46th President of the United States, Joe Biden

[Rocket.]

pinchmeimdreamin said:

Rocket. said:

OK badly put I meant funding wars but you knew that when you wrote your reply.

No I’m also lost which wars they are Funding,
Do you mean supplying end of life weapons to third parties which would have been replaced anyway and cost a tiny fraction of their Military Budget ?

https://usafacts.org/articles/how-much-money-has-the-us-given-ukraine-since-russias-invasion/

You are being deliberately obtuse or stupid.

Ok you can argue its a fraction of their budget but each time they want to commit more money it becomes more of an issue internally unless they see results for it.

[Rocket.]

hidetheelephants said:

The US could pay for both sides of the war without breaking sweat; their economy is vast.

Really for how long? 6 months, a year, 3 years?

At what cost? The debt is balloning, the interest on payable on the debt will overtake the annual military budget soon I read. It's already becoming an issue with the electorate, a lot want it finished and Trump is openly saying we have an ocean between us and Ukraine I.e. its not our war. I am not saying he's right BTW.

[thatsprettyshady]

BBC radio 4 presenter calls on Biden to murder Trump

https://wltreport.com/2024/07/02/bbc-presenter-cal...

[mko9]

pinchmeimdreamin said:

Rocket. said:

If Trump can actually run and Dems stick with Biden they are finished imo. I still think there will be a switch, it might be a smart move to delay it. Time will tell. I can't beleive I am saying it but a bit of me would like to see Trump back in, nothing Biden has done has impressed and before anyone says Economy is booming their debt is growing 1 trillion dollars every 100 days, immigration exploded and they are fighting wars they can't afford, something have to give.

Which wars are the US Fighting ?

Helping fund Ukraine
Funding Israel
Still in Iraq
Still in Syria
Fighting IS/AQIM/Boko Haram/Al Shabab/etc across Africa

Nothing really hot, and none of it is new and exciting, so you don't hear about it in the press. When was the last time you saw anything about Israel and HAMAS, let alone the Syrian civil war or Islamic State?

[Wheelspinning]

As I posted previously, Biden has stated he shall not step down or consider a replacement.

The award ceremony for civil servants that he attended again gave a very clear indication that he has deteriorated significantly, and the next debate shall be the same if not worse.

Cannot envision why Trump shall not be the 47th POTUS with this gift.

[LF5335]

mko9 said:

Helping fund Ukraine
Funding Israel
Still in Iraq
Still in Syria
Fighting IS/AQIM/Boko Haram/Al Shabab/etc across Africa

Nothing really hot, and none of it is new and exciting, so you don't hear about it in the press. When was the last time you saw anything about Israel and HAMAS, let alone the Syrian civil war or Islamic State?

Ukraine. Would you rather Russia claimed it and then likely set it sights on the Baltic States?
Israel. Trump is more in. Etanyahu’s pocket than anyone
Iraq / Syria / IS etc. all were happening when Trump was there and didn’t end anything there.

[Bonefish Blues]

Thought-provoking commentary from Katty and Mooch on TRiP US this week. Well worth a listen, they're both hugely well-connected.

[pneumothorax]

thatsprettyshady said:

Ah, here we go:

Yep, because Trump doesn't have an obvious problem (medically) but Biden does, and it is obvious by looking at him (as most neurological conditions are)

[LF5335]

pneumothorax said:

Yep, because Trump doesn't have an obvious problem (medically) but Biden does, and it is obvious by looking at him (as most neurological conditions are)

So someone who drags their left leg noticeably at times, often slurs their words, struggles to read off a teleprompter and can’t hold a train of thought is OK. Whereas someone who walks with a slow gait at times and sometimes slurs their words is suffering neurologically.

But you’re totally apolitical and not making a point at all

[Rusty Old-Banger]

I don't know why people carry on responding to this LF clown who could start an argument in an empty room. He's been proven wrong before, but will not accept anything other than his own opinion. If we all ignore him, he will go away. Maybe.

[Challo]

Wheelspinning said:

As I posted previously, Biden has stated he shall not step down or consider a replacement.

The award ceremony for civil servants that he attended again gave a very clear indication that he has deteriorated significantly, and the next debate shall be the same if not worse.

Cannot envision why Trump shall not be the 47th POTUS with this gift.

Lets hope Trump doesn't make it either. The US is fked with him incharge.

[paulguitar]

LF5335 said:

pneumothorax said:

Yep, because Trump doesn't have an obvious problem (medically) but Biden does, and it is obvious by looking at him (as most neurological conditions are)

So someone who drags their left leg noticeably at times, often slurs their words, struggles to read off a teleprompter and can’t hold a train of thought is OK. Whereas someone who walks with a slow gait at times and sometimes slurs their words is suffering neurologically.

But you’re totally apolitical and not making a point at all

Observations have been made that trump's posture could be a sign of frontotemporal dementia, but it has also been suggested that this could be down to the lifts he wears in his shoes to make him appear taller. He certainly has issues with garbled speech and going off on unfathomable tangents and rants. His strange way of talking seems to almost lull listeners into a trance. Sometimes it's worth reading what he's had to say, rather than listening to it. Take this example when he was boasting about the crowd size one of his rallies:




That's from six years ago, he's declined since then.





But as I've mentioned previously, conversations about this with Mrs (Dr) Guitar, suggest that his main areas of concern are mental issues, ie a raft of personality disorders.

[Roderick Spode]

paulguitar said:

But as I've mentioned previously, conversations about this with Mrs (Dr) Guitar, suggest that his main areas of concern are mental issues, ie a raft of personality disorders.

It makes me when you do this. I remember you called out pneumothorax when he postulated a visual diagnosis on Biden's infirmities with "are you a doctor..." (answer - yes) and still refused to accept his opinion. Yet you present Mrs (Dr) Guitar as an expert witness to Trump's decrepitude that should be given credence.

LF goes further and has convinced themselves that pneumothorax is some kind of Trump shill gunning for Biden, it's hilarious.

Perhaps as a trained psychologist the good doctor could give us a precis on Cognitive Dissonance.

[paulguitar]

Roderick Spode said:

paulguitar said:

But as I've mentioned previously, conversations about this with Mrs (Dr) Guitar, suggest that his main areas of concern are mental issues, ie a raft of personality disorders.

It makes me when you do this. I remember you called out pneumothorax when he postulated a visual diagnosis on Biden's infirmities with "are you a doctor..." (answer - yes) and still refused to accept his opinion. Yet you present Mrs (Dr) Guitar as an expert witness to Trump's decrepitude that should be given credence.

LF goes further and has convinced themselves that pneumothorax is some kind of Trump shill gunning for Biden, it's hilarious.

Perhaps as a trained psychologist the good doctor could give us a precis on Cognitive Dissonance.

Well, I didn't do it until we sort of accepted that as a motoring forum, we could calm down and ignore the Goldwater rule.

I did not refuse to accept pneumothorax's opinion.

[thatsprettyshady]

Roderick Spode said:

paulguitar said:

But as I've mentioned previously, conversations about this with Mrs (Dr) Guitar, suggest that his main areas of concern are mental issues, ie a raft of personality disorders.

It makes me when you do this. I remember you called out pneumothorax when he postulated a visual diagnosis on Biden's infirmities with "are you a doctor..." (answer - yes) and still refused to accept his opinion. Yet you present Mrs (Dr) Guitar as an expert witness to Trump's decrepitude that should be given credence.

LF goes further and has convinced themselves that pneumothorax is some kind of Trump shill gunning for Biden, it's hilarious.

Perhaps as a trained psychologist the good doctor could give us a precis on Cognitive Dissonance.

All three threads are littered with many such examples.

My main issue with all of them (the threads) is that when Biden/Biden fans do the same thing as Trump they are somehow always good and doing it in the interests of the people so should be applauded, but when Trump does something it’s always either terrible, an abuse of power or it’s extrapolated out to worse case scenario where trump is LiTeRaLlY hItLeR.

It’s usually the same rhetoric and actions from both, dressed up differently.

[paulguitar]

thatsprettyshady said:

All three threads are littered with many such examples.

My main issue with all of them (the threads) is that when Biden/Biden fans do the same thing as Trump they are somehow always good and doing it in the interests of the people so should be applauded, but when Trump does something it’s always either terrible, an abuse of power or it’s extrapolated out to worse case scenario where trump is LiTeRaLlY hItLeR.

It’s usually the same rhetoric and actions from both, dressed up differently.

I don't think there are any Biden 'fans' here, are there? Pretty much every poster, including byker, has said they'd prefer another candidate.

[Roderick Spode]

paulguitar said:

I don't think there are any Biden 'fans' here, are there? Pretty much every poster, including byker, has said they'd prefer another candidate.

Yet when anyone points out his obvious frailty, infirmity and incapability for the demands of the role, it's usually met with a chorus of "B..b...but TRUMP" as you yourself have done repeatedly.

I'm not saying it's Biden's fault - I think he's a frail elderly man being used by those behind him for their own purposes and gain. The kindest thing would be for the Dems to gracefully retire him and pony up another younger candidate, who could probably beat Trump at a canter. Who would you choose - a 78 year old ex-pres with baggage, or a 50-something fresh faced candidate with drive and energy? Persisting with Biden is cruel and self-defeating.

[thatsprettyshady]

paulguitar said:

thatsprettyshady said:

All three threads are littered with many such examples.

My main issue with all of them (the threads) is that when Biden/Biden fans do the same thing as Trump they are somehow always good and doing it in the interests of the people so should be applauded, but when Trump does something it’s always either terrible, an abuse of power or it’s extrapolated out to worse case scenario where trump is LiTeRaLlY hItLeR.

It’s usually the same rhetoric and actions from both, dressed up differently.

I don't think there are any Biden 'fans' here, are there? Pretty much every poster, including byker, has said they'd prefer another candidate.

Pretty sure there's people here pretending that Biden has had only one gaffe in a 90 minute debate and that was because he was either tired from a trip to europe two weeks previously/has sleep apnea/had a cold. That's Biden simping.

[paulguitar]

thatsprettyshady said:

Pretty sure there's people here pretending that Biden has had only one gaffe in a 90 minute debate and that was because he was either tired from a trip to europe two weeks previously/has sleep apnea/had a cold. That's Biden simping.

He'd had time to recover from his trips. He's too old. I think just about everyone agrees.

[hidetheelephants]

thatsprettyshady said:

All three threads are littered with many such examples.

My main issue with all of them (the threads) is that when Biden/Biden fans do the same thing as Trump they are somehow always good and doing it in the interests of the people so should be applauded, but when Trump does something it’s always either terrible, an abuse of power or it’s extrapolated out to worse case scenario where trump is LiTeRaLlY hItLeR.

It’s usually the same rhetoric and actions from both, dressed up differently.

You carried on an argument for several pages accusing others of arguing for things they were actually arguing against. Are you literally Joe Biden?