Rishi Sunak - Prime Minister

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eharding

13,871 posts

287 months

Tuesday 25th June
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bhstewie said:
He'd have been disappointed had it turned out that part of the eco-friendly security measures at Rishi's pad had been to fill the lake with Piranhas.

hidetheelephants

25,849 posts

196 months

Tuesday 25th June
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abzmike said:
XCP said:
abzmike said:
XCP said:
It all contrasts rather with the police officer alleged to have placed a bet. He was arrested ( one wonders why) and has been suspended since the allegations emerged.
Because he is getting done for misconduct in public office...
Hardly the only one. That is the point.
Which brings us back to the point of politicians being essentially unregulated, and their - non criminal - behaviour being governed internally - even the initially lauded Miisterial Code has been routinely flouted, and anyone who has been found in breach after investigations lasting years has had little more than knuckes rapped, and then welcomed back into governemt after a brief sabatical. It all needs to be updated.
The Nolan rules should be enforced rather than being guidance, suspension from parliament etc.

S600BSB

5,595 posts

109 months

Tuesday 25th June
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Mr Penguin said:
He'll be hoping that any of his future employers use the same vetting company as Reform.
Very good

2HFL

1,342 posts

44 months

Tuesday 25th June
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Just a thought, why don’t they ban gambling companies from offering odds on events which are open to insider info, potentially corrupt or illegal activity?

Mr Penguin

1,909 posts

42 months

Tuesday 25th June
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2HFL said:
Just a thought, why don’t they ban gambling companies from offering odds on events which are open to insider info, potentially corrupt or illegal activity?
Because all events at risk of insider betting.

768

14,015 posts

99 months

Tuesday 25th June
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bhstewie said:
A "plant-science" student from the University of Manchester who's also been arrested for Just Stop Oil this month.

eharding

13,871 posts

287 months

Tuesday 25th June
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Mr Penguin said:
2HFL said:
Just a thought, why don’t they ban gambling companies from offering odds on events which are open to insider info, potentially corrupt or illegal activity?
Because all events at risk of insider betting.
How do you think the Met Office managed to afford an extra £1.2 billion on some new supercomputers? Rigged bets on a White Christmas, that's how.

Elysium

14,154 posts

190 months

Tuesday 25th June
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bhstewie said:
Mr Penguin said:
He didn't

Suspended Labour candidate bet on himself losing seat, BBC understands
fking hell laugh
Hilarious.

I think this is actually worse and very probably illegal.


EddieSteadyGo

12,368 posts

206 months

Tuesday 25th June
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S600BSB said:
Mr Penguin said:
S600BSB said:
How could a prospective Labour MP have got the nod about 4 July when most of the cabinet were in the dark? Curious!
He didn't

Suspended Labour candidate bet on himself losing seat, BBC understands
Bonkers!
And it seems he is a millionaire and one of Labour's biggest donors.... recently donating £100,000 to Starmer... if this was the other way around it would be another example of 'Tory Sleaze', but as it doesn't fit the narrative I'm sure it will all be forgotten/forgiven....

https://www.ft.com/content/67c73794-b3dc-4285-8a3a...

bitchstewie

52,545 posts

213 months

Tuesday 25th June
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Eddie I think you'd have to admit that right now it's an isolated event v event number 4271 or whatever we're up to by now.

If it's true it's clearly corrupt possibly illegal and they can throw the book at him for all I care.

But don't try to pretend there's a similar issue with Labour as there is the Conservatives right now.

biggbn

24,329 posts

223 months

Tuesday 25th June
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bhstewie said:
Young people, they are so entitled and disengaged, they should become interested in politics and show a bit of passion, a bit of initiative, a bit of character...


Whoa....

Not THOSE politics, not THAT type of engagement, not THAT kind of interest or initiative!!!

shed driver

2,230 posts

163 months

Tuesday 25th June
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EddieSteadyGo said:
S600BSB said:
Mr Penguin said:
S600BSB said:
How could a prospective Labour MP have got the nod about 4 July when most of the cabinet were in the dark? Curious!
He didn't

Suspended Labour candidate bet on himself losing seat, BBC understands
Bonkers!
And it seems he is a millionaire and one of Labour's biggest donors.... recently donating £100,000 to Starmer... if this was the other way around it would be another example of 'Tory Sleaze', but as it doesn't fit the narrative I'm sure it will all be forgotten/forgiven....

https://www.ft.com/content/67c73794-b3dc-4285-8a3a...
Reports that the Labour Party will return up to £100,000 of donations from Kevin Craig. Obviously small change when compared to Frank Hester, but it shows decisiveness from Mr Flip-Flop.

SD.

https://x.com/breeallegretti/status/18056418803040...

2HFL

1,342 posts

44 months

Tuesday 25th June
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Mr Penguin said:
2HFL said:
Just a thought, why don’t they ban gambling companies from offering odds on events which are open to insider info, potentially corrupt or illegal activity?
Because all events at risk of insider betting.
So just ban gambling full stop then, surely people could live without it…

768

14,015 posts

99 months

Tuesday 25th June
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biggbn said:
bhstewie said:
Young people, they are so entitled and disengaged, they should become interested in politics and show a bit of passion, a bit of initiative, a bit of character...


Whoa....

Not THOSE politics, not THAT type of engagement, not THAT kind of interest or initiative!!!
Lower the voting age to 16, they're mature enough!

EddieSteadyGo

12,368 posts

206 months

Tuesday 25th June
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bhstewie said:
Eddie I think you'd have to admit that right now it's an isolated event v event number 4271 or whatever we're up to by now.

If it's true it's clearly corrupt possibly illegal and they can throw the book at him for all I care.

But don't try to pretend there's a similar issue with Labour as there is the Conservatives right now.
I was waiting for one of the 'useful suspects' to dismiss it as 'nothing to see here'.

My point is many people have a tendency to do stupid things. Conservative MPs using inside information to bet on the result was stupid. As was the Met police officers who seem to have used the same information to do the same thing. As was this prospective MP betting on himself to lose (and looking at the betting market for that seat, it seems up to that point it was a close race).

It's also tempting to group people together, to use a relatively small number of examples to create a narrative about how the whole "group" behave. In my view, it shouldn't work like that. So, on the basis that people often do stupid things, I predict within a few months, we will be getting a regular flow of stories of improper/reckless/stupid/illegal/immoral behaviour from Labour MPs, once they are in government, and the scrutiny increases.

But in the same way, that won't mean all Labour MPs are "rotten" etc either. But I will look forward to reading the moral outrage on those future threads from all the people here who are holier-than-thou.

EddieSteadyGo

12,368 posts

206 months

Tuesday 25th June
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2HFL said:
So just ban gambling full stop then, surely people could live without it…
The wrong conclusion. We have laws and rules around gambling. Break the rules, you take the consequences. We don't need to start banning activities for everyone just because some people don't use good judgement.

Mortarboard

6,288 posts

58 months

Tuesday 25th June
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Who's taking bets on how many will get caught making bets?

Asking for a (soon to be ex-) mp....

M.

deadslow

8,076 posts

226 months

Tuesday 25th June
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EddieSteadyGo said:
...................... We don't need to start banning activities for everyone just because some people don't use good judgement.
there's a difference between poor judgement and attempting to commit fraud.

EddieSteadyGo

12,368 posts

206 months

Tuesday 25th June
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deadslow said:
there's a difference between poor judgement and attempting to commit fraud.
Two sides of the same coin. It's poor judgement which leads to an awful lot of illegal, fraudulent, immoral etc etc behaviour.

bitchstewie

52,545 posts

213 months

Tuesday 25th June
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EddieSteadyGo said:
I was waiting for one of the 'useful suspects' to dismiss it as 'nothing to see here'.

My point is many people have a tendency to do stupid things. Conservative MPs using inside information to bet on the result was stupid. As was the Met police officers who seem to have used the same information to do the same thing. As was this prospective MP betting on himself to lose (and looking at the betting market for that seat, it seems up to that point it was a close race).

It's also tempting to group people together, to use a relatively small number of examples to create a narrative about how the whole "group" behave. In my view, it shouldn't work like that. So, on the basis that people often do stupid things, I predict within a few months, we will be getting a regular flow of stories of improper/reckless/stupid/illegal/immoral behaviour from Labour MPs, once they are in government, and the scrutiny increases.

But in the same way, that won't mean all Labour MPs are "rotten" etc either. But I will look forward to reading the moral outrage on those future threads from all the people here who are holier-than-thou.
I haven't said "nothing to see here" Eddie I said that if true it's crooked and very possibly illegal and the book should be thrown at him which is quite the opposite of "nothing to see here".

You said if it was a Conservative it would be another example of "Tory sleaze".

Well yes it would because this past five years there's been enough examples of it for the cap to fit.