46th President of the United States, Joe Biden
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I can't believe that the Democrats really believe Biden is the best candidate for the job. I'd much rather the Dems won than the Republicans, but based on the debate it's hard to see how Trump didn't come off as being the most compelling candidate from the two.
What a terrible choice the Americans have before them. Where are all the next generation Obama's - sharp, smart, mid 50's etc. I'm truly staggered that this pair is the best presidential candidate that can emerge from a country of 350m people.
What a terrible choice the Americans have before them. Where are all the next generation Obama's - sharp, smart, mid 50's etc. I'm truly staggered that this pair is the best presidential candidate that can emerge from a country of 350m people.
biggles330d said:
I can't believe that the Democrats really believe Biden is the best candidate for the job. I'd much rather the Dems won than the Republicans, but based on the debate it's hard to see how Trump didn't come off as being the most compelling candidate from the two.
What a terrible choice the Americans have before them. Where are all the next generation Obama's - sharp, smart, mid 50's etc. I'm truly staggered that this pair is the best presidential candidate that can emerge from a country of 350m people.
I said the same 4 years ago.What a terrible choice the Americans have before them. Where are all the next generation Obama's - sharp, smart, mid 50's etc. I'm truly staggered that this pair is the best presidential candidate that can emerge from a country of 350m people.
It's an insane situation.
biggles330d said:
I can't believe that the Democrats really believe Biden is the best candidate for the job. I'd much rather the Dems won than the Republicans, but based on the debate it's hard to see how Trump didn't come off as being the most compelling candidate from the two.
What a terrible choice the Americans have before them. Where are all the next generation Obama's - sharp, smart, mid 50's etc. I'm truly staggered that this pair is the best presidential candidate that can emerge from a country of 350m people.
This.What a terrible choice the Americans have before them. Where are all the next generation Obama's - sharp, smart, mid 50's etc. I'm truly staggered that this pair is the best presidential candidate that can emerge from a country of 350m people.
BigMon said:
They are both terrible but if anyone here is rubbing their hands at Trump getting in again and thinking it will be good for the US and the world in general then I have a jar of magic beans they will be interested in.
That's not what people are saying.Having Biden as the candidate is helping Trump get elected, I bet he can't believe his luck.
732NM said:
BigMon said:
They are both terrible but if anyone here is rubbing their hands at Trump getting in again and thinking it will be good for the US and the world in general then I have a jar of magic beans they will be interested in.
That's not what people are saying.Having Biden as the candidate is helping Trump get elected, I bet he can't believe his luck.
Randy Winkman said:
732NM said:
BigMon said:
They are both terrible but if anyone here is rubbing their hands at Trump getting in again and thinking it will be good for the US and the world in general then I have a jar of magic beans they will be interested in.
That's not what people are saying.Having Biden as the candidate is helping Trump get elected, I bet he can't believe his luck.
biggles330d said:
I can't believe that the Democrats really believe Biden is the best candidate for the job. I'd much rather the Dems won than the Republicans, but based on the debate it's hard to see how Trump didn't come off as being the most compelling candidate from the two.
What a terrible choice the Americans have before them. Where are all the next generation Obama's - sharp, smart, mid 50's etc. I'm truly staggered that this pair is the best presidential candidate that can emerge from a country of 350m people.
I’m truly staggered how often the trope about 350m is repeated. It is about 35 people who could ever be considered for President. A huge swathe of the 350m are under 35, weren’t born in the USA or haven’t lived there co timously for 14 years. Any one of those immediately excludes you. Then there’s the millions who are inner city dwellers or gang members or career criminals who aren’t stupid enough to put themselves into the firing line. What a terrible choice the Americans have before them. Where are all the next generation Obama's - sharp, smart, mid 50's etc. I'm truly staggered that this pair is the best presidential candidate that can emerge from a country of 350m people.
People are raised to be politicians and then as they go through the system they fall away u til a very, very small few get the chance to run for President. Most of those don’t make it very far into their run for office either.
As for Biden & Trump it’s as simple as one is past it, the other is past it and a maniac who is determined to end US democracy. Tough choice. Not.
Seems a bit abusive sticking this guy up, no?
https://x.com/rustyrockets/status/1806527566490067...
https://x.com/auronmacintyre/status/18065135739102...
Not sure what golf has to do with this
https://x.com/barstoolsports/status/18065155705331...
https://x.com/rustyrockets/status/1806527566490067...
https://x.com/auronmacintyre/status/18065135739102...
Not sure what golf has to do with this
https://x.com/barstoolsports/status/18065155705331...
Bit of fact checking on both sides
Biden claims border patrol endorses him - https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1806503285584494...
Border patrol union tweets they never have, and never will - https://x.com/bpunion/status/1806501048724430943?s...
Biden claims border patrol endorses him - https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1806503285584494...
Border patrol union tweets they never have, and never will - https://x.com/bpunion/status/1806501048724430943?s...
EddieSteadyGo said:
There is a stinging irony that the group of people, some of whom are represented here, who sit in the "anyone but Trump camp" and will therefore back Biden come what may, will be the group responsible for handing the Presidency to Trump.
This seems to be what some people call 'Trump derangement syndrome' in action, their hatred of the man blinds them to what's truly in-front of them and they can't see the effect it'll have. I honestly cant fathom what the Dems are thinking, it's madness and at this point, also cruel.
EddieSteadyGo said:
There is a stinging irony that the group of people, some of whom are represented here, who sit in the "anyone but Trump camp" and will therefore back Biden come what may, will be the group responsible for handing the Presidency to Trump.
I'm open to the Democrats, and the country, doing anything they have to do, up to and including choosing another candidate if necessary. If the US allows trump back in, it is truly over. The fact that he can be allowed to run, having previously attempted to end the democratic process, is surreal, but this is really happening.CNN brutally fact check Biden’s debate lies - https://x.com/charliekirk11/status/180653951651953...
Edited by thatsprettyshady on Friday 28th June 08:17
paulguitar said:
I'm open to the Democrats, and the country, doing anything they have to do, up to and including choosing another candidate if necessary. If the US allows trump back in, it is truly over. The fact that he can be allowed to run, having previously attempted to end the democratic process, is surreal, but this is really happening.
I have to be blunt. It was OBVIOUS to anyone who looked at the facts Biden was not well enough to stand. The decision to switch to a different candidate should have been made MONTHS ago. All those who turned a blind eye to these facts are responsible for Trump now being in poll position. As I said previously, this should be a stinging irony.Switching to a different candidate at this late stage is problematic, and risky, but it has to be done. Biden isn't going to get any better. The only question is how much worse his cognitive declines becomes now and November.
bobbo89 said:
This seems to be what some people call 'Trump derangement syndrome' in action, their hatred of the man blinds them to what's truly in-front of them and they can't see the effect it'll have.
I can't speak for others, but in my case, it's hating what he did to the USA, and concern at what he seeks to do if re-elected, rather than some kind of personal 'hatred' of the man, although he is demonstrably an appalling individual. Seeing 'TDS' still being used is surreal, after all we've seen from this fellow. He tried to end the democratic process in his own country.
paulguitar said:
EddieSteadyGo said:
There is a stinging irony that the group of people, some of whom are represented here, who sit in the "anyone but Trump camp" and will therefore back Biden come what may, will be the group responsible for handing the Presidency to Trump.
I'm open to the Democrats, and the country, doing anything they have to do, up to and including choosing another candidate if necessary. If the US allows trump back in, it is truly over. The fact that he can be allowed to run, having previously attempted to end the democratic process, is surreal, but this is really happening.Support for Israels genocide?
The 'special exercise' in Ukraine?
China's plans for Taiwan?
Or something else?
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