45th President Of The United States, Donald Trump (Vol. 14)

[gregs656]

unrepentant said:

Since then Trump has been found guilty of sexual assault (and the judge made it clear that he committed rape).

Trump has also been found guilty on 34 counts of falsification of business records.

Trump's business, that he controls 100%, was found guilty of multiple charges of criminal tax fraud and falsifying business records.

Trump led an insurrection and tried to overthrow the results of an election for which he is facing dozens of other felony charges.

Trump also faces numerous felony charges under the espionage act for wilful retention of national defense documents.

But Joe Biden had a bad debate night.

The past two weeks have been dominated by Biden's debate performance. (Trump hasn't been seen for 10 days).

The next 4 months will be spent talking about what a great job the Biden administration has done and exposing the lies, criminality and incompetence of Trump. Project 2025 will be front and center and that is something that will frighten middle America and women in general to death.

I don’t need the list, honestly. I get it.

That bad debate night - if that’s how you want to characterise it - is going to cost.

So far the Dems seem weak on their messaging and are going to be totally preoccupied defending Bidens age and mental capacity.

[NRS]

dobbo_ said:

Weird that all the chat in the Trump thread is about Biden? (not weird)

With the far right being wiped out in France and the UK, all the focus now is on maintaining the idea that that particular ideology has any traction in the modern world.

Hint: it doesn't

The far right were not wiped out in France, they’re the biggest party there. But thankfully they lost out to the more moderate/left wing groups as a whole. But it remains to be seen if those groups can form a workable coalition.

[gregs656]

off_again said:

Not sure about European news outlets - but here, the polls had Le Pen winning the French election but got it totally wrong. Surely, after all of this time, we would have realized that polls have a major issue with accuracy today and in the past. Not saying that all of them are incorrect, but figuring out which one are accurate and which ones arent is a challenge.

Personally I have a major issue believing any poll at the moment.

I am no expert but I just don’t think the assumptions used in polling for the last little while has kept pace with rapidly changing sentiment and increasingly polarised positions.

The voter base for democrats and the GOP is changing and I don’t think the polls manage that well.

[Starfighter]

unrepentant said:

Mortarboard said:

gregs656 said:

Trump got 74m votes 4 years a go against a much stronger candidate than he faces today.

I'd love to know what the current state of play is regarding how many trump votes might show up this time.

Still no flags/bumper stickers here.

M.

None here either and I live in a very red state.

I wonder if that is linked to money. The RNC is pushing all the cash to Trump’s legal cases which means no cash for bumper stickers and yard signs.

[off_again]

Starfighter said:

unrepentant said:

Mortarboard said:

gregs656 said:

Trump got 74m votes 4 years a go against a much stronger candidate than he faces today.

I'd love to know what the current state of play is regarding how many trump votes might show up this time.

Still no flags/bumper stickers here.

M.

None here either and I live in a very red state.

I wonder if that is linked to money. The RNC is pushing all the cash to Trump’s legal cases which means no cash for bumper stickers and yard signs.

Nope, sorry.

Same here - well not quite. Been saying this for a while, but I am in a VERY red area of the Socialist Republic of California and there is nothing. Nothing on the 4th, no hat wearing oldies - nada.

There is a 'Trump stand' on the main road through the area, but they have had to diversify from just Trump stuff to Dont Tread On Me flags and all sorts of weird stuff. I nearly expected them to carry the rainbow flag too. But no little signs in peoples front gardens, no bumper stickers and no t-shirts. Its still very early, but I was seeing all of this stuff for both 2016 and 2020.

And there are too many enterprising individuals who will cash in and sell anything to anyone, if there was a market. Doesnt have to come from the GOP and there is no copyright on the name 'Trump' anyway. The fact that no-one has figured out a way to monetize this says everything - drastically reduced number of people willing to be associated with Trump and what he stands for. Or should I put it the other way - support is private and no one wants to be seen supporting him.

[gregs656]

I drove through NY, PA and NJ and saw very little support for anyone.

I was in Buffalo 2 weeks ago and saw a yard from the highway decked out in Trump garb though.

[911hope]

g4ry13 said:

Add to that list that he also tried to withdraw the US from the highly ineffective World Health Organization (WHO).

They really had to be seen to do something with the bump stock after the mass shooting in Vegas.

So massive shootings have stopped in the US?

No?

Then perhaps they have reduced?

No?

[hidetheelephants]

I imagine that both racism and shootings have stopped or at least subsided to levels comparable to the rest of the world, the supreme court overturned legislation to combat both these social ills must mean it is so. Or they're a bunch of sociopathic ideologues so wildly out of touch with both the constitution and the population that they do not care and are happy pandering to special interests who buy them holidays and large motorhomes.

[Baroque attacks]

911hope said:

g4ry13 said:

Add to that list that he also tried to withdraw the US from the highly ineffective World Health Organization (WHO).

They really had to be seen to do something with the bump stock after the mass shooting in Vegas.

So massive shootings have stopped in the US?

No?

Then perhaps they have reduced?

No?

Gary is one of the Covid bunch, which explains shoehorning the evil WHO into discussion.

Bump stocks are just a distraction given the US has around 2 mass shootings a day on average. Per capita more fatal stabbing than the UK too!

[dvs_dave]

off_again said:

unrepentant said:

thatsprettyshady said:

Incredible that despite all that, he is still polling neck and neck or even ahead of the other guy.

Funny thing about polls, they're often badly wrong. And like I said, the campaign has 4 months to go and that's an age in American politics.

Not sure about European news outlets - but here, the polls had Le Pen winning the French election but got it totally wrong. Surely, after all of this time, we would have realized that polls have a major issue with accuracy today and in the past. Not saying that all of them are incorrect, but figuring out which one are accurate and which ones arent is a challenge.

Personally I have a major issue believing any poll at the moment.

Polls these days all seem either obviously partisan, or cleverly disguised clickbait. I think this is why they continue to not reflect reality as it’s just not in their interest to.

[Byker28i]

unrepentant said:

thatsprettyshady said:

Incredible that despite all that, he is still polling neck and neck or even ahead of the other guy.

Funny thing about polls, they're often badly wrong. And like I said, the campaign has 4 months to go and that's an age in American politics.

and as I've said and shown a few times, there's evidence of deliberately slewed polls to influence things like 538, who to be fair do weight the sources

[Byker28i]

trumps called into Hannity, claiming now that its Hunter Biden calling the shots. I do wosih he'd make up his mind, it's been Obama, Hillary, Obama, Pelosi, Obama again, Harris....

Mentioned Jill Biden wants him to stay - imaging having a supportive wife and trying to claim that as a negative.

Also - here's the tell, standard with trump, trump projects his problems onto Biden, so when he claims Biden was sheltered and you need to ask his doctors - thats why trumps been missing for 10 days...



Remember trumps claims that his court appearances was stopping him campaigning? No public appearances since the Virginia rally the day after the debate. He's just been golfing, like he did a lot during his term at a huge expense to tax payers as he bilked the govt to pay his company.


trump of course used Hannity for the safe interview.
Meidas Touch points out trumps issues, even with the safe interviewer, how trump couldn't answer properly

Edited by Byker28i on Tuesday 9th July 06:25

[Byker28i]

Even the BBC is explaining Project 2025
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c977njnvq2do





MSNBC pointed out how trump stole their points and put his name on it

Edited by Byker28i on Tuesday 9th July 06:45

[Byker28i]

John Fetterman on Fox, on Biden beating trump

They tried a piece from Tim Ryan and Fetterman pointed out 'former' then asked Fox about Project 2025, reminded Fox about the money it cost them last time they pushed trumps lies

[Byker28i]

Giuliani's creditors are getting fed up with his bankruptcy games, whilst still spending a fortune every month

They claim that Giuliani's "duplicitous conduct" and "disgraceful behavior" included filing nonsensical arguments to try to convert his Chapter 11 bankruptcy into Chapter 7. Chapter 11 is a "reorganization" bankruptcy, whereas Chapter 7 is a "liquidation" bankruptcy; the latter doesn't require a creditor repayment plan.

Filing is here
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscour...

[Byker28i]

That trump appointed judge, Judge Joshua Kindred, of the U.S. District Court for the District of Alaska, who suddenly announced he was standing down, resigned rather than face the Judicial Conference to consider impeachment, over a toxic work environment and how he pursued an "inappropriately sexualized relationship" with a law clerk

https://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/ce9/2024/22...

The best people...

[Byker28i]

Failson claims he has insider knowledge that Biden is resigning on Friday
https://twitter.com/i/status/1810482136664666360

This as everyone yesterday came out in support of Biden

[Byker28i]

Comer again was on Fox pushing his slurs without evidence to try to support trumps election
https://twitter.com/i/status/1810472919451259034

[Byker28i]

Seems many attendees at the RNC conference aren't happy with trumps takeover and the direction its going now

[thatsprettyshady]

Byker28i said:

Seems many attendees at the RNC conference aren't happy with trumps takeover and the direction its going now

Twitter and other sources aligned with RNC don’t seem to be happy he is softening the language around same sex marriage or the fact he doesn’t support a nationwide ban on abortion.

Trump the progressive, who’d have thought it