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Dare2Fail said:

If I am wrong and you are right then hopefully our leaders will take your advice. If that happens then I am sure we will all be looking forward to the black and white film that Steven Spielberg makes about the genocide in about 20 years time.

Im not saying it is right.

I do resent the fact that people should make you feel guilt for these feelings tough. I feel they are justified. I knew a guy who was killed in Sept 11 attacks. Even if I did not then I will still feel this way.

It is not people like me who are starting the hatred. I did not grow up with racism or have any desire to feel this way. I feel like it has been forced upon me by these scum. It is getting really bad now and I hope that the recession can highlight these issues and cause action.

We vote. If the people make their voices heard then the conservatives and labour will try to attract voters with their policy. Voting for a joke like the BNP will never really take off.

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Dare2Fail said:

plasticpusher said:

Dare2Fail said:

If I am wrong and you are right then hopefully our leaders will take your advice. If that happens then I am sure we will all be looking forward to the black and white film that Steven Spielberg makes about the genocide in about 20 years time.

Im not saying it is right.

I do resent the fact that people should make you feel guilt for these feelings tough. I feel they are justified. I knew a guy who was killed in Sept 11 attacks. Even if I did not then I will still feel this way.

Just to make sure I am clear on this, it is perfectly fine to treat the 2 million Muslims in the UK as terrorists because you knew someone who was tragically killed by terrorists on Sept 11th?

No. To make the quote full:

plasticpusher said:

It is not people like me who are starting the hatred. I did not grow up with racism or have any desire to feel this way. I feel like it has been forced upon me by these scum. It is getting really bad now and I hope that the recession can highlight these issues and cause action.

We vote. If the people make their voices heard then the conservatives and labour will try to attract voters with their policy. Voting for a joke like the BNP will never really take off.

It is right to approach the however many million muslims in the UK as potential extremists. Not just because I knew somebody who was murdered by them.

Because it is the truth.

There will be a majority who will never contemplate it and are disgusted by their actions. How would you separate them?

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Dare2Fail said:

You can't seperate them. It's not that simple. But you must also realise that by taking the action you propose you are actually creating the thing you fear the most. If you oppress people they will eventually rise up, especially when there is no penalty for rising up. If you treat people like they are terrorists then what do they have to lose by trying to fight against the oppression using acts of terrorism.

What if it was turned around? What if you were one of the innocent Muslims? How would you react to being treated like one of the minority of terrorists who also happen to be Muslim?

The funny thing that you don't seem to notice (or don't seem to care about) is that you are doing EXACTLY what the terrorists want. You are helping swell their numbers by directing your hatred for their actions at 'Muslims'.

It is a deep issue.

And you are doing what the terrorists want.

But it gets to a point where you have to stop looking away.

I think that the only answer is a sophisticated, anti muslim, UK terrorism organization. It will happen soon. Then this will cause them to attack us. Then the government will get involved. Then it is time to colonize a eradicate.

Just my vision. Nothing will every really happen. We will continue to get fked up the ass and have slimy gutless leaders.

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Dare2Fail said:

What if you were one of the innocent Muslims?

Then I would feel regret for the actions of people who shared the same faith. And understand why western people will not accept it.

I would leave Islam or leave the West,

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Dare2Fail said:

The people commiting the acts of terrorism are not true Muslims. They twist the faith into something unrecognisable to justify their acts. If I was a Muslim there is NO way I would let the terrorists take my faith from me.

History and Human Nature has taught us that life is not always fair.

FACT.

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DBRacingGod said:

Classic deductively fallacious argument from the far right (and most thickos for that matter):

Perhaps you are right. But the majority of ''thickos'' may turn into more educated followers.

This may then cause the major parties to certain adopt popular right wing views.

Muslims currently make up less than 3%. If parties want to get elected then it makes sense to target the 97%, or whatever % it is by then.

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GPSS said:

TomE said:

Is it just me or does every second thread in P&P now revolve around immigrants and Muslims?

I believe all these type of threads are alluding to the same emotion, which is that there are a significant number of people in Britain who are want rid of the Muslim population and immigration stopped.

Only alluding to people surrounded by people who hold back their views.

Edited by plasticpusher on Saturday 14th March 19:24

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ln1234 said:

plasticpusher said:

I think that the only answer is a sophisticated, anti muslim, UK terrorism organization. It will happen soon. Then this will cause them to attack us. Then the government will get involved. Then it is time to colonize a eradicate.

Forget the BNP. Combat 18 is more up your street.

Im not saying I want to do it.

Just that it going to happen on a large scale.