46th President of the United States, Joe Biden

46th President of the United States, Joe Biden

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thatsprettyshady

2,073 posts

168 months

Saturday 29th June
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pneumothorax said:
He has Parkinson's and now has an associated dementia. He probably has a life expectancy of 5 years. It's why for the last few years he has been "up and down" and still has moments when he is able to almost function. The condition (and it's treatment) makes it fluctuant.

It is why he "freezes" as it is primarily a movement disorder (initially) and I would not wish it on my worst enemy, a cruel and incurable affliction, chap needs care not ridicule.

He is probably being dosed up to his eyeballs with Co-Careldopa to keep him actually walking, but now he doesn't know why or where he is trying to walk.

He will not be standing for election later this year.
I am surprised you can come to all those conclusions from looking at him on the telly, is it that obvious to anyone with a medical background, such as yourself?

hidetheelephants

25,953 posts

196 months

Saturday 29th June
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Wheelspinning said:
hidetheelephants said:
Wheelspinning said:
I felt that 'Bidens' moving speech that hit the spot, actually hit the spot better when it was first said by Reagan back at the same spot in 1982.

Whoever 'wrote' Bidens speech for D-Day was correctly assuming Biden would have no recollection of when it was made previously.
It's not the same speech, it's redolent of it and whoever wrote it clearly meant to echo it by using the same rhetorical points. But you know that.
If it was a song, Biden would have been in court for plagiarism and having to pay out 90% of royalties.

Ronnie did the speech in '82 far better and without an autocue.
Did he have help from Doctor Who? The Pointe Du Hoc speech was given by Reagan on the 40th anniversary.

paulguitar

24,434 posts

116 months

Saturday 29th June
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Wheelspinning said:
If it was a song, Biden would have been in court for plagiarism and having to pay out 90% of royalties.

Ronnie did the speech in '82 far better and without an autocue.
Reagan had Alzheimer's when he was still in office, so if Biden has something similar it's not new. It will be interesting to see how this develops.



paulguitar

24,434 posts

116 months

Saturday 29th June
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pneumothorax said:
paulguitar said:
I have not seen this before, where did you learn of the diagnosis?
I didn't, I can see it by looking at him. It's a "spot" diagnosis
Are you a doctor?

Wheelspinning

1,344 posts

33 months

Saturday 29th June
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hidetheelephants said:
Wheelspinning said:
hidetheelephants said:
Wheelspinning said:
I felt that 'Bidens' moving speech that hit the spot, actually hit the spot better when it was first said by Reagan back at the same spot in 1984.

Whoever 'wrote' Bidens speech for D-Day was correctly assuming Biden would have no recollection of when it was made previously.
It's not the same speech, it's redolent of it and whoever wrote it clearly meant to echo it by using the same rhetorical points. But you know that.
If it was a song, Biden would have been in court for plagiarism and having to pay out 90% of royalties.

Ronnie did the speech in '84 far better and without an autocue.
Did he have help from Doctor Who? The Pointe Du Hoc speech was given by Reagan on the 40th anniversary.
It was made on the 6th June 1984.

Apologies for any confusion with my '82 typo.

isaldiri

19,018 posts

171 months

Saturday 29th June
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EddieSteadyGo said:
Even a stalwart Biden supporter like The New York Times has today called for him to stand down from the election race.

https://archive.ph/yxhny
To be fair though, the NYT has been banging the 'biden is too old' drum a while already and has pissed off the white house enough that they have largely been frozen out of the coterie of favoured journalists for a while.

EddieSteadyGo

12,390 posts

206 months

Saturday 29th June
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paulguitar said:
Are you a doctor?
Actually, he is.

pneumothorax

1,378 posts

234 months

Saturday 29th June
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thatsprettyshady said:
I am surprised you can come to all those conclusions from looking at him on the telly, is it that obvious to anyone with a medical background, such as yourself?
yep

pneumothorax

1,378 posts

234 months

Saturday 29th June
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paulguitar said:
Are you a doctor?
yes

paulguitar

24,434 posts

116 months

Saturday 29th June
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pneumothorax said:
paulguitar said:
Are you a doctor?
yes
Interesting.

Mrs Guitar is a doctor of psychology. Something called 'The Goldwater Rule' discourages these kinds of speculations in her field. Is there anything like that in 'physical' medicine?

ChocolateFrog

26,472 posts

176 months

Saturday 29th June
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pneumothorax said:
paulguitar said:
Are you a doctor?
yes
If only the username was some sort of clue biglaugh

paulguitar

24,434 posts

116 months

Saturday 29th June
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ChocolateFrog said:
pneumothorax said:
paulguitar said:
Are you a doctor?
yes
If only the username was some sort of clue biglaugh
Are you a chocolate frog?


andyeds1234

2,328 posts

173 months

Saturday 29th June
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paulguitar said:
Are you a chocolate frog?
rofl and have another… rofl

tim0409

4,574 posts

162 months

Saturday 29th June
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paulguitar said:
Do you genuinely believe that there are open borders and legalized shoplifting in the US?
I thought it was common knowledge that Democratic states like Oregon and California have, in effect, decriminalised shoplifting (legalisation and decriminalisation is a distinction without a difference in this case). Hence why a number of large retailers have shut outlets in those states, and lots of everyday items are now under lock and key instead of being on display.

I read an interesting article about Portland, Oregon last week, where there has been a swing back from the liberal madness that pervaded since the arrest of George Floyd as a result of surging crime. They are now going to arrest people for “low level” crime (like shoplifting and car theft, which has surged by 30%) and refund the police. Who could have predicted that crime would surge when you defunded the police and decriminalise crime…..? It tuns out that voters in Portland have decided that their experiment has turned their city into a sthole and the police aren’t so bad after all.

The Rotrex Kid

30,735 posts

163 months

Saturday 29th June
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andyeds1234 said:
paulguitar said:
Are you a chocolate frog?
rofl and have another… rofl
And another rofl

pneumothorax

1,378 posts

234 months

Saturday 29th June
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paulguitar said:
Are you a doctor?
Paul

Spot diagnoses are rarely things that I get involved in but sometimes they are just so obvious.

I have also made them in real life.

He is not my Patient but I would be confident that JB has Parkinson's just by looking at him "on the telly"

As a junior doctor I worked for a neurologist at the John Radcliffe and he would spot them as they walked into the waiting room.

It is obvious. It really is.



paulguitar

24,434 posts

116 months

Saturday 29th June
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pneumothorax said:
Paul

Spot diagnoses are rarely things that I get involved in but sometimes they are just so obvious.

I have also made them in real life.

He is not my Patient but I would be confident that JB has Parkinson's just by looking at him "on the telly"

As a junior doctor I worked for a neurologist at the John Radcliffe and he would spot them as they walked into the waiting room.

It is obvious. It really is.

Thanks. I'd not heard/read any mention of Parkinson's before.

As to whether you have anything like 'The Goldwater Rule', just curiosity on my part.



Bonefish Blues

27,688 posts

226 months

Saturday 29th June
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I can't understand why the first I hear about it is via a TV diagnosis from 5,000 miles distance - meaning how could this not be diagnosed, or speculated about stateside? And if it had been - as it surely must have been, given how obvious were are told it is - how can his wife let, indeed encourage him to go forward as she is continuing to do?

Petrus1983

9,067 posts

165 months

Saturday 29th June
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Bonefish Blues said:
I can't understand why the first I hear about it is via a TV diagnosis from 5,000 miles distance - meaning how could this not be diagnosed, or speculated about stateside? And if it had been - as it surely must have been, given how obvious were are told it is - how can his wife let, indeed encourage him to go forward as she is continuing to do?
It's been covered in numerous editorials including the New Yorker -

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/annals-of-appear...

pneumothorax

1,378 posts

234 months

Saturday 29th June
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paulguitar said:
Thanks. I'd not heard/read any mention of Parkinson's before.

As to whether you have anything like 'The Goldwater Rule', just curiosity on my part.
Paul

No worries, but just google it, unless he has had a lot of botox , he has an almost diagnostic "mask like" face, it's due to a lack of muscle response in his face to his brain, the condition is in my mind a more benign version of MND

It is also affecting his ability to speak, he sounds like Muhammed Ali and he is now moving like him.

The condition affects everything.