think anyone earning £32001 is overpaid?

Maybe, but I agree that its not right to be saying to people to 'think carefully' about what they post if they are a member of the JD union.

Almost suggesting censorship.

It's not right. It smacks of censorship reflecting fear over fragility in the BMA JD union position and tactics.

[turbobloke]

Gary C said:

Killboy said:

Gary C said:

Maybe, but I agree that its not right to be saying to people to 'think carefully' about what they post if they are a member of the JD union.

Almost suggesting censorship.

Who is suggesting censorship? Censorious control freakery? Midnight knocks on the door? stand-over thuggery? marxist minority of t'JD BMA commitee, WideAwake Club?

Where is this coming from?

Its pay negotiation. Its pretty simple really. People have been pretty open about what's going on on this thread, pity others don't seem to be able to understand it

I think your arguing with the wrong person.

ISWYM but it's not even arguing, it's assertion in polly parrot mode.

Hinting (or warning) that PH JDs should stfu wasn't in my post, nor was that ludicrously censorious approach present in any way shape or form. That was from somewhere else. If anybody is defending it, shame on them. JDs need to be free to express their opinions either way. My reply was in support for open debate. If anyone opposes that, shame on them too.

If there's nobody suggesting that JDs should keep quiet, nor anybody saying that debate should be shut down in any way, they could say so explicity. If censorious behaviour is being supported, likewise speak out, and why not explain at the same time. Otherwise we're actually in agreement.

Whatever else, recent replies don't suggest confidence in the current JD position.

[turbobloke]

It's not YouGov, then again neither is it good news for the BMA JD political activists...a survey of constituents by a Conservative MP in Shropshire found 62% of South Shropshire resident respondents are against the strikes, with only 35% in support. It also found attempts from activists to infuence the outcome using 'fake' addresses. Straight and open debate is disliked elsewhere, clearly. Shame on whoever it is; more at the link below.

The report also notes that 51% of respondents supported the current offer, 28% wanted an improved government offer, and 18% backed the BMA demands. As many as 18% is surprising. This PH poll has support for the BMA's ludicrous demand at 11% iirc.

https://www.shropshirestar.com/news/health/2024/01...

More shooting messenger fallacies incoming.