46th President of the United States, Joe Biden

46th President of the United States, Joe Biden

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Mortarboard

6,288 posts

58 months

Friday 21st June
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jshell said:
Sure. Selective footage from the day has been released, and we know that various politicians both right and left, together with Fox news have the full set of footage. Many people are asking why, if some of the footage was perhaps used to get Jacob Chansley early release, why have we not seen it all?
That's full CT territory.

Chansley was released after serving 26 months of a 41 month sentence, under normal Beaurau of Prisons procedures.

M.

LF5335

6,349 posts

46 months

Friday 21st June
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jshell said:
Sure. Selective footage from the day has been released, and we know that various politicians both right and left, together with Fox news have the full set of footage. Many people are asking why, if some of the footage was perhaps used to get Jacob Chansley early release, why have we not seen it all?
Did these “many people” ask the question with tears in their eyes? Sir, sir, sir

paulguitar

24,375 posts

116 months

Friday 21st June
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jshell said:
Sure. Selective footage from the day has been released, and we know that various politicians both right and left, together with Fox news have the full set of footage. Many people are asking why, if some of the footage was perhaps used to get Jacob Chansley early release, why have we not seen it all?
Have the famously unbiased and trustworthy folks at Fox broadcast the secret footage?

thatsprettyshady

2,009 posts

168 months

Friday 21st June
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paulguitar said:
Mortarboard said:
jshell said:
paulguitar said:
jshell said:
Problem with an actual court case over this one is that we'll have to see ALL of the footage released, and the 'insurrectionists' who have been outed as Feds already will have to be identified.
Do you have an adult source for this?
Oh, has the footage been released? I must have missed that.
Did you ask Mike Johnson? He has it all.

Surprised he's not released it, if it's so exonerating.

M.
Can someone fill us in on this? All I can find from a Google search is what appears to be some rather foolish-looking conspiracy theories.
Correct, there’s a tonne of CT wibble surrounding Jan 6th, Tucker Carlson put out some “just asking questions” type videos and I think certain people ran with it.

I do know the fbi said that they concluded that the “insurrection” was basically a disorganised riot with no pre planning and no clear objective - stupid to do it at the Capitol though.

jshell

11,213 posts

208 months

Friday 21st June
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I love how any suggestion that that anything nefarious is going on with the left side of US politics is met with an immediate flurry of attacks and accusations.

We know that there are thousands of hours of footage that no-one, including Fox has released. It's a simple: 'why?'. Maybe good reasons, maybe not.

We also are pretty sure that Jan 6th was innundated with FBI 'informants', in the manner of the recent attempted kidnap of Gretchen Whitmer where the case collapsed due to the presence of so-called 'informants' who entrapped 2 right wing idiots who went along with it.

The below WaPO article outlines the FBI's difficulty in controlling the large number of agents 'informants' during Jan 6th, and the NYT (shock, horror) even has to concede that there was 'at least one':

https://nypost.com/2023/09/19/fbi-lost-count-of-nu...

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/25/us/politics/cap...

LF5335

6,349 posts

46 months

Friday 21st June
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jshell said:
I love how any suggestion that that anything nefarious is going on with the left side of US politics is met with an immediate flurry of attacks and accusations.

We know that there are thousands of hours of footage that no-one, including Fox has released. It's a simple: 'why?'. Maybe good reasons, maybe not.

We also are pretty sure that Jan 6th was innundated with FBI 'informants', in the manner of the recent attempted kidnap of Gretchen Whitmer where the case collapsed due to the presence of so-called 'informants' who entrapped 2 right wing idiots who went along with it.

The below WaPO article outlines the FBI's difficulty in controlling the large number of agents 'informants' during Jan 6th, and the NYT (shock, horror) even has to concede that there was 'at least one':

https://nypost.com/2023/09/19/fbi-lost-count-of-nu...

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/25/us/politics/cap...
Tinfoil remains a valuable asset in your house then.

paulguitar

24,375 posts

116 months

Friday 21st June
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jshell said:
I love how any suggestion that that anything nefarious is going on with the left side of US politics is met with an immediate flurry of attacks and accusations.
If you come up with something sensible, I suspect it would be taken seriously.

Mortarboard

6,288 posts

58 months

Friday 21st June
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There's over a thousand convictions from Jan 6th.

It's not a conspiracy ffs

rolleyes

M.

dvs_dave

8,811 posts

228 months

Friday 21st June
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jshell said:
Sure. Selective footage from the day has been released, and we know that various politicians both right and left, together with Fox news have the full set of footage. Many people are asking why, if some of the footage was perhaps used to get Jacob Chansley early release, why have we not seen it all?

jshell

11,213 posts

208 months

Friday 21st June
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LF5335 said:
jshell said:
I love how any suggestion that that anything nefarious is going on with the left side of US politics is met with an immediate flurry of attacks and accusations.

We know that there are thousands of hours of footage that no-one, including Fox has released. It's a simple: 'why?'. Maybe good reasons, maybe not.

We also are pretty sure that Jan 6th was innundated with FBI 'informants', in the manner of the recent attempted kidnap of Gretchen Whitmer where the case collapsed due to the presence of so-called 'informants' who entrapped 2 right wing idiots who went along with it.

The below WaPO article outlines the FBI's difficulty in controlling the large number of agents 'informants' during Jan 6th, and the NYT (shock, horror) even has to concede that there was 'at least one':

https://nypost.com/2023/09/19/fbi-lost-count-of-nu...

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/25/us/politics/cap...
Tinfoil remains a valuable asset in your house then.
No, newspaper. But, carry on...

paulguitar

24,375 posts

116 months

Friday 21st June
quotequote all
jshell said:
LF5335 said:
jshell said:
I love how any suggestion that that anything nefarious is going on with the left side of US politics is met with an immediate flurry of attacks and accusations.

We know that there are thousands of hours of footage that no-one, including Fox has released. It's a simple: 'why?'. Maybe good reasons, maybe not.

We also are pretty sure that Jan 6th was innundated with FBI 'informants', in the manner of the recent attempted kidnap of Gretchen Whitmer where the case collapsed due to the presence of so-called 'informants' who entrapped 2 right wing idiots who went along with it.

The below WaPO article outlines the FBI's difficulty in controlling the large number of agents 'informants' during Jan 6th, and the NYT (shock, horror) even has to concede that there was 'at least one':

https://nypost.com/2023/09/19/fbi-lost-count-of-nu...

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/25/us/politics/cap...
Tinfoil remains a valuable asset in your house then.
No, newspaper. But, carry on...
Does 4chan have its own newspaper?




jshell

11,213 posts

208 months

Friday 21st June
quotequote all
paulguitar said:
jshell said:
LF5335 said:
jshell said:
I love how any suggestion that that anything nefarious is going on with the left side of US politics is met with an immediate flurry of attacks and accusations.

We know that there are thousands of hours of footage that no-one, including Fox has released. It's a simple: 'why?'. Maybe good reasons, maybe not.

We also are pretty sure that Jan 6th was innundated with FBI 'informants', in the manner of the recent attempted kidnap of Gretchen Whitmer where the case collapsed due to the presence of so-called 'informants' who entrapped 2 right wing idiots who went along with it.

The below WaPO article outlines the FBI's difficulty in controlling the large number of agents 'informants' during Jan 6th, and the NYT (shock, horror) even has to concede that there was 'at least one':

https://nypost.com/2023/09/19/fbi-lost-count-of-nu...

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/25/us/politics/cap...
Tinfoil remains a valuable asset in your house then.
No, newspaper. But, carry on...
Does 4chan have its own newspaper?
Dunno, do they advertise in the NYT or WaPo?

Crafty_

13,345 posts

203 months

Friday 21st June
quotequote all
jshell said:
I love how any suggestion that that anything nefarious is going on with the left side of US politics is met with an immediate flurry of attacks and accusations.

We know that there are thousands of hours of footage that no-one, including Fox has released. It's a simple: 'why?'. Maybe good reasons, maybe not.
You said

jshell said:
Problem with an actual court case over this one is that we'll have to see ALL of the footage released, and the 'insurrectionists' who have been outed as Feds already will have to be identified.
There are no attacks here, people are asking you to provide any evidence whatsoever that "feds" were not only present, but have been proven to be involved in the insurrection, nothing to do why video footage may or may not have been released.

Both articles you linked to details that FBI informants were present at the time, not anyone in federal employment, just some people who sought to get paid for information.

Doesn't quite live up to your first statement does it ? if you want to make assertions at base them on something vaguely near reality with some sort of proof.




Catatafish

1,368 posts

148 months

Friday 21st June
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It's obvious to me that if they could have done Trump for insurrection in a 'court', they would have already done so.

The fact that the vast majority of the footage is tedious showing nothing happening could explain why no one bothers with it. The cherry picked bits have already been edited into nice chunks for your big-brained, hyper-critical megaminds to file under 'your' opinion.

I don't care if Joe has to prep with "the Manhattan Project of chemical stimulant cocktails" for public appearances, just de-escalate Ukraine and Israel.

This is blatantly within the powers of the administration!

Everything else is superfluous bullst.

TonyToniTone

3,496 posts

252 months

hidetheelephants

25,849 posts

196 months

Friday 21st June
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Catatafish said:
I don't care if Joe has to prep with "the Manhattan Project of chemical stimulant cocktails" for public appearances, just de-escalate Ukraine and Israel.
You seem to have muddled up 45 with 46; only the former has claimed he could end the war in Ukraine, albeit without offering any explanation of how. Biden does not claim such a thing. The only party capable of de-escalating is Russia, they just go home.

Edited by hidetheelephants on Friday 21st June 16:26

paulguitar

24,375 posts

116 months

Friday 21st June
quotequote all
jshell said:
paulguitar said:
jshell said:
LF5335 said:
jshell said:
I love how any suggestion that that anything nefarious is going on with the left side of US politics is met with an immediate flurry of attacks and accusations.

We know that there are thousands of hours of footage that no-one, including Fox has released. It's a simple: 'why?'. Maybe good reasons, maybe not.

We also are pretty sure that Jan 6th was innundated with FBI 'informants', in the manner of the recent attempted kidnap of Gretchen Whitmer where the case collapsed due to the presence of so-called 'informants' who entrapped 2 right wing idiots who went along with it.

The below WaPO article outlines the FBI's difficulty in controlling the large number of agents 'informants' during Jan 6th, and the NYT (shock, horror) even has to concede that there was 'at least one':

https://nypost.com/2023/09/19/fbi-lost-count-of-nu...

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/25/us/politics/cap...
Tinfoil remains a valuable asset in your house then.
No, newspaper. But, carry on...
Does 4chan have its own newspaper?
Dunno, do they advertise in the NYT or WaPo?
You get those newspapers? Where in the US do you live?




LF5335

6,349 posts

46 months

Friday 21st June
quotequote all
Catatafish said:
It's obvious to me that if they could have done Trump for insurrection in a 'court', they would have already done so.

The fact that the vast majority of the footage is tedious showing nothing happening could explain why no one bothers with it. The cherry picked bits have already been edited into nice chunks for your big-brained, hyper-critical megaminds to file under 'your' opinion.

I don't care if Joe has to prep with "the Manhattan Project of chemical stimulant cocktails" for public appearances, just de-escalate Ukraine and Israel.

This is blatantly within the powers of the administration!

Everything else is superfluous bullst.
There are lots of things that “they” could do Trump for in a court. However, getting him into court appears to be a challenge with the judiciary running interference for him. Assuming he loses in November, then there’s every chance he will face charges for that too.

thatsprettyshady

2,009 posts

168 months

Sunday 23rd June
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Hair-on fire-AOC at a recent rally.

https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/180459902127901114...

"Are you ready to fight?"

"I don't know about y'all, but I'm ready to fight"

I'm sure if the other guy said that, it would be taken as incitement hehe

LF5335

6,349 posts

46 months

Sunday 23rd June
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thatsprettyshady said:
Hair-on fire-AOC at a recent rally.

https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/180459902127901114...

"Are you ready to fight?"

"I don't know about y'all, but I'm ready to fight"

I'm sure if the other guy said that, it would be taken as incitement hehe
Is she running for President? Not sure what relevance it has to Joe Biden, other than she’s someone that probably scares you, because, you know, woman