46th President of the United States, Joe Biden
Discussion
Mortarboard said:
thatsprettyshady said:
Pneumothorax said he looked at Trump and couldn’t see anything obviously wrong with him.
Missed the narcolepsy then?M.
If it helps, I think Trumps conditions are all psychological but (personal opinion) not all of them are neccessarily incompatible with being president of the USA. It's well known that some of the best leaders are people who are absolute psychopaths, but it would of course depend to what degree this sort of thing manifests.
I've always maintained that, to me, diagnosing someone off the TV isn't 100% reliable. Pneumothorax and one other person chimed in and said you absolutely can. I would prefer that a non-partisan, independant doctor gave him a full check up with the results released but I can see why that's not happening.
There is obviously "something" wrong with Biden but what it is I do not know, we'll find out eventually.
Edited by thatsprettyshady on Saturday 6th July 14:26
paulguitar said:
Wheelspinning said:
Was that during the 'trial' that the most likely reasons have already been discussed?
Or is there other examples outwith the courtroom that you want to offer up?
Why have you put trial in inverted commas? Or is there other examples outwith the courtroom that you want to offer up?
I have offered my view of the Stormsy 'trial', hence the inverted commas.
Mortarboard said:
Wheelspinning said:
Mortarboard said:
thatsprettyshady said:
Pneumothorax said he looked at Trump and couldn’t see anything obviously wrong with him.
Missed the narcolepsy then?M.
Or is there other examples outwith the courtroom that you want to offer up?
Amd his propensity for "naps" is also well known.
Just as much "evidence" for trumps narcolepsy as bidens "parkinsons"
M.
Regards notes etc, I tend to keep it brief, as no point in 1000 words if you can say it clearly in 100.
Wheelspinning said:
I can't help but notice that you borrow Mrs Guitars professional trait of answering questions with a question.
I have offered my view of the Stormsy 'trial', hence the inverted commas.
Haven’t seen any of your comments on it, or can’t remember them. I have offered my view of the Stormsy 'trial', hence the inverted commas.
Assume as a trump fan you thought it was all very unfair.
Wheelspinning said:
He was in his 70's. Power naps are the norm especially if your in a position of power.
Regards notes etc, I tend to keep it brief, as no point in 1000 words if you can say it clearly in 100.
Very charitable of you. The concern was trump was incapable of reading anything longer than bullet points.Regards notes etc, I tend to keep it brief, as no point in 1000 words if you can say it clearly in 100.
Would you take a "power nap" in the middle of a 32 count, criminal trial?
M.
Last night's interview didn't go too well.
'Exhausted,' 'bad episode': Biden doubles down on debate explanations in ABC News exclusive - https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/exhausted-bad-epis...
"Yeah, look. The whole way I prepared, nobody's fault, mine. Nobody's fault but mine. I-- I prepared what I usually would do sittin' down as I did come back with foreign leaders or National Security Council for explicit detail. And I realized-- partway through that, you know, all-- I get quoted the New York Times had me down, ten points before the debate, nine now, or whatever the hell it is. The fact of the matter is, what I looked at is that he also lied 28 times. I couldn't-- I mean, the way the debate ran, not-- my fault, nobody else's fault, no one else's fault."
'Exhausted,' 'bad episode': Biden doubles down on debate explanations in ABC News exclusive - https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/exhausted-bad-epis...
"Yeah, look. The whole way I prepared, nobody's fault, mine. Nobody's fault but mine. I-- I prepared what I usually would do sittin' down as I did come back with foreign leaders or National Security Council for explicit detail. And I realized-- partway through that, you know, all-- I get quoted the New York Times had me down, ten points before the debate, nine now, or whatever the hell it is. The fact of the matter is, what I looked at is that he also lied 28 times. I couldn't-- I mean, the way the debate ran, not-- my fault, nobody else's fault, no one else's fault."
Skeptisk said:
Wheelspinning said:
A court case that went on for weeks about 'hush money' whereby the 2 star witnesses were a stripper/hooker porn star, and a convicted felon who was jailed for lying and even admitted on the stand stealing from Trump who was his employer at the time, held in New York where Trump is perhaps least popular.
Glossing over the fact that 'hush money' payments happen every day of the week and are usually viewed as a misdemeanor, can you please link other massive court cases based on hush money?
For it an all of the other cases to be raised in the run up to the election, regardless of the charges, Stevie Wonder could see it as being 'electoral interference'.
It seemed to have backfired though, as it apears as support for Trump increased on the back of it.
It isn’t illegal to make hush payments and he wasn’t tried and convicted for making such payments. So your point? (Clearly you don’t have one as you know nothing about the court case and are just spouting nonsense and lies like a true Trump fan boy).Glossing over the fact that 'hush money' payments happen every day of the week and are usually viewed as a misdemeanor, can you please link other massive court cases based on hush money?
For it an all of the other cases to be raised in the run up to the election, regardless of the charges, Stevie Wonder could see it as being 'electoral interference'.
It seemed to have backfired though, as it apears as support for Trump increased on the back of it.
Edited by Wheelspinning on Saturday 6th July 12:19
I don’t have a lot of personal experience with dementia or mental decline but I’ve heard that often the person who has the decline doesn’t notice (or downplays is) and it is rather their family and friends. If that is the case with Biden then those around him need to do something. Another reason for stopping geriatrics becoming Presidents. There is a minimum age for senators and there should be a maximum age for Presidents - something like 65.
It is nuts that the two candidates are older than Clinton who was the 42nd President.
It is nuts that the two candidates are older than Clinton who was the 42nd President.
Skeptisk said:
I don’t have a lot of personal experience with dementia or mental decline but I’ve heard that often the person who has the decline doesn’t notice (or downplays is) and it is rather their family and friends. If that is the case with Biden then those around him need to do something. Another reason for stopping geriatrics becoming Presidents. There is a minimum age for senators and there should be a maximum age for Presidents - something like 65.
It is nuts that the two candidates are older than Clinton who was the 42nd President.
Clinton is the 3rd youngest US president. Only Kennedy and Theodore Roosevelt from 1858 were younger. To add some perspective, Roosevelt at 42 on inauguration was 2 years over the average life expectancy for a male in the mid 19th century in the US, so could easily be considered very old. It is nuts that the two candidates are older than Clinton who was the 42nd President.
Clinton was only 11 years over the minimum age to be President at inauguration.
LF5335 said:
Skeptisk said:
I don’t have a lot of personal experience with dementia or mental decline but I’ve heard that often the person who has the decline doesn’t notice (or downplays is) and it is rather their family and friends. If that is the case with Biden then those around him need to do something. Another reason for stopping geriatrics becoming Presidents. There is a minimum age for senators and there should be a maximum age for Presidents - something like 65.
It is nuts that the two candidates are older than Clinton who was the 42nd President.
Clinton is the 3rd youngest US president. Only Kennedy and Theodore Roosevelt from 1858 were younger. To add some perspective, Roosevelt at 42 on inauguration was 2 years over the average life expectancy for a male in the mid 19th century in the US, so could easily be considered very old. It is nuts that the two candidates are older than Clinton who was the 42nd President.
Clinton was only 11 years over the minimum age to be President at inauguration.
From the list you can see that the average lifespan of past presidents (excluding those assassinated) was around 70 with the second president making it past 90.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_presidents_o...
Edited by Skeptisk on Saturday 6th July 16:58
thatsprettyshady said:
Last night's interview didn't go too well.
'Exhausted,' 'bad episode': Biden doubles down on debate explanations in ABC News exclusive - https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/exhausted-bad-epis...
"Yeah, look. The whole way I prepared, nobody's fault, mine. Nobody's fault but mine. I-- I prepared what I usually would do sittin' down as I did come back with foreign leaders or National Security Council for explicit detail. And I realized-- partway through that, you know, all-- I get quoted the New York Times had me down, ten points before the debate, nine now, or whatever the hell it is. The fact of the matter is, what I looked at is that he also lied 28 times. I couldn't-- I mean, the way the debate ran, not-- my fault, nobody else's fault, no one else's fault."
Yep'Exhausted,' 'bad episode': Biden doubles down on debate explanations in ABC News exclusive - https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/exhausted-bad-epis...
"Yeah, look. The whole way I prepared, nobody's fault, mine. Nobody's fault but mine. I-- I prepared what I usually would do sittin' down as I did come back with foreign leaders or National Security Council for explicit detail. And I realized-- partway through that, you know, all-- I get quoted the New York Times had me down, ten points before the debate, nine now, or whatever the hell it is. The fact of the matter is, what I looked at is that he also lied 28 times. I couldn't-- I mean, the way the debate ran, not-- my fault, nobody else's fault, no one else's fault."
It is likely that in the near future someone is going to stand up and suggest that this President is not wearing any clothes, and then everyone else is going suddenly notice it.
That interview is probably him at his best/baseline and again, he has all of the hallmarks of a Parkinsonian syndrome. It sounds like it and it looks like it.
If Trump walked into my consultation room, I would immediately be able to think about things that he might have wrong with him and then I would examine him. If it makes you happy LF, I am happy to speculate on what they might be.
If Biden was sitting in my waiting room I'd be thinking "This bloke needs to see a neurologist" as soon as I clapped eyes on him .
Given his recent appearances I would think that he would not "pass" a mini mental state test, it's a crude but effective tool used to test for cognitive impairment.
The chap should be having care and support, not being ridiculed all over the world.
paulguitar said:
Wheelspinning said:
I can't help but notice that you borrow Mrs Guitars professional trait of answering questions with a question.
I have offered my view of the Stormsy 'trial', hence the inverted commas.
Haven’t seen any of your comments on it, or can’t remember them. I have offered my view of the Stormsy 'trial', hence the inverted commas.
Assume as a trump fan you thought it was all very unfair.
Honestly; you need to try harder.
Wheelspinning said:
dvs_dave said:
Would you vote for trump? Hypothetically speaking, of course.
Hypothetically, if I was allowed to vote and it was between Trump and Biden, yes, it would be Trump.Who knows who is making the descions for Biden...but their name sure as hell isn't on the ballot card.
Wheelspinning said:
dvs_dave said:
Would you vote for trump? Hypothetically speaking, of course.
Hypothetically, if I was allowed to vote and it was between Trump and Biden, yes, it would be Trump.Who knows who is making the descions for Biden...but their name sure as hell isn't on the ballot card.
BBC radio 4 presenter calls on Biden to murder Trump
https://wltreport.com/2024/07/02/bbc-presenter-cal...
https://wltreport.com/2024/07/02/bbc-presenter-cal...
thatsprettyshady said:
BBC radio 4 presenter calls on Biden to murder Trump
https://wltreport.com/2024/07/02/bbc-presenter-cal...
This is pretty old news. He pretty obviously wasn't calling on anyone to murder Trump imo. He was making an acerbic comment highlighting what he believes was the absurdity of the Supreme Court ruling. He himself called it satire. Probably not some of his best work though.https://wltreport.com/2024/07/02/bbc-presenter-cal...
EddieSteadyGo said:
thatsprettyshady said:
BBC radio 4 presenter calls on Biden to murder Trump
https://wltreport.com/2024/07/02/bbc-presenter-cal...
This is pretty old news. He pretty obviously wasn't calling on anyone to murder Trump imo. He was making an acerbic comment highlighting what he believes was the absurdity of the Supreme Court ruling. He himself called it satire. Probably not some of his best work though.https://wltreport.com/2024/07/02/bbc-presenter-cal...
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