Rishi Sunak - Prime Minister

[mattyprice4004]

Vasco said:

A good few blinkered nutters (racists ?) on here already.
Give the guy a chance.

That can’t be a surprise for PH…

[Blib]

BOR said:

And?

Are millionaires and billionaires not entitled to political representation any more?

Richi is at least honest in his open contempt for anyone on less than seven figs. He is the Full Tory, and good luck to him.

He just needs to mug off enough low earners to keep him in power.

For everyone else, maybe you need to think hard about whether The Conservative Party really represents you.

I've just spent the weekend in the company of a high ranking official in one of the largest - by membership- Labour Party constituencies in the country.

He described the damage done to the local party by Momentum entryists who joined under Corbyn.

His view is that they know only how to protest, have no coherent plan for government and are mostly white, middle class folk.

In his words they want revolution. But, they don't know why.

Apparently, they've been drifting away since the last GE. However, they blame the stupid electorate, rather than Jeremy's brand of socialism.

Sadly, the party had not seen the end of them quite yet.

[BOR]

Yes Blib, a lot of people want to see some serious changes.

It takes some people longer to get it, but until then, let's raise a glass to Rishi, and hope he can slash taxes for high earners rather than aim for a more equitable distribution of wealth.

[StevieBee]

Caddyshack said:

Cobracc said:

Sunak has absolutely no mandate from the British electorate....he hasn't even got a mandate from Tory party members ffs!

I don’t understand this. People voted for Tory, they are in power. Sunak is now the leader…off he goes.

Exactly. You don't vote for a Prime Minister, you vote for the person you want to represent you in Parliament.

[biggles330d]

I am genuinely surprised by the amount of news coverage about Rishi Sunak being of Indian heritage / Hindu. What does it matter? It hadn't even crossed my mind but I guess for more people than I'd appreciated, it's something to make an issue of. Sad really that we even have to have the debate in this day and age.

[Blib]

BOR said:

Yes Blib, a lot of people want to see some serious changes.

It takes some people longer to get it, but until then, let's raise a glass to Rishi, and hope he can slash taxes for high earners rather than aim for a more equitable distribution of wealth.

Hey. I'm just reporting what this chap said.

IMO, many MPs of all parties have no clue about what goes on in the real world.

A degree in PPE should be an immediate bar to a career in politics.

[Wombat3]

StevieBee said:

Caddyshack said:

Cobracc said:

Sunak has absolutely no mandate from the British electorate....he hasn't even got a mandate from Tory party members ffs!

I don’t understand this. People voted for Tory, they are in power. Sunak is now the leader…off he goes.

Exactly. You don't vote for a Prime Minister, you vote for the person you want to represent you in Parliament.

You have to wonder if people who bang this drum are really so Ill informed that they actually don't understand how the system operates? (including members of the opposition front bench)!

[biggles330d]

StevieBee said:

Caddyshack said:

Cobracc said:

Sunak has absolutely no mandate from the British electorate....he hasn't even got a mandate from Tory party members ffs!

I don’t understand this. People voted for Tory, they are in power. Sunak is now the leader…off he goes.

Exactly. You don't vote for a Prime Minister, you vote for the person you want to represent you in Parliament.

Yep, exactly. All it shows is a great number of people have no idea how our parliamentary democracy actually works, including a lot who really should know. I heard Sturgeon banging on about it last night. She seems to have conveniently forgotten she was anointed into power, and didn't have a general election until the proper time came.

[Caddyshack]

biggles330d said:

I am genuinely surprised by the amount of news coverage about Rishi Sunak being of Indian heritage / Hindu. What does it matter? It hadn't even crossed my mind but I guess for more people than I'd appreciated, it's something to make an issue of. Sad really that we even have to have the debate in this day and age.

I guess it is pretty uplifting that only 75 yrs after India became independent of the U.K. we now have someone of India heritage running the country but I doubt that is why the coverage is there?

[Portofino]

Caddyshack said:

biggles330d said:

I am genuinely surprised by the amount of news coverage about Rishi Sunak being of Indian heritage / Hindu. What does it matter? It hadn't even crossed my mind but I guess for more people than I'd appreciated, it's something to make an issue of. Sad really that we even have to have the debate in this day and age.

I guess it is pretty uplifting that only 75 yrs after India became independent of the U.K. we now have someone of India heritage running the country but I doubt that is why the coverage is there?

Agree, it never even crossed my mind & it’s not like he’s just appeared on the scene from nowhere. Again the media sowing division as they do best. Just not needed.

[Wombat3]

biggles330d said:

StevieBee said:

Caddyshack said:

Cobracc said:

Sunak has absolutely no mandate from the British electorate....he hasn't even got a mandate from Tory party members ffs!

I don’t understand this. People voted for Tory, they are in power. Sunak is now the leader…off he goes.

Exactly. You don't vote for a Prime Minister, you vote for the person you want to represent you in Parliament.

Yep, exactly. All it shows is a great number of people have no idea how our parliamentary democracy actually works, including a lot who really should know. I heard Sturgeon banging on about it last night. She seems to have conveniently forgotten she was anointed into power, and didn't have a general election until the proper time came.

You have to be a special kind of thick to think that it's going to influence anyone with half a braincell or to think that we should just "add that in"

This is not the USA or France, we do not vote for an individual to lead a government. If you want to do that then you have to rebuild/ rethink the entire electoral system, the structures of government and the distribution/allocation of authority.

[dukeboy749r]

There's a special type of PH racism on display.

Evidenced by repeating what they have heard from their mates, Facebook, etc - thank goodness the 'members' of the Conservative Party did not get to vote this time.

That really would be undemocratic.

The Tory party needs to weed out the ERG members, One Nation, that sort of bks and concentrate on being the party that can be fiscally astute, smaller state and deliver on what they repeatedly tell us they can do.

[BOR]

It's going to be weird for Charles when they meet. For once, he won't be the richest man in the room.

"Nice palace your majesty, I have one like it myself"

[Wills2]

biggles330d said:

StevieBee said:

Caddyshack said:

Cobracc said:

Sunak has absolutely no mandate from the British electorate....he hasn't even got a mandate from Tory party members ffs!

I don’t understand this. People voted for Tory, they are in power. Sunak is now the leader…off he goes.

Exactly. You don't vote for a Prime Minister, you vote for the person you want to represent you in Parliament.

Yep, exactly. All it shows is a great number of people have no idea how our parliamentary democracy actually works, including a lot who really should know. I heard Sturgeon banging on about it last night. She seems to have conveniently forgotten she was anointed into power, and didn't have a general election until the proper time came.

And Labour have forgotten about Gordon's anointment as PM

[WestyCarl]

BOR said:

It's going to be weird for Charles when they meet. For once, he won't be the richest man in the room.

"Nice palace your majesty, I have one like it myself"

and downsizing when he moves into number 10

[Pitre]

I'm willing to give our new PM a chance to show what he's about and I hope for all our sakes that he's a success.

However, I'll just leave it out there that an anagram of his name is HI RISK ANUS...

[Leithen]

Wills2 said:

biggles330d said:

StevieBee said:

Caddyshack said:

Cobracc said:

Sunak has absolutely no mandate from the British electorate....he hasn't even got a mandate from Tory party members ffs!

I don’t understand this. People voted for Tory, they are in power. Sunak is now the leader…off he goes.

Exactly. You don't vote for a Prime Minister, you vote for the person you want to represent you in Parliament.

Yep, exactly. All it shows is a great number of people have no idea how our parliamentary democracy actually works, including a lot who really should know. I heard Sturgeon banging on about it last night. She seems to have conveniently forgotten she was anointed into power, and didn't have a general election until the proper time came.

And Labour have forgotten about Gordon's anointment as PM

Quite. Is anyone seriously suggesting that a party in government can only change its leader after a GE loss?

[Murph7355]

DeejRC said:

Rishi Sunak is an ideas void? Hells teeth murph, his void of ideas so far has increased the tax burden on some/a lot of us by 10%. Anymore lack of ideas and the entire middle class of the country will be bankrupt!!

The problem with Rishi is exactly the same as it was in the summer. It’s exactly the same as it was when Hunt started to implement the Rishi plan a cpl of weeks ago. It’s exactly why the TP membership rejected him.

Rishi Sunak is simply the most socialist chancellor in Tory history and in over half a century of British politics in general. Strangely enough that doesn’t impress many ppl.

I should have qualified it with "good ideas".

Anyway, where were your predictions that this would happen!

We're all fked for a decade so we might as well laugh.

[Rivenink]

Leithen said:

Wills2 said:

biggles330d said:

StevieBee said:

Caddyshack said:

Cobracc said:

Sunak has absolutely no mandate from the British electorate....he hasn't even got a mandate from Tory party members ffs!

I don’t understand this. People voted for Tory, they are in power. Sunak is now the leader…off he goes.

Exactly. You don't vote for a Prime Minister, you vote for the person you want to represent you in Parliament.

Yep, exactly. All it shows is a great number of people have no idea how our parliamentary democracy actually works, including a lot who really should know. I heard Sturgeon banging on about it last night. She seems to have conveniently forgotten she was anointed into power, and didn't have a general election until the proper time came.

And Labour have forgotten about Gordon's anointment as PM

Quite. Is anyone seriously suggesting that a party in government can only change its leader after a GE loss?

Labour campaigned the 2005 election with a promise from Blair that he would stand down during the term and Brown would take over. Brown had more of a mandate than any other PM who took over mid term.

[Murph7355]

the-photographer said:

cgt2 said:

I predicted days ago that Mordaunt would pull out and ask for the Foreign Office, that is exactly what she's asking for apparently.

I'm hoping for an ERG free cabinet

In a bold attempt to unite the party?