Missing lad in Tenerife

[2HFL]

Challo said:

Have a look on the FB group it's mental. People claiming the Spanish aren't doing anything.

The amount of armchair detectives thinking they know better than the Spanish police is mind blowing.

I don’t do Facebook, but I can just imagine.

I see nine of his mates are going out there to help now, they probably think it’ll be easy to find him, they have no idea about the area he was last seen in.

Masca is a very beautiful but absolutely scary place, you don’t walk home 11 hours from there, not without the right gear and sustenance, a map and your wits about you, none of which he’d have had.

Even the road there from Santiago del Teide (where I hiked from) is just a series of steep and narrow switchbacks.

Whether there was any foul play from the two who took him up there who knows, but he’s not getting found alive.

Google image of Masca town and gorge.

Edited by 2HFL on Thursday 20th June 20:36

[J4CKO]

phil-sti said:

J4CKO said:

Bet the lad they set upon is leading the vigil for him, or laughing his cock off….

He is in prison for car theft

Jesus, none of them worth giving a toss about then going by appearances.

[Leptons]

Richard-390a0 said:

The bit that amused me on the BBC article this morning was the friend he phoned saying "He's a sensible lad" when he'd phoned her with 1% battery remaining, which doesn't seem like the actions of a sensible person letting their battery get that low to me. Seeing the second story posted in the original post on here I now have even less sympathy...

Your phone had never run out of battery? Ignoring the other stuff that’s a stupid post to make.

[ChocolateFrog]

Proper wrong'un, no big loss.

[eldar]

Leptons said:

Your phone had never run out of battery? Ignoring the other stuff that’s a stupid post to make.

Indicated poor organisational ability.

[hidetheelephants]

peterperkins said:

Unfortunately I suspect he has got lost and died of thirst in very unhospitable terrain.

He did ring up and say he was lost and thirsty with 1% battery..

Poor bugger..

The terrain is quite similar to the greek island that presenter died on, very precipitous and given the temperatures it would be easy for someone with no water and dehydrated to get into trouble very quickly, finding them will not be easy at all.

[Whistle]

We drove down the road to Masca last October, it certainly has a fair few switch backs.

[2HFL]

hidetheelephants said:

peterperkins said:

Unfortunately I suspect he has got lost and died of thirst in very unhospitable terrain.

He did ring up and say he was lost and thirsty with 1% battery..

Poor bugger..

The terrain is quite similar to the greek island that presenter died on, very precipitous and given the temperatures it would be easy for someone with no water and dehydrated to get into trouble very quickly, finding them will not be easy at all.

The temperatures would have been nothing like Greece.

Masca ranges from mid teens to early 20’s currently, but can actually get very cool very quickly when the clouds descend (which occurs regularly) and it can blow an absolute hooley too.

You would not want to be lost up there in those conditions, especially as the gorge would have been closed on Monday with no one else around, that’s if he went that way rather than back down to the road to Santiago.

Edited by 2HFL on Thursday 20th June 21:35

[phil-sti]

wc98 said:

phil-sti said:

J4CKO said:

Bet the lad they set upon is leading the vigil for him, or laughing his cock off….

He is in prison for car theft

I'm trying to get my head round him going to jail for car theft (good result) and this lad and his mates not going to jail for nearly killing the car thief with machetes. I am all for rehabilitation, lots of people do stupid things when they are young but making a conscious decision to hit someone with a machete is getting pretty far down the road of no return, imo.

Age at the time of the offence from what I remember it took a while for them to come to court. Where as the victim stole numerous cars and then led the police on a 100mph chase through residential areas.

[mikey_b]

It's a shame he didn't use that 1% battery to send a message to his mum saying 'call help now!!' with his location. iMessage and WhatsApp can both send GPS locations with literally two clicks, it's the same as sending a photo.

I would hope, if I ever find myself in such a situation, that I'd have the presence of mind to do that. And then stay put, of course, so help can find me when it comes.

[ChocolateFrog]

I've not actually been up to that corner of Tenerife. Done most of the rest in car and on bike.

Looks beautiful.

[wc98]

phil-sti said:

Age at the time of the offence from what I remember it took a while for them to come to court. Where as the victim stole numerous cars and then led the police on a 100mph chase through residential areas.

I am happy the car thief (even more so reading that) went to jail. I am shocked that people hitting someone, even a car thief, with machetes didn't also end up in jail.

[ninepoint2]

ChocolateFrog said:

Proper wrong'un, no big loss.

I would tend to agree, looks like Darwin at work again probably

[ALawson]

ninepoint2 said:

I would tend to agree, looks like Darwin at work again probably

It’s an amazing route down and back up on a push bike or circle round the coast and back up. By all accounts one of Lance Armstrong’s favorities.

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[Leptons]

eldar said:

Indicated poor organisational ability.

What so that’s your benchmark of someone having poor organisational ability. Phone battery going flat in the middle of nowhere?

[Quhet]

Leptons said:

eldar said:

Indicated poor organisational ability.

What so that’s your benchmark of someone having poor organisational ability. Phone battery going flat in the middle of nowhere?

Everything else aside, the lad is 19 and was out on the lash. Bit harsh slating him for his phone battery going flat!

[eldar]

Leptons said:

eldar said:

Indicated poor organisational ability.

What so that’s your benchmark of someone having poor organisational ability. Phone battery going flat in the middle of nowhere?

Going ill prepared into the middle of nowhere - no phone, water, indication your destination, sun protection. Seems less than organised to me. Kind of taking part in a gunfight armed with a banana

[mikey_b]

eldar said:

Leptons said:

eldar said:

Indicated poor organisational ability.

What so that’s your benchmark of someone having poor organisational ability. Phone battery going flat in the middle of nowhere?

Going ill prepared into the middle of nowhere - no phone, water, indication your destination, sun protection. Seems less than organised to me. Kind of taking part in a gunfight armed with a banana

He'd spent the previous few hours (or more) at a rave. FFS, he's a teenager on a lads holiday, not a special forces soldier going behind enemy lines.

[g4ry13]

The GoFundMe is over £23k now. Do people actually know what they're donating for when they go to these pages?

It's apparently a rescue fund but there have been helicopters and drones thrown at the search so i'm not sure lack of funds is an issue.

[2HFL]

g4ry13 said:

The GoFundMe is over £23k now. Do people actually know what they're donating for when they go to these pages?

It's apparently a rescue fund but there have been helicopters and drones thrown at the search so i'm not sure lack of funds is an issue.

I also thought this about the Go Fund Me….

What are people even donating towards, the local police and search and rescue don’t need paying.

I’d want to know exactly where that cash is going.