General Election July 2024
Discussion
Blue62 said:
Hugo Stiglitz said:
Why have they called a snap election? They are going to get slaughtered.
Utter madness. Labour must be laughing.
Strong rumours that a VONC was on the cards, with key policies like small boats and Rwanda likely to fail over the summer. I think his hand was forced, otherwise he’d have gone in May if he wanted an early election. Utter madness. Labour must be laughing.
- Better weather for pensioners to come out and vote
- NHS will be in better shape than the traditional winter crisis
- They are confident the 1st Rwanda flight will leave before July
- Interest rate cut next month due to low inflation
- People generally feel more positive in the summer
I guess ultimately it was the best, worst option.
E63eeeeee... said:
The UK's economy is about 3 trillion dollars a year. The idea that we can’t afford to have basic things like clean water, working courts, education, healthcare and housing is capitulation to people trying to reduce your expectations for their own benefit.
The size of our economy is barely relevant.How much do we take in in tax receipts, and how much do we spend.
There are different reasons why the water companies are f
ked. Perpetual govt fkwittery for the last 40yrs or so primarily. Blue62 said:
Hard to believe anyone with an iota of intelligence could still think the Tories are an option.
Justice system is kaput, prisons overcrowded to the extent that criminals are being released early, while the police being asked to limit arrests.
NHS is on its knees.
Our defence budget is so bad that we can’t even pay for a D-Day flyover, with two massively over budget aircraft carriers, both late and without a full complement of aircraft.
The government is expected to spend almost £5bn on post Brexit border controls.
Schools are falling apart, we’ve had ten education secretaries since 2010.
Prices have increased by 20% in the last three years and taxation is at its highest level since WW2.
Immigration has reached record levels directly contradicting government promises and the less said about the Rwanda fiasco the better.
Universities have been hit hard by the reduction in foreign students and practically every local council is in financial difficulties, some facing bankruptcy.
To top it all we’ve had the previous two PM’s resign in disgrace. But Labour……..
All valid points, which labour seem unable to address. Easier to sling mud.Justice system is kaput, prisons overcrowded to the extent that criminals are being released early, while the police being asked to limit arrests.
NHS is on its knees.
Our defence budget is so bad that we can’t even pay for a D-Day flyover, with two massively over budget aircraft carriers, both late and without a full complement of aircraft.
The government is expected to spend almost £5bn on post Brexit border controls.
Schools are falling apart, we’ve had ten education secretaries since 2010.
Prices have increased by 20% in the last three years and taxation is at its highest level since WW2.
Immigration has reached record levels directly contradicting government promises and the less said about the Rwanda fiasco the better.
Universities have been hit hard by the reduction in foreign students and practically every local council is in financial difficulties, some facing bankruptcy.
To top it all we’ve had the previous two PM’s resign in disgrace. But Labour……..
Real issue is that trust in all politicians is at an all time low and most people are apathetic.
I think it’ll be much closer than the left currently think.
Boringvolvodriver said:
I am also politically homeless right now although feel strongly that we should all excerise the right to vote rather than just abstain. Unless one votes, then imo you don’t really have a right to complain.
Maybe a “none of the above” party might do better!
Unless any of the parties can convince me then it will be a spoilt paper for me
A fair point…Mrs chemistry has said exactly the same. I’ll probably end up going to vote, but only for an independent, Monster Raving Loony, spoilt paper, etc…to do my civic duty and retain complaining rights!Maybe a “none of the above” party might do better!
Unless any of the parties can convince me then it will be a spoilt paper for me
I've always been a conservative voter previously and was proud to live in an area with a conservative MP (because so many of the population here work etc). However, they've become such a useless, self-serving stshow over the last few years I won't be voting for them now. They've done plenty wrong in the last decade and a half (destroying law and order in the UK, continuing to oversee the decline of the NHS and doing nothing to stop the general decline of the UK into a total sthole). Despite that, at least they weren't Labour.
I don't think I could ever vote Labour. I have friends that I want to look in the eye and tell them that I was always a decent and honest man who sought to do the right thing and never readily or knowingly did the wrong thing. With no-one worth voting for I think I'll save myself the bother of even going to the polling station.
tshow over the last few years I won't be voting for them now. They've done plenty wrong in the last decade and a half (destroying law and order in the UK, continuing to oversee the decline of the NHS and doing nothing to stop the general decline of the UK into a total sthole). Despite that, at least they weren't Labour. I don't think I could ever vote Labour. I have friends that I want to look in the eye and tell them that I was always a decent and honest man who sought to do the right thing and never readily or knowingly did the wrong thing. With no-one worth voting for I think I'll save myself the bother of even going to the polling station.
WestyCarl said:
Blue62 said:
Hugo Stiglitz said:
Why have they called a snap election? They are going to get slaughtered.
Utter madness. Labour must be laughing.
Strong rumours that a VONC was on the cards, with key policies like small boats and Rwanda likely to fail over the summer. I think his hand was forced, otherwise he’d have gone in May if he wanted an early election. Utter madness. Labour must be laughing.
- Better weather for pensioners to come out and vote
- NHS will be in better shape than the traditional winter crisis
- They are confident the 1st Rwanda flight will leave before July
- Interest rate cut next month due to low inflation
- People generally feel more positive in the summer
I guess ultimately it was the best, worst option.
Otherwise it's simply yet another dud move by the dimwit.
Fortunately away on holiday from tomorrow. Unfortunately it cannot be for 6wks.
Maybe we'll finally see some concrete policies from Labour. Though frankly I do not believe they have it in them. Funniest outcome would be Labour not managing an outright win. But doubtful that's possible.
I make no secret of despising the tories, but i don't trust Labour either. I want to see the tories gone but I'm not holding my breath that anything much will change.
In the words of The Who it will be a case of 'Meet the new boss, same as the old boss' (sadly).
Contemptable self serving corrupt scum everywhere in politics. What a time to be alive.
In the words of The Who it will be a case of 'Meet the new boss, same as the old boss' (sadly).
Contemptable self serving corrupt scum everywhere in politics. What a time to be alive.
survivalist said:
All valid points, which labour seem unable to address. Easier to sling mud.
Real issue is that trust in all politicians is at an all time low and most people are apathetic.
I think it’ll be much closer than the left currently think.
It’s not mud slinging, it’s looking at the state we are in after 14 years. Do you really think voting them back in is the right thing to do? Real issue is that trust in all politicians is at an all time low and most people are apathetic.
I think it’ll be much closer than the left currently think.
I’m not ‘the left’ whatever you mean by that, just someone who has voted Tory in the past and has witnessed the most inept, corrupt administration in my lifetime. I will vote tactically and agree that the polls will tighten.
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: Don't think the mishandling of Brexit was a global event.
Don't think Johnson being crooked as scoliosis was a global event.
Don't think the nutjob membership choosing Truss and her mini-budget after Johnson was a global event.
You get the idea.
Shall we look back at Labours failings Don't think Johnson being crooked as scoliosis was a global event.
Don't think the nutjob membership choosing Truss and her mini-budget after Johnson was a global event.
You get the idea.
Blue62 said:
Such a shame you missed the point. The money spent so far has been wasted, like a lot of other projects this dire administration has attempted to execute. Care to deal with any other points? Right?
Sadly we're not about to get any less waste any time soon on anything.We do stand to have pyrrhic policies however.
We all need to avoid assertions that another govt cannot make things worse. As there is still a long way down the axis.
RemarkLima said:
I'd throw in that the blood scandal, cynically coming to light when the Tory's are on the ropes, means they can hand that poisoned chalice to the next party - and it'll be one hell of a poisoned chalice. IMHO the blood scandal will make the Post Office scandal look like a speeding fine if it's allowed to get traction, 1000's dead, 100's of thousands injured and crippled for life and all very much covered up as it'll cost too much.
So leaving that steaming turd for the next party will be a parting gift no one would want.
Both scandals are broadly fSo leaving that steaming turd for the next party will be a parting gift no one would want.
k all to do with this administration. They cross every single colour of party. So not sure why Sunak would want to quieten it down.Unless Sir Humphrey is real....
Murph7355 said:
Funniest outcome would be Labour not managing an outright win. But doubtful that's possible.
I agree that a minority Labour government (or one with a tiny majority) would be the least worst outcome. Sadly I expect Labour will get a thumping majority (off a low turnout) and we’ll hurtle increasingly rapidly towards third world country status.carlo996 said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: Don't think the mishandling of Brexit was a global event.
Don't think Johnson being crooked as scoliosis was a global event.
Don't think the nutjob membership choosing Truss and her mini-budget after Johnson was a global event.
You get the idea.
Shall we look back at Labours failings Don't think Johnson being crooked as scoliosis was a global event.
Don't think the nutjob membership choosing Truss and her mini-budget after Johnson was a global event.
You get the idea.
survivalist said:
All valid points, which labour seem unable to address. Easier to sling mud.
Real issue is that trust in all politicians is at an all time low and most people are apathetic.
I think it’ll be much closer than the left currently think.
"The left"?Real issue is that trust in all politicians is at an all time low and most people are apathetic.
I think it’ll be much closer than the left currently think.
Try anybody with any sense, who isn't blindly supporting the shambolic modern Tory party.
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