45th President Of The United States, Donald Trump (Vol. 14)
Discussion
Byker28i said:
Not many dem critics now... and of course you want him to drop out - he beat trump before 
But then Biden wasn't repeatedly in Epsteins flight logs that were recently released, isn't a convicted felon, hasn't been found liable for sexual abuse, rape... isn't facing multiple cases that are being stalled for him...
There's 5 Dems calling for Biden to quit. The House has 435 members & 100 in the Senate Five put of 535? Do we even know who these are?
So no hardly anything now like you claim.
You're kidding your self if you don't think Biden is a huge liability IMO. Trump has successfully done what he did in 2016 to Hillary and failed to do against Biden in 2020 (maybe he didn't think he needed to) - struck gold on an issue which resonates with voters and has enough truth to it that he can claim pretty much what ever he likes.But then Biden wasn't repeatedly in Epsteins flight logs that were recently released, isn't a convicted felon, hasn't been found liable for sexual abuse, rape... isn't facing multiple cases that are being stalled for him...
There's 5 Dems calling for Biden to quit. The House has 435 members & 100 in the Senate Five put of 535? Do we even know who these are?
So no hardly anything now like you claim.
Edited by Byker28i on Monday 8th July 15:43
Biden is sleep walking into giving this election away, I feel like I have been ringing this bell for months with a few other people (Motarboard and I have had this conversation a few times).
gazza285 said:
Byker28i said:
Here we go with Birthism for Kamala Harris
It’s not like Trump’s family go back far in U.S. history, his paternal grandparents were immigrants, and so was his mother. Perhaps they get a free pass as they were the right sort of immigrant.gregs656 said:
You're kidding your self if you don't think Biden is a huge liability IMO. Trump has successfully done what he did in 2016 to Hillary and failed to do against Biden in 2020 (maybe he didn't think he needed to) - struck gold on an issue which resonates with voters and has enough truth to it that he can claim pretty much what ever he likes.
Biden is sleep walking into giving this election away, I feel like I have been ringing this bell for months with a few other people (Motarboard and I have had this conversation a few times).
This. I know a few americans online, both sides of this, and the dem voting crew are worried, they know that debate went very poorly on the optics. The democratic party should have been managing his stepping down for a different candidate 2 years ago, as a half decent democrat who the public was familiar with would beat trump given his issues coming to a head, but against biden and the worries about him, Trump holds more sway.Biden is sleep walking into giving this election away, I feel like I have been ringing this bell for months with a few other people (Motarboard and I have had this conversation a few times).
LF5335 said:
Just out of interest how many Republicans are calling for Trump to go / explicitly stating that they won’t support him / vote for him.
About a dozen (according to wikipedia)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Republicans_...
gazza285 said:
Byker28i said:
Here we go with Birthism for Kamala Harris
It’s not like Trump’s family go back far in U.S. history, his paternal grandparents were immigrants, and so was his mother. Perhaps they get a free pass as they were the right sort of immigrant.dobbo_ said:
Weird that all the chat in the Trump thread is about Biden? (not weird)
With the far right being wiped out in France and the UK, all the focus now is on maintaining the idea that that particular ideology has any traction in the modern world.
Hint: it doesn't
Back in my day things like The National Front and C18 were considered 'far right'. Everything now shifted to the left and the "right" isn't really right at all. Let alone "far right". The Conservatives were meant to be centre-right, but their politics has probably been more left than Tony Blair's Labour government! With the far right being wiped out in France and the UK, all the focus now is on maintaining the idea that that particular ideology has any traction in the modern world.
Hint: it doesn't
In any case, in respect of the UK - the Reform party won 14% of the vote which indicates a sizeable amount of support and can't be ignored by the mainstream parties. I don't think they were under any illusion of winning the election and forming a government.
Le Pen obviously did not get as many seats as she'd hoped but still got quite a sizeable amount by the looks of things.
'Far right' just seems to be a sound bite employed to try scare people.
Quite whether this has anything to do with the #45 thread I would question.
I can't take your post seriously when you say Conservatives are more left than Blair. Particularly as the Tory manifesto for the last 5+ years has been more right wing than the BNP.
Rwanda. Detention Barges. Stop the boats. VIP lane. Unlawful Prorogation of Parliament. Cronyism. Windrush. SO many things.
Regardless you are correct not for this thread - except to say the USA will almost certainly follow suit with UK/France. And with good reason.
Rwanda. Detention Barges. Stop the boats. VIP lane. Unlawful Prorogation of Parliament. Cronyism. Windrush. SO many things.
Regardless you are correct not for this thread - except to say the USA will almost certainly follow suit with UK/France. And with good reason.
Edited by dobbo_ on Monday 8th July 20:28
dobbo_ said:
Weird that all the chat in the Trump thread is about Biden? (not weird)
With the far right being wiped out in France and the UK, all the focus now is on maintaining the idea that that particular ideology has any traction in the modern world.
Hint: it doesn't
Trump got 74m votes 4 years a go against a much stronger candidate than he faces today. With the far right being wiped out in France and the UK, all the focus now is on maintaining the idea that that particular ideology has any traction in the modern world.
Hint: it doesn't
Are you unconcerned about people not showing up for Biden?
Hey, dobbo, would you mind awfully keeping it on topic here, please.
You've already apologised to Kinky once and I suspect even his patience has limits.
I quite enjoy this thread, even with the odd not Trumper dropping in so I would really rather it didn't get locked.
Whaddaya say, huh?
You've already apologised to Kinky once and I suspect even his patience has limits.
I quite enjoy this thread, even with the odd not Trumper dropping in so I would really rather it didn't get locked.
Whaddaya say, huh?
Edited by Strangely Brown on Monday 8th July 21:41
gregs656 said:
Trump got 74m votes 4 years a go against a much stronger candidate than he faces today.
Are you unconcerned about people not showing up for Biden?
Since then Trump has been found guilty of sexual assault (and the judge made it clear that he committed rape).Are you unconcerned about people not showing up for Biden?
Trump has also been found guilty on 34 counts of falsification of business records.
Trump's business, that he controls 100%, was found guilty of multiple charges of criminal tax fraud and falsifying business records.
Trump led an insurrection and tried to overthrow the results of an election for which he is facing dozens of other felony charges.
Trump also faces numerous felony charges under the espionage act for wilful retention of national defense documents.
But Joe Biden had a bad debate night.
The past two weeks have been dominated by Biden's debate performance. (Trump hasn't been seen for 10 days).
The next 4 months will be spent talking about what a great job the Biden administration has done and exposing the lies, criminality and incompetence of Trump. Project 2025 will be front and center and that is something that will frighten middle America and women in general to death.
Mortarboard said:
gregs656 said:
Trump got 74m votes 4 years a go against a much stronger candidate than he faces today.
I'd love to know what the current state of play is regarding how many trump votes might show up this time.Still no flags/bumper stickers here.
M.
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