Missing lad in Tenerife

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Puzzles

1,988 posts

114 months

Monday 24th June
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Flumpo said:
Puzzles said:
I must be missing something but surely he'd have followed the road?
Maybe ring the police and ask if they’ve tried shouting his name.
probably better to hire a plane and write a message in the sky

eldar

22,004 posts

199 months

Monday 24th June
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Puzzles said:
probably better to hire a plane and write a message in the sky
Does he speak Spanish?

Zetec-S

6,031 posts

96 months

Monday 24th June
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eldar said:
Puzzles said:
probably better to hire a plane and write a message in the sky
Does he speak Spanish?
Maybe they can use the gofundme money to pay for an English plane to fly out and do it?

PurpleTurtle

7,175 posts

147 months

Monday 24th June
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Much as I'm enjoying all the online memes and tempering it with the knowledge that this lad has form for a violent crime which means he's probably no angel, my inner decent human being is concerned for his welfare, a mother is missing her son etc.

So much of it seems dodgy though. This 'Lucy Mae' girl has a travel itinerary on Instagram that would put Alan Whicker to shame
Her doing an interview with ITV but not to camera, and coming up with this GoFundMe for £30k (a large amount, with and unspecified justification) just smacks (no pun intended) of them trying to raise ransom cash.

Rumours online are that the likely scenario is that he's ripped off some drug dealers and they want their money back, she's done this in a naive attempt to raise that but not really appreciating that the spotlight of publicity needed to raise the money doesn't really facilitate a clandestine transfer of the cash to some shady underworld figures.

I'm sure the Spanish police know a lot more than they are letting on.

Puzzles

1,988 posts

114 months

Monday 24th June
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eldar said:
Puzzles said:
probably better to hire a plane and write a message in the sky
Does he speak Spanish?
Damn it

phil-sti

2,723 posts

182 months

Monday 24th June
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PurpleTurtle said:
Much as I'm enjoying all the online memes and tempering it with the knowledge that this lad has form for a violent crime which means he's probably no angel, my inner decent human being is concerned for his welfare, a mother is missing her son etc.

So much of it seems dodgy though. This 'Lucy Mae' girl has a travel itinerary on Instagram that would put Alan Whicker to shame
Her doing an interview with ITV but not to camera, and coming up with this GoFundMe for £30k (a large amount, with and unspecified justification) just smacks (no pun intended) of them trying to raise ransom cash.

Rumours online are that the likely scenario is that he's ripped off some drug dealers and they want their money back, she's done this in a naive attempt to raise that but not really appreciating that the spotlight of publicity needed to raise the money doesn't really facilitate a clandestine transfer of the cash to some shady underworld figures.

I'm sure the Spanish police know a lot more than they are letting on.
I don't get how "he has ripped off drug dealers and this is an attempt to raise ransom money" is a more obvious scenario than the lad has got smashed, gone back to a house for afters, not realised how far the house is away and has come a cropper in an unfamilar area"


I mean if the first one is true it will make a cracking netflix documentary.

People seem to think because he got involved in shenanighans when he was 16 and partakes in a bit of party powder that he is accringtons version of scarface smile

p1doc

3,157 posts

187 months

Monday 24th June
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Richard-390a0 said:
pmsl-so true lol

PositronicRay

27,196 posts

186 months

Monday 24th June
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Or attempting a copy-cat Michael Mosley & raise cash, while holed up somewhere safe.

andyeds1234

2,328 posts

173 months

Monday 24th June
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vaud said:
andyeds1234 said:
Indeed… Baghdad has its nice areas.
Oi Bradford has some nice areas. In fact Ilkley (pays council tax to Bradford) was the Sunday Times' best place to live winner.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-610372...

Going closer in to Bradford, Baildon and Saltaire are ok.
Ok fair enough…I’ve convinced the Mrs to switch from Baghdad to Bradford for our hols this year wink

FourWheelDrift

88,874 posts

287 months

Monday 24th June
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andyeds1234 said:
Ok fair enough…I’ve convinced the Mrs to switch from Baghdad to Bradford for our hols this year wink
Still take your bullet proof vest though.

cossy400

Original Poster:

3,201 posts

187 months

Monday 24th June
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phil-sti said:
PurpleTurtle said:
Much as I'm enjoying all the online memes and tempering it with the knowledge that this lad has form for a violent crime which means he's probably no angel, my inner decent human being is concerned for his welfare, a mother is missing her son etc.

So much of it seems dodgy though. This 'Lucy Mae' girl has a travel itinerary on Instagram that would put Alan Whicker to shame
Her doing an interview with ITV but not to camera, and coming up with this GoFundMe for £30k (a large amount, with and unspecified justification) just smacks (no pun intended) of them trying to raise ransom cash.

Rumours online are that the likely scenario is that he's ripped off some drug dealers and they want their money back, she's done this in a naive attempt to raise that but not really appreciating that the spotlight of publicity needed to raise the money doesn't really facilitate a clandestine transfer of the cash to some shady underworld figures.

I'm sure the Spanish police know a lot more than they are letting on.
I don't get how "he has ripped off drug dealers and this is an attempt to raise ransom money" is a more obvious scenario than the lad has got smashed, gone back to a house for afters, not realised how far the house is away and has come a cropper in an unfamilar area"


I mean if the first one is true it will make a cracking netflix documentary.

People seem to think because he got involved in shenanighans when he was 16 and partakes in a bit of party powder that he is accringtons version of scarface smile
The ripped off drug cartel comes from this Lucy and her well travelled past, the scenario is she's a drug runner, recruited said wannabe gangster wanting to earn some money.

But he chose to snort more than he sold then lost the remainder, hence where all the speculation about the 30k being a ransom after all Lucy was the one who set the GFM up in the 1st place.

Now IF that is the case it shows how bright she is thinking a 30k GFM would not raise and suspicions then throw in his some what attractive past.

Why didn't he go back to the house where these 2 lads took him?

Why didn't he stay on the road??

His phone can ping anywhere it's been chucked doesn't mean he ll be with it,but all accounts he was wasted.

If its drugs amd the 30k Is for them does GFM do cheques or bank transfers.

g4ry13

17,419 posts

258 months

Monday 24th June
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milkround said:
Petrus1983 said:
I'm beginning to think it is more drug related than anything. Having spent a fair bit of time near the Mexican border it seems like people like Jay are slow learners. You may think you're a big fish when you're down at your local club - but if you cross the line and suddenly think you're the big man, guess again.
Comparing Mexico to Tenerife is like comparing Bradford to Baghdad. It's utterly ridiculous.

What's more - even in Mexico cartels will go out of their way not to harm a tourist. And when it last happened the leaders of the cartel wrote a grovelling apology letter and handed over the fools who killed the two americans. There is a funny video of two American gay guys who got pulled over by a cartel after they got lost bird watching. The cartel members ended up having to calm them down: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kcl9OPzLIU
Any links to this? Also not clear whether those guys in the YouTube video were cartel members.

Mexico is a brutal place in some regions and they will happily set up roadblocks and kill people. Very much a 'shoot first and ask questions later' attitude in some parts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyBV81kVKVw&ab...

phil-sti

2,723 posts

182 months

Monday 24th June
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cossy400 said:
phil-sti said:
PurpleTurtle said:
Much as I'm enjoying all the online memes and tempering it with the knowledge that this lad has form for a violent crime which means he's probably no angel, my inner decent human being is concerned for his welfare, a mother is missing her son etc.

So much of it seems dodgy though. This 'Lucy Mae' girl has a travel itinerary on Instagram that would put Alan Whicker to shame
Her doing an interview with ITV but not to camera, and coming up with this GoFundMe for £30k (a large amount, with and unspecified justification) just smacks (no pun intended) of them trying to raise ransom cash.

Rumours online are that the likely scenario is that he's ripped off some drug dealers and they want their money back, she's done this in a naive attempt to raise that but not really appreciating that the spotlight of publicity needed to raise the money doesn't really facilitate a clandestine transfer of the cash to some shady underworld figures.

I'm sure the Spanish police know a lot more than they are letting on.
I don't get how "he has ripped off drug dealers and this is an attempt to raise ransom money" is a more obvious scenario than the lad has got smashed, gone back to a house for afters, not realised how far the house is away and has come a cropper in an unfamilar area"


I mean if the first one is true it will make a cracking netflix documentary.

People seem to think because he got involved in shenanighans when he was 16 and partakes in a bit of party powder that he is accringtons version of scarface smile
The ripped off drug cartel comes from this Lucy and her well travelled past, the scenario is she's a drug runner, recruited said wannabe gangster wanting to earn some money.

But he chose to snort more than he sold then lost the remainder, hence where all the speculation about the 30k being a ransom after all Lucy was the one who set the GFM up in the 1st place.

Now IF that is the case it shows how bright she is thinking a 30k GFM would not raise and suspicions then throw in his some what attractive past.

Why didn't he go back to the house where these 2 lads took him?

Why didn't he stay on the road??

His phone can ping anywhere it's been chucked doesn't mean he ll be with it,but all accounts he was wasted.

If its drugs amd the 30k Is for them does GFM do cheques or bank transfers.
but all that is pure speculation other than he was completely smashed and went back to a lads house.

People are saying that Lucy is a drug mule because she goes to different places and lives a life where she likes to party, there is a big difference in shifiting a bit of powder your took into a festival and getting involved with people that would kidnap you.

NRS

22,411 posts

204 months

Monday 24th June
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Are you part of the scheme?

WilliamWoollard

2,353 posts

196 months

Monday 24th June
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2 things that are strange for me about the kidnap story.

1, his mate not showing her face on TV, I don’t think I’ve ever seen it where the friend being interviewed wants to remain anonymous. Bit weird.

2, the “ransom” being a nice round GBP figure of £30k. Surely it would be in Euros or whatever currency Moroccan gangsters use.

It’s an interesting one, hopefully we’ll find out the truth one day.


road hog

2,566 posts

216 months

Monday 24th June
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If they been hoping for a Netflix film deal it's already been done.

https://images.app.goo.gl/vaPtYfY6uQt63HaR9


Oakey

27,631 posts

219 months

Monday 24th June
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Zetec-S said:
Maybe they can use the gofundme money to pay for an English plane to fly out and do it?
I'm pretty sure it'd be easier to configure the letters in English...

Oakey

27,631 posts

219 months

Monday 24th June
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phil-sti said:
but all that is pure speculation other than he was completely smashed and went back to a lads house.

People are saying that Lucy is a drug mule because she goes to different places and lives a life where she likes to party, there is a big difference in shifiting a bit of powder your took into a festival and getting involved with people that would kidnap you.
Where do you think the cocaine is coming from? Manifesting out of thin air?

Chicken Chaser

7,951 posts

227 months

Monday 24th June
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road hog said:
If they been hoping for a Netflix film deal it's already been done.

https://images.app.goo.gl/vaPtYfY6uQt63HaR9

It also has a whiff of White Lines with Daniel Mays

mac96

3,959 posts

146 months

Monday 24th June
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andyeds1234 said:
vaud said:
andyeds1234 said:
Indeed… Baghdad has its nice areas.
Oi Bradford has some nice areas. In fact Ilkley (pays council tax to Bradford) was the Sunday Times' best place to live winner.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-610372...

Going closer in to Bradford, Baildon and Saltaire are ok.
Ok fair enough…I’ve convinced the Mrs to switch from Baghdad to Bradford for our hols this year wink
I bet that if you meet a resident of Ilkley they would not say ' I'm from Bradford' though.