Can Sir Keir Starmer revive the Labour Party? (Vol. 2)
Discussion
President Merkin said:
Oh Carlo, you are just so credible. 
And you are so blinkered. I cannot wait until the enormous tax hikes and misery in the coming years and to see how you will try and spin this as progress. It's inevitable, just like Brexit was, that's what happens when you let daft people make big decisions when they aren't able to separate emotions and reality 
king hilarious!carlo996 said:
Blue62 said:
The rate was just under 8% in 2010, as the GFC had rocked economies across the developed world. The rate for 16-24 year olds rose to 22% by the end of 2011, a year or more after the coalition took power.
I know we are all make mistakes, but we are either dealing with a moron or an outright liar, not sure which.
When Labour left office in May 2010, unemployment had risen by 23%.It was running at 8%.I know we are all make mistakes, but we are either dealing with a moron or an outright liar, not sure which.
Utopia.
chrispmartha said:
carlo996 said:
Blue62 said:
The rate was just under 8% in 2010, as the GFC had rocked economies across the developed world. The rate for 16-24 year olds rose to 22% by the end of 2011, a year or more after the coalition took power.
I know we are all make mistakes, but we are either dealing with a moron or an outright liar, not sure which.
When Labour left office in May 2010, unemployment had risen by 23%.It was running at 8%.I know we are all make mistakes, but we are either dealing with a moron or an outright liar, not sure which.
Utopia.
Blue62 said:
You stated that unemployment was 23% in 2010, now you’re saying it had risen by that figure but provided no timeline. Do you think everyone is as stupid as you are?
Ah the personal insults begin. Always good to understand a level. It was 8%, so slightly more than it is now. Do you accept that, or was this something else we can blame the Conservatives for?
carlo996 said:
chrispmartha said:
carlo996 said:
Blue62 said:
The rate was just under 8% in 2010, as the GFC had rocked economies across the developed world. The rate for 16-24 year olds rose to 22% by the end of 2011, a year or more after the coalition took power.
I know we are all make mistakes, but we are either dealing with a moron or an outright liar, not sure which.
When Labour left office in May 2010, unemployment had risen by 23%.It was running at 8%.I know we are all make mistakes, but we are either dealing with a moron or an outright liar, not sure which.
Utopia.
https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countri...
Heres the figures and a nice little graph for you.
You’ll notice a big spike around 2008-2010.
Wonder why that would be?
You might also notice it was at its highest when the tories were in power.
Heres the figures and a nice little graph for you.
You’ll notice a big spike around 2008-2010.
Wonder why that would be?
You might also notice it was at its highest when the tories were in power.
NomduJour said:
How many Keith fans genuinely think they’ll be better off under his government? Something has to give. (Not a tacit approval of the current lot).
Keith?Anyway personally I probably won’t be better off (if you are talking money wise) but then again it’s not really all about me is it, we need the country to be better off.
Wether Labour will do that i don’t know, but I and a lot of other people can see that the tories aren’t making thr country better
carlo996 said:
And you are so blinkered. I cannot wait until the enormous tax hikes and misery in the coming years and to see how you will try and spin this as progress. It's inevitable, just like Brexit was, that's what happens when you let daft people make big decisions when they aren't able to separate emotions and reality
This is all very interesting but only in the context that you punted a made up lie & are now trying to wriggle out of it as a ahem, 'misquote'.Bit rich banging on about reality when it's demonstrably just an abstract concept to you.
Edited by President Merkin on Wednesday 6th March 11:03
chrispmartha said:
https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countri...
Heres the figures and a nice little graph for you.
You’ll notice a big spike around 2008-2010.
Wonder why that would be?
You might also notice it was at its highest when the tories were in power.
I don’t think this particular individual wants to be educated in anything, he’ll probably come back with another senseless retort but he’s laid himself bare again. Odd that you’d want to continue really. Heres the figures and a nice little graph for you.
You’ll notice a big spike around 2008-2010.
Wonder why that would be?
You might also notice it was at its highest when the tories were in power.
chrispmartha said:
https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countri...
Heres the figures and a nice little graph for you.
You’ll notice a big spike around 2008-2010.
Wonder why that would be?
You might also notice it was at its highest when the tories were in power.
Yep. And you know why that happened yes?Heres the figures and a nice little graph for you.
You’ll notice a big spike around 2008-2010.
Wonder why that would be?
You might also notice it was at its highest when the tories were in power.
carlo996 said:
chrispmartha said:
https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countri...
Heres the figures and a nice little graph for you.
You’ll notice a big spike around 2008-2010.
Wonder why that would be?
You might also notice it was at its highest when the tories were in power.
Yep. And you know why that happened yes?Heres the figures and a nice little graph for you.
You’ll notice a big spike around 2008-2010.
Wonder why that would be?
You might also notice it was at its highest when the tories were in power.
And I know you will obviously have an excuse for the high tory figure but discount the one for the Labour figure.
carlo996 said:
Neither Labour or Conservative are great options. A case of picking the least worse or making a protest vote which does absolutely nothing in reality.
It is giving me a small measure of amusement watching a few posters on this thread who have surgically implanted blue contact lenses gibbering frenziedly and nonsensically as the scale of the potential Tory election battering unfolds.
However that is more than offset by the depression of the paucity of political talent available of any colour and the realisation that whoever gets in will, in all likelihood, not make a jot of difference to the pothole lined bumpy road ahead.
NomduJour said:
chrispmartha said:
Anyway personally I probably won’t be better off (if you are talking money wise) but then again it’s not really all about me is it, we need the country to be better off
Who is it about, then? Everyone knows who won’t be worse off. It might be a better place if people dropped the im alright jack attitude.
NomduJour said:
chrispmartha said:
It’s about everyone, not my personal finances.
It might be a better place if people dropped the im alright jack attitude
Yeah. How much more tax would you like to pay? Another 2%? Another 20%? Are you happy to be poorer if your money helps others not be? It might be a better place if people dropped the im alright jack attitude
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