Elon Musk $41B offer for Twitter

[anonymous-user]

Gweeds said:

Dear me. Free speech means just that. Free. From consequences. It. Doesn’t. Exist.

Your use of the words woke and illiberal tell us what you actually want.

By the way. Musk ain’t the free speech supporter when it doesn’t suit him:

https://popular.info/p/musk-is-a-free-speech-absol...

No Gweeds, you are failing to grasp a very simple concept. There not much hope for you I’m afraid.

[Dagnir]

Bandit said:

Gweeds said:

Bandit said:

The fact that the woke, illiberal lefties and perpetually offended brigade don’t like Musks takeover of their pet communication platform certainly makes me happy.

This has got to be a good thing !

Woke and illiberal. That's quite the mix.

Not at all, the woke are the most illiberal group of people on the planet right now. They shout their views and cancel anyone who dares have a different perspective.

Absolutely. They have been regressive, rather than progressive for years now. It's just a facade for their authoritarian mentality.

[Gweeds]

Bandit said:

The students don’t own the University do they?
You honestly don’t know what woke and illiberal mean? Ok buddy!

And the university are free to ignore them.

And I do, But I'm not the one waving them around as an insult. So, tell us what you think they mean.

[Electro1980]

Bandit said:

Electro1980 said:

So you want to stop people saying “we don’t want your message on our stage”?

Yes! Those people that don’t want to hear it don’t have to attend do they?

So you want to censor people then and stop their free speech because you don’t agree with them.

[anonymous-user]

Electro1980 said:

So you want to censor people then and stop their free speech because you don’t agree with them.

No. Those people are free to say they disagree with a speaker and not attend. They should not be allowed to force their views & beliefs on everyone else.

[anonymous-user]

Gweeds said:

And the university are free to ignore them.

And I do, But I'm not the one waving them around as an insult. So, tell us what you think they mean.

You are just trolling now because you lost the argument.

[ZedLeg]

Bandit said:

Electro1980 said:

So you want to censor people then and stop their free speech because you don’t agree with them.

No. Those people are free to say they disagree with a speaker and not attend. They should not be allowed to force their views & beliefs on everyone else.

Protesting isn't forcing your opinion, it's also a protected right.

[Gweeds]

Bandit said:

You are just trolling now because you lost the argument.

No. I’m asking you to explain what you think words you’re using mean.

[anonymous-user]

Gweeds said:

And the university are free to ignore them.

And I do, But I'm not the one waving them around as an insult. So, tell us what you think they mean.

You are just trolling now because you lost the argument.

[anonymous-user]

ZedLeg said:

Protesting isn't forcing your opinion, it's also a protected right.

Blocking an entrance or screaming over someone so they can’t be heard is though.

[anonymous-user]

Gweeds said:

No. I’m asking you to explain what you think words you’re using mean.

No you are trolling because you lost the argument.

[105.4]

Gweeds said:

105.4 said:

I didn’t say that it was, but many others would disagree.

They'd be wrong though.

In which case, try telling that to the Twitter moderators who’ve banned / suspended several people for having the audacity to ‘mis-gender’ someone.

[bitchstewie]

Bandit said:

Blocking an entrance or screaming over someone so they can’t be heard is though.

There are laws to deal with that.

Apologies if I've missed it but I don't think you answered my earlier question.

If a university invited a holocaust denier to speak and Jewish students protested peacefully and lawfully and the university listened to them and changed their mind and uninvited the holocaust denier what's wrong with that?

[Harrison Bergeron]

Electro1980 said:

https://amp.theguardian.com/technology/2021/oct/22...

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/03/22/tech/twitter-al...

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2021/07/07/we-...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/abrambrown/2022/03/15...

https://misinforeview.hks.harvard.edu/article/the-...

This is not exactly controversial stuff that Twitter (and Facebook) algorithms have resulted in far right conspiracies and hate speech being promoted.

Why would people donate so much money to the dems only to bias their website to the opposition?

[Gweeds]

Bandit said:

No you are trolling because you lost the argument.

So you don’t know.

Thanks for confirming.

[ZedLeg]

Bandit said:

ZedLeg said:

Protesting isn't forcing your opinion, it's also a protected right.

Blocking an entrance or screaming over someone so they can’t be heard is though.

Protesting isn't forcing your opinion, it's also a protected right.

[Dagnir]

There's a lot of dishonest discussion in here and plenty of posters being deliberately obtuse. It's obvious to see. They know it and we know that they know it. A strange bickering dance.


To be expected as a coping mechanism I suppose. So used to having it all your own way and being backed up by big tech, it must be alien having an equal playing field again.


It's just a damn shame that all the damage done to society over the last 10 years can't be undone.

[Gweeds]

Dagnir said:

There's a lot of dishonest discussion in here and plenty of posters being deliberately obtuse. It's obvious to see. They know it and we know that they know it. A strange bickering dance.


To be expected as a coping mechanism I suppose. So used to having it all your own way and being backed up by big tech, it must be alien having an equal playing field again.


It's just a damn shame that all the damage done to society over the last 10 years can't be undone.

So you think any damage done has been by woke lefties on social media?

[ZedLeg]

105.4 said:

Gweeds said:

105.4 said:

I didn’t say that it was, but many others would disagree.

They'd be wrong though.

In which case, try telling that to the Twitter moderators who’ve banned / suspended several people for having the audacity to ‘mis-gender’ someone.

Deliberately misgendering someone is considered harrassment under protected characteristic laws iirc.

[ZedLeg]

Dagnir said:

There's a lot of dishonest discussion in here and plenty of posters being deliberately obtuse. It's obvious to see. They know it and we know that they know it. A strange bickering dance.


To be expected as a coping mechanism I suppose. So used to having it all your own way and being backed up by big tech, it must be alien having an equal playing field again.


It's just a damn shame that all the damage done to society over the last 10 years can't be undone.

you mean the last ten years of conservative rule here and concerted far right pressure on politics world wide largely based on social media presence? Who's really been doing the damage?