46th President of the United States, Joe Biden

46th President of the United States, Joe Biden

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hidetheelephants

30,136 posts

208 months

Thursday 4th July 2024
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It dragged on most of Tuesday on the Trump thread.

thatsprettyshady

4,572 posts

180 months

Thursday 4th July 2024
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hidetheelephants said:
It dragged on most of Tuesday on the Trump thread.
Is this the one where posters were asserting that citizens in a democracy are only allowed to protest for things that they agree with?


LF5335

7,443 posts

58 months

Thursday 4th July 2024
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thatsprettyshady said:
Is this the one where posters were asserting that citizens in a democracy are only allowed to protest for things that they agree with?
No it’s the one where you tied yourself in knots trying to defend white supremacists.

thatsprettyshady

4,572 posts

180 months

Thursday 4th July 2024
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LF5335 said:
thatsprettyshady said:
Is this the one where posters were asserting that citizens in a democracy are only allowed to protest for things that they agree with?
No it’s the one where you tied yourself in knots trying to defend white supremacists.
I didn't tie myself in knots at all, I was supporting the right of people to (peacefully) protest whatever they see fit, you were the one saying that people somehow are not allowed to protest things that "cross a line" - do you see how limiting peoples right to protest could be problematic?

LF5335

7,443 posts

58 months

Thursday 4th July 2024
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thatsprettyshady said:
I didn't tie myself in knots at all, I was supporting the right of people to (peacefully) protest whatever they see fit, you were the one saying that people somehow are not allowed to protest things that "cross a line" - do you see how limiting peoples right to protest could be problematic?
I have you two examples of things to show that there is a line. You ignored that. You were in knots

thatsprettyshady

4,572 posts

180 months

Thursday 4th July 2024
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LF5335 said:
I have you two examples of things to show that there is a line. You ignored that. You were in knots
No, there is no line to what people should be allowed to peacefully protest, this is what i was trying to explain but you were not understanding.

Another poster rightly pointed out that if there was a "line" we wouldn't have the LGBT rights we have now because back then some stuffy types would have banned it for being indecent or whatever.

You of course extrapolated it out to "defending white supremacists" but this isn't what was happening, I think you were the one tying yourself in knots trying to pin that on me.

Edited by thatsprettyshady on Thursday 4th July 13:36

mko9

2,764 posts

227 months

Thursday 4th July 2024
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First Amendment to the US Constitution

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

There is no line.

LF5335

7,443 posts

58 months

Thursday 4th July 2024
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thatsprettyshady said:
No, there is no line to what people should be allowed to peacefully protest, this is what i was trying to explain but you were not understanding.

Another poster rightly pointed out that if there was a "line" we wouldn't have the LGBT rights we have now because back then some stuffy types would have banned it for being indecent or whatever.

You of course extrapolated it out to "defending white supremacists" but this isn't what was happening, I think you were the one tying yourself in knots trying to pin that on me.

Edited by thatsprettyshady on Thursday 4th July 13:36
People’s sexuality is not comparable to racism, white supremacy or the examples I gave you. If you truly believe that everyone should be free to protest anything then defend murderers protesting their right or paedos demanding the right to pursue it.

thatsprettyshady

4,572 posts

180 months

Thursday 4th July 2024
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LF5335 said:
People’s sexuality is not comparable to racism, white supremacy or the examples I gave you. If you truly believe that everyone should be free to protest anything then defend murderers protesting their right or paedos demanding the right to pursue it.
Yes, people should be free to protest anything they like - I don't need to agree with what they are protesting about.

Mortarboard

9,674 posts

70 months

Thursday 4th July 2024
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And yet fir all pneumothorax' insistence the diagnosis is obvious,he still hasn't stated what obvious symptoms lead to it, as opposed to occans razor scenario of "old man with a known speech impediment"

M.

thatsprettyshady

4,572 posts

180 months

Thursday 4th July 2024
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Mortarboard said:
And yet fir all pneumothorax' insistence the diagnosis is obvious,he still hasn't stated what obvious symptoms lead to it, as opposed to occans razor scenario of "old man with a known speech impediment"

M.
I believe the bottom of this page (assuming your on kids page sizes, like me) is the closest he came to explaining why he thinks what he thinks. Lack of muscle response in his face and speech issues.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

I don't think any diagnosis given from TV pictures can be relied on too much, but to me it's interesting that a doctor chimed in and was so certain, you would think more well known physicians would have done the same.


Mortarboard

9,674 posts

70 months

Thursday 4th July 2024
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thatsprettyshady said:
I believe the bottom of this page (assuming your on kids page sizes, like me) is the closest he came to explaining why he thinks what he thinks. Lack of muscle response in his face and speech issues.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

I don't think any diagnosis given from TV pictures can be relied on too much, but to me it's interesting that a doctor chimed in and was so certain, you would think more well known physicians would have done the same.
I read that. If that's his "obvious" symptoms, he's no doctor. Or med student. Or aware that jb has a speech impediment.

He made an extraordinary claim, that requires extraordinary proof.

M.

thatsprettyshady

4,572 posts

180 months

Thursday 4th July 2024
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Biden tells governors he got a medical checkup - https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/03/biden-tel...


vetrof

2,705 posts

188 months

Thursday 4th July 2024
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Mortarboard said:
And also the fact that for old jb to have Parkinson, two highly improbable things would also have to be true.

M.
Maybe one highly likely thing has happened. They've been telling porkies. Is it beyond your imagination that 'your' side might actually be capable of deceit?

PurplePenguin

3,277 posts

48 months

Thursday 4th July 2024
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thatsprettyshady said:
Biden tells governors he got a medical checkup - https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/03/biden-tel...
I’m fine - nothing to see here….

BikeBikeBIke

11,621 posts

130 months

Thursday 4th July 2024
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Mortarboard said:
thatsprettyshady said:
I believe the bottom of this page (assuming your on kids page sizes, like me) is the closest he came to explaining why he thinks what he thinks. Lack of muscle response in his face and speech issues.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

I don't think any diagnosis given from TV pictures can be relied on too much, but to me it's interesting that a doctor chimed in and was so certain, you would think more well known physicians would have done the same.
I read that. If that's his "obvious" symptoms, he's no doctor. Or med student. Or aware that jb has a speech impediment.

He made an extraordinary claim, that requires extraordinary proof.

M.
I haven't read the thread but my spider sense tells you're discussing whether parkinsons can be diagnosed remotely and it absolutely can.

My S-I-L is a Physio and she says she can walk around the supermarket and literally point at the people with Parkinsons. Billy Connelly was spotted by a guy at a gig and diagnosed by the way he walked. There's a "robotic" walk which is unmistakable, staring eyes, a kind of suprised look. It's unmistakable.

I've no idea if Biden shows those features.

Bonefish Blues

31,743 posts

238 months

Thursday 4th July 2024
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PurplePenguin said:
thatsprettyshady said:
Biden tells governors he got a medical checkup - https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/03/biden-tel...
I’m fine - nothing to see here….
I'm reminded of the famous words of Ms Rice-Davies.

pinchmeimdreamin

10,390 posts

233 months

Thursday 4th July 2024
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PurplePenguin said:
thatsprettyshady said:
Biden tells governors he got a medical checkup - https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/03/biden-tel...
I’m fine - nothing to see here….
Apparently he’s the healthiest president ever and may live to be 200 wink

Mortarboard

9,674 posts

70 months

Thursday 4th July 2024
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vetrof said:
Maybe one highly likely thing has happened. They've been telling porkies. Is it beyond your imagination that 'your' side might actually be capable of deceit?
And the RNC dont know?

Wanna buy a bridge? Or the eiffel tower?

You seriously think that a big money donor wouldn't have a doctor give them an option before filling over literally millions?

Chinny reckon.

M.

Mortarboard

9,674 posts

70 months

Thursday 4th July 2024
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BikeBikeBIke said:
I haven't read the thread but my spider sense tells you're discussing whether parkinsons can be diagnosed remotely and it absolutely can.

My S-I-L is a Physio and she says she can walk around the supermarket and literally point at the people with Parkinsons. Billy Connelly was spotted by a guy at a gig and diagnosed by the way he walked. There's a "robotic" walk which is unmistakable, staring eyes, a kind of suprised look. It's unmistakable.

I've no idea if Biden shows those features.
It may be.

But apparently all pneumonia bases his/hers on was "face and soeach"

An old man with a speech impediment. Occams razor.
Hearing hoofbeats and seeing unicorns. Despite all indications to the contrary

Then again, maybe pnemo is "house md", and some sort of savant that can see things on TV that doctors doing examinations cant....

M.