What is the Conservative legacy?

[anonymous-user]

Nomme de Plum said:

86 said:

UK could be first to get inflation below 2%

That will be embarrassing for all those doomsday economists who continually run the U.K. down

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-could-beat-us-...

Who cares.

Inflation was low throughout the most of those 13 years and has got us nowhere. NHS Waiting lists that were 4 weeks under labour are now at the 92% percentile 46 weeks or 14 weeks median. Whoopi if you are a life limiting illness. Plenty of other rather problematic statists as well like near bankrupt councils including Tory led ones who incurred the debt. Potholes. Poor care services for the informed and elderly. Crumbling schools and hospitals. The list is endless.

Oh and by every measure most people are worse off.

Once a complete idiot thinks a single statistic is a measure of how the economy is doing.

I take it you are not referring to me as an idiot?

That unfortunately is the future for the western world it won’t change AI will see to that. Workforce has very high sick rate and loves a working week focussed on a work life balance. Fine but sustained high growth that pays for public services will never be achieved without far higher productivity and no Government has a plan Labour were going to do it with a massive investment in Green energy but they have now dropped that.

[crankedup5]

The U.K. has been in a managed decline for decades. Managed by the hopeless three political parties of the past thirty years. And some want to re-elect more of the same, madness.

[glazbagun]

Plus Right to Buy, of course:


"The number of former council homes that are owner occupied has reduced over time. Data from 111 councils in England in 2017 revealed that over 40% of former council homes were now in the private rented sector"

https://lordslibrary.parliament.uk/right-to-buy-pa...

[shed driver]

glazbagun said:

Plus Right to Buy, of course:


"The number of former council homes that are owner occupied has reduced over time. Data from 111 councils in England in 2017 revealed that over 40% of former council homes were now in the private rented sector"

https://lordslibrary.parliament.uk/right-to-buy-pa...

Not part of this government's legacy.

What in the last half generation can this government go onto the streets and doorsteps and say "we achieved this, this is why we deserve your vote"

SD.

[greygoose]

shed driver said:

Not part of this government's legacy.

What in the last half generation can this government go onto the streets and doorsteps and say "we achieved this, this is why we deserve your vote"

SD.

Bigger yacht for Mone and more food banks?

[xstian]

86 said:

UK could be first to get inflation below 2%

That will be embarrassing for all those doomsday economists who continually run the U.K. down

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-could-beat-us-...

There is only one party that is running the UK down.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/business-67998084

[NerveAgent]

xstian said:

86 said:

UK could be first to get inflation below 2%

That will be embarrassing for all those doomsday economists who continually run the U.K. down

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-could-beat-us-...

There is only one party that is running the UK down.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/business-67998084

Oops

[anonymous-user]

86 said:

UK could be first to get inflation below 2%

That will be embarrassing for all those doomsday economists who continually run the U.K. down

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-could-beat-us-...

This aged like milk.

[President Merkin]

crankedup5 said:

Behave yourself HM-2.

Classic Cranked really. Adds nothing to the debate, you've been told repeatedly it's not true yet without a shred of evidence, you insist you're right.

As I say, the Tory legacy is not least the infantiisation of discourse sponsored by a cohort of elected morons, enabling underpowered people who would be much better off maintaining a dignifed silence. On that at least, Denis Thatcher had it right.

[Nomme de Plum]

86 said:

I take it you are not referring to me as an idiot?

That unfortunately is the future for the western world it won’t change AI will see to that. Workforce has very high sick rate and loves a working week focussed on a work life balance. Fine but sustained high growth that pays for public services will never be achieved without far higher productivity and no Government has a plan Labour were going to do it with a massive investment in Green energy but they have now dropped that.

Inflation has just crept up which is rather unfortunate but fortunately deflationary elements should help over the forthcoming months.

The UK has suffered poor productivity for decades. Why's is it that some other European countries better us, whilst providing a better standard of living and some with much better contentment metrics?

Fortunately Green energy roll out will continue and if we are smart, which we are in some sectors we can help our GDP growth with suitable investment. BTW 28Bn is not a huge amount in relation to a 3Trillion economy.

Oh and I just heard that UK life expectancy is now running 2-3 years behind many of or European countries. I suppose there is an upside to that if one looks on it a certain way.

[anonymoususer]

Nomme de Plum said:

Who cares.

Inflation was low throughout the most of those 13 years and has got us nowhere. NHS Waiting lists that were 4 weeks under labour are now at the 92% percentile 46 weeks or 14 weeks median. Whoopi if you are a life limiting illness. Plenty of other rather problematic statists as well like near bankrupt councils including Tory led ones who incurred the debt. Potholes. Poor care services for the informed and elderly. Crumbling schools and hospitals. The list is endless.

Oh and by every measure most people are worse off.

Once a complete idiot thinks a single statistic is a measure of how the economy is doing.

I am absolutely sure someone will pop up and explain why inflation is at what it is but............
To me and my wife it feels that inflation is way higher than what they say it is.
Just saying.........................

[captain_cynic]

anonymoususer said:

I am absolutely sure someone will pop up and explain why inflation is at what it is but............
To me and my wife it feels that inflation is way higher than what they say it is.
Just saying.........................

Depends what is in the basket of goods that you and your wife buy.

I think food inflation has been the most noticeable. My weekly shop has gone up by 20%. Energy inflation as well (electricity and gas).

This gets offset by goods that haven't gone up by much, when the govt measures inflation it needs to use the same basket of goods that it always has to be scientifically accurate, which will contain items from several categories. Your basket of goods may differ considerably, hence it's logical to feel that your basket may have gone up more than the average.

[Nomme de Plum]

anonymoususer said:

I am absolutely sure someone will pop up and explain why inflation is at what it is but............
To me and my wife it feels that inflation is way higher than what they say it is.
Just saying.........................

Inflation for many is higher than the published figures In fact the less well off see a higher figure due to the nature of their expenditure.

We had low inflation for most of the Tory time in office but still services have got worse and people generally poorer except if you are one of the top 1% of course.

[crankedup5]

Nomme de Plum said:

anonymoususer said:

I am absolutely sure someone will pop up and explain why inflation is at what it is but............
To me and my wife it feels that inflation is way higher than what they say it is.
Just saying.........................

Inflation for many is higher than the published figures In fact the less well off see a higher figure due to the nature of their expenditure.

We had low inflation for most of the Tory time in office but still services have got worse and people generally poorer except if you are one of the top 1% of course.

Why would they do that?

[Nomme de Plum]

crankedup5 said:

Nomme de Plum said:

anonymoususer said:

I am absolutely sure someone will pop up and explain why inflation is at what it is but............
To me and my wife it feels that inflation is way higher than what they say it is.
Just saying.........................

Inflation for many is higher than the published figures In fact the less well off see a higher figure due to the nature of their expenditure.

We had low inflation for most of the Tory time in office but still services have got worse and people generally poorer except if you are one of the top 1% of course.

Why would they do that?

I'm not telepathic. Why would who do what?

[Pit Pony]

glazbagun said:

Plus Right to Buy, of course:


"The number of former council homes that are owner occupied has reduced over time. Data from 111 councils in England in 2017 revealed that over 40% of former council homes were now in the private rented sector"

https://lordslibrary.parliament.uk/right-to-buy-pa...

That's because they are perfect rental properties. Practical, well built, and slightly less desirable so likely to achieve a better yield.

(My buy to let was built by the local council in 1954, and sold to its tenant in 1988) eventually became a rental in 2007. We bought it in 2015. I reckon 50% of the houses in the area, are private rentals. Because they are perfect for families you tend to find they rarely come up for rent)

[Rufus Stone]

Hunt turns up in Davos via private jet and acknowledges the most dynamic economies have lower taxes, so he now wants to lower taxes to grow the UK economy. Errrrrrrrr, Truss.

[glazbagun]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/jan/30/uk-p...

UK drops to joint 20th in Transparency International's Corruption Perception index, it's worst position since the index started.

[oyster]

Nomme de Plum said:

Inflation for many is higher than the published figures In fact the less well off see a higher figure due to the nature of their expenditure.

We had low inflation for most of the Tory time in office but still services have got worse and people generally poorer except if you are one of the top 1% of course.

Surely the wealth of most people over 45/50 is far higher now than it was in 2010?
Pensions are up way above inflation and house prices have also outgrown inflation over that period.

Suspect it’s a lot more than the top 1%.

[Nomme de Plum]

oyster said:

Nomme de Plum said:

Inflation for many is higher than the published figures In fact the less well off see a higher figure due to the nature of their expenditure.

We had low inflation for most of the Tory time in office but still services have got worse and people generally poorer except if you are one of the top 1% of course.

Surely the wealth of most people over 45/50 is far higher now than it was in 2010?
Pensions are up way above inflation and house prices have also outgrown inflation over that period.

Suspect it’s a lot more than the top 1%.

It will depend completely on their personal situation. There are plenty of those that have no assets like a house so I suspect they will be worse off. As for pensioners with property the large majority of those will live in very modest terraced houses built from the late 1800 to the 1960s. These need significant upkeep. It is both unrealistic and unreasonable to expect pensioners to move away from their social circle and the community they have lived with for decades. Modern properties including apartments for some which may be more appropriate are more expensive and located away from where they live.

It doesn't take away that the reality for the less well off is they see a higher inflation rate than the published figures we are all used to.

To me their legacy is a more divided and divisive society which also seems to reflect themselves as well.