45th President Of The United States, Donald Trump (Vol. 14)

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Getragdogleg

9,035 posts

189 months

Wednesday 3rd July
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thatsprettyshady said:
Getragdogleg said:
thatsprettyshady said:
Getragdogleg said:
thatsprettyshady said:
Getragdogleg said:
thatsprettyshady said:
Getragdogleg said:
This should stop the whole trump train in its tracks except it won't.

Of course it won't, this case is from 2016 and the unnamed woman (Katie is not her real name) dropped the case before the 2016 election and never refiled it.

You can write whatever you please in a complaint, anything at all.

I belive it was dropped/dismissed when the judge demanded proof that this Katie person even existed, which wasn't provided by lawyers so the case was dimissed or dropped - I can't remember which

If there was any merit at all to this case, Hilary, Biden would have at least picked it up and made sure everyone knew about it - they didn't.
As with anything to do with politics there is a high probability that there is more than a bit of truth to this, the "unnamed woman" is probably very well silenced or dead, and the other rich powerful folk who made a habit of indulging in general noncery and other shady st want this buried too.

Lets not forget there is only one person in prison for the Epstein scandal and that is a woman, who has been jailed for sex trafficking to absolutely no-one...
Bloody hell I hope you've never done jury service.
Ahh yes, the personal attack or Ad Hom.

Well done.
You got me there - apologies. Was an off the cuff remark.
I'll dismantle it further if you like, yes the case is from 2016 but with all criminal cases they don't expire or have a "use by" date, so if new evidence comes to light and the establishment undergoes an unlikely deep clean these allegations could well surface again.

I suspect the Clintons don't want too much of a light shone on this topic either, for reasons.

The death of Epstien did the establishment a huge favour, neither side has him sat in prison and a problem of what to do with him, any trial would have been a bun fight and implicated a lot of people from all sides of the political spectrum and business world, powerful people.

The only person in Prison is Maxwell. That's a fact. Yet no-one she trafficked children/girls/women to has ever been held accountable for their crimes...

Its not a conspiracy theory if there is someone in prison !
I find the Epstein stuff both disgusting and fascinating, due to it crossing the aisle so completely and the fact that it gets memory-holed so often by people who should really be shouting it from the rooftops.

There's a tonne of stuff thats yet to come out but is being blocked due to it (possibly) implicating all sorts of powerful people, and you're right it's a travesty that only Ghislane has been tried and convicted when there was clearly many more people taking an active role in it all.

Back to Katie Johnson, this fact check https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-child-rape... seems pretty conclusive.
That's the real trouble, its now clouded by nutters and folk with other agendas.

Trump is dodgy. very dodgy and him winning this election will have serious implications for the security and peace of the wider world.



satans worm

2,409 posts

223 months

Wednesday 3rd July
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C4ME said:
Eric Mc said:
So, the "two term" rule is rather lax.
Seems crystal clear to me. More important than my opinion is the fact the 22nd amendment has never been ignored, set aside or overridden since it was passed.

"No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once."

Edited by C4ME on Wednesday 3rd July 18:02
Key word 'elected' so technically you could slip more terms in as a VP to president move after election


Genuine question becasue of its SCOTUS..... Heil Trump....
But lets look at the bigger picture, who agrees these amendments?

p1stonhead

26,564 posts

173 months

Wednesday 3rd July
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thatsprettyshady said:
Getragdogleg said:
thatsprettyshady said:
Getragdogleg said:
thatsprettyshady said:
Getragdogleg said:
thatsprettyshady said:
Getragdogleg said:
This should stop the whole trump train in its tracks except it won't.

Of course it won't, this case is from 2016 and the unnamed woman (Katie is not her real name) dropped the case before the 2016 election and never refiled it.

You can write whatever you please in a complaint, anything at all.

I belive it was dropped/dismissed when the judge demanded proof that this Katie person even existed, which wasn't provided by lawyers so the case was dimissed or dropped - I can't remember which

If there was any merit at all to this case, Hilary, Biden would have at least picked it up and made sure everyone knew about it - they didn't.
As with anything to do with politics there is a high probability that there is more than a bit of truth to this, the "unnamed woman" is probably very well silenced or dead, and the other rich powerful folk who made a habit of indulging in general noncery and other shady st want this buried too.

Lets not forget there is only one person in prison for the Epstein scandal and that is a woman, who has been jailed for sex trafficking to absolutely no-one...
Bloody hell I hope you've never done jury service.
Ahh yes, the personal attack or Ad Hom.

Well done.
You got me there - apologies. Was an off the cuff remark.
I'll dismantle it further if you like, yes the case is from 2016 but with all criminal cases they don't expire or have a "use by" date, so if new evidence comes to light and the establishment undergoes an unlikely deep clean these allegations could well surface again.

I suspect the Clintons don't want too much of a light shone on this topic either, for reasons.

The death of Epstien did the establishment a huge favour, neither side has him sat in prison and a problem of what to do with him, any trial would have been a bun fight and implicated a lot of people from all sides of the political spectrum and business world, powerful people.

The only person in Prison is Maxwell. That's a fact. Yet no-one she trafficked children/girls/women to has ever been held accountable for their crimes...

Its not a conspiracy theory if there is someone in prison !
I find the Epstein stuff both disgusting and fascinating, due to it crossing the aisle so completely and the fact that it gets memory-holed so often by people who should really be shouting it from the rooftops.

There's a tonne of stuff thats yet to come out but is being blocked due to it (possibly) implicating all sorts of powerful people, and you're right it's a travesty that only Ghislane has been tried and convicted when there was clearly many more people taking an active role in it all.

Back to Katie Johnson, this fact check https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-child-rape... seems pretty conclusive.

eta: additional fact check https://www.snopes.com/news/2016/06/23/donald-trum...

Edited by thatsprettyshady on Wednesday 3rd July 20:02
Trump literally boasted on tape about sexually assaulting people.

Smoke - Fire etc etc.

thatsprettyshady

3,112 posts

171 months

Wednesday 3rd July
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Trump Widens Lead After Biden’s Debate Debacle, Times/Siena Poll Finds - https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/03/us/politics/pol...

This poll has almost 50% of Democrats polled saying Biden should step aside, also with an almost double digit swing towards Trump post-debate.

I know, polls etc

thatsprettyshady

3,112 posts

171 months

Wednesday 3rd July
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p1stonhead said:
thatsprettyshady said:
Getragdogleg said:
thatsprettyshady said:
Getragdogleg said:
thatsprettyshady said:
Getragdogleg said:
thatsprettyshady said:
Getragdogleg said:
This should stop the whole trump train in its tracks except it won't.

Of course it won't, this case is from 2016 and the unnamed woman (Katie is not her real name) dropped the case before the 2016 election and never refiled it.

You can write whatever you please in a complaint, anything at all.

I belive it was dropped/dismissed when the judge demanded proof that this Katie person even existed, which wasn't provided by lawyers so the case was dimissed or dropped - I can't remember which

If there was any merit at all to this case, Hilary, Biden would have at least picked it up and made sure everyone knew about it - they didn't.
As with anything to do with politics there is a high probability that there is more than a bit of truth to this, the "unnamed woman" is probably very well silenced or dead, and the other rich powerful folk who made a habit of indulging in general noncery and other shady st want this buried too.

Lets not forget there is only one person in prison for the Epstein scandal and that is a woman, who has been jailed for sex trafficking to absolutely no-one...
Bloody hell I hope you've never done jury service.
Ahh yes, the personal attack or Ad Hom.

Well done.
You got me there - apologies. Was an off the cuff remark.
I'll dismantle it further if you like, yes the case is from 2016 but with all criminal cases they don't expire or have a "use by" date, so if new evidence comes to light and the establishment undergoes an unlikely deep clean these allegations could well surface again.

I suspect the Clintons don't want too much of a light shone on this topic either, for reasons.

The death of Epstien did the establishment a huge favour, neither side has him sat in prison and a problem of what to do with him, any trial would have been a bun fight and implicated a lot of people from all sides of the political spectrum and business world, powerful people.

The only person in Prison is Maxwell. That's a fact. Yet no-one she trafficked children/girls/women to has ever been held accountable for their crimes...

Its not a conspiracy theory if there is someone in prison !
I find the Epstein stuff both disgusting and fascinating, due to it crossing the aisle so completely and the fact that it gets memory-holed so often by people who should really be shouting it from the rooftops.

There's a tonne of stuff thats yet to come out but is being blocked due to it (possibly) implicating all sorts of powerful people, and you're right it's a travesty that only Ghislane has been tried and convicted when there was clearly many more people taking an active role in it all.

Back to Katie Johnson, this fact check https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-child-rape... seems pretty conclusive.

eta: additional fact check https://www.snopes.com/news/2016/06/23/donald-trum...

Edited by thatsprettyshady on Wednesday 3rd July 20:02
Trump literally boasted on tape about sexually assaulting people.

Smoke - Fire etc etc.
It was incredible that he still won the election, with that tape coming out just one month beforehand.

Bonefish Blues

28,839 posts

229 months

Wednesday 3rd July
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thatsprettyshady said:
p1stonhead said:
thatsprettyshady said:
Getragdogleg said:
thatsprettyshady said:
Getragdogleg said:
thatsprettyshady said:
Getragdogleg said:
thatsprettyshady said:
Getragdogleg said:
This should stop the whole trump train in its tracks except it won't.

Of course it won't, this case is from 2016 and the unnamed woman (Katie is not her real name) dropped the case before the 2016 election and never refiled it.

You can write whatever you please in a complaint, anything at all.

I belive it was dropped/dismissed when the judge demanded proof that this Katie person even existed, which wasn't provided by lawyers so the case was dimissed or dropped - I can't remember which

If there was any merit at all to this case, Hilary, Biden would have at least picked it up and made sure everyone knew about it - they didn't.
As with anything to do with politics there is a high probability that there is more than a bit of truth to this, the "unnamed woman" is probably very well silenced or dead, and the other rich powerful folk who made a habit of indulging in general noncery and other shady st want this buried too.

Lets not forget there is only one person in prison for the Epstein scandal and that is a woman, who has been jailed for sex trafficking to absolutely no-one...
Bloody hell I hope you've never done jury service.
Ahh yes, the personal attack or Ad Hom.

Well done.
You got me there - apologies. Was an off the cuff remark.
I'll dismantle it further if you like, yes the case is from 2016 but with all criminal cases they don't expire or have a "use by" date, so if new evidence comes to light and the establishment undergoes an unlikely deep clean these allegations could well surface again.

I suspect the Clintons don't want too much of a light shone on this topic either, for reasons.

The death of Epstien did the establishment a huge favour, neither side has him sat in prison and a problem of what to do with him, any trial would have been a bun fight and implicated a lot of people from all sides of the political spectrum and business world, powerful people.

The only person in Prison is Maxwell. That's a fact. Yet no-one she trafficked children/girls/women to has ever been held accountable for their crimes...

Its not a conspiracy theory if there is someone in prison !
I find the Epstein stuff both disgusting and fascinating, due to it crossing the aisle so completely and the fact that it gets memory-holed so often by people who should really be shouting it from the rooftops.

There's a tonne of stuff thats yet to come out but is being blocked due to it (possibly) implicating all sorts of powerful people, and you're right it's a travesty that only Ghislane has been tried and convicted when there was clearly many more people taking an active role in it all.

Back to Katie Johnson, this fact check https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-child-rape... seems pretty conclusive.

eta: additional fact check https://www.snopes.com/news/2016/06/23/donald-trum...

Edited by thatsprettyshady on Wednesday 3rd July 20:02
Trump literally boasted on tape about sexually assaulting people.

Smoke - Fire etc etc.
It was incredible that he still won the election, with that tape coming out just one month beforehand.
I don't think that the impact of the 11th hour intervention by Comey can be underestimated.

thatsprettyshady

3,112 posts

171 months

Wednesday 3rd July
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Bonefish Blues said:
I don't think that the impact of the 11th hour intervention by Comey can be underestimated.
And we are likely to see much more this time around, it's only June and the last couple of weeks have been "interesting" to say the least. I can imagine that the Dem campaign is saving a lot for later on.

(killing the quote tree as it's ridiculous)


Kowalski655

14,879 posts

149 months

Wednesday 3rd July
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Biden needs to appoint 4 very young, very liberal Justices to SCOTUS, to bring it back to 1 per circuit, as originally expected. ACB is the precedent for appointing them so close to an election.

That will wipe the smug grin off of trump's face,no more pet court to rubber stamp his crap.
And since any challenges to the election result will need to be done by January 2025, he won't be president to get rid of them while they decide

hidetheelephants

27,357 posts

199 months

Wednesday 3rd July
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Bonefish Blues said:
I don't think that the impact of the 11th hour intervention by Comey can be underestimated.
Less that he did it, more that having made the decision to reveal this information he did not also reveal that Trump was also under investigation for ties to russia via Manafort and others.

Bonefish Blues

28,839 posts

229 months

Wednesday 3rd July
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hidetheelephants said:
Bonefish Blues said:
I don't think that the impact of the 11th hour intervention by Comey can be underestimated.
Less that he did it, more that having made the decision to reveal this information he did not also reveal that Trump was also under investigation for ties to russia via Manafort and others.
It simply validated what Trump had been saying about Crooked Hillary in the minds of waverers.

skwdenyer

17,776 posts

246 months

Wednesday 3rd July
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Kowalski655 said:
Biden needs to appoint 4 very young, very liberal Justices to SCOTUS, to bring it back to 1 per circuit, as originally expected. ACB is the precedent for appointing them so close to an election.

That will wipe the smug grin off of trump's face,no more pet court to rubber stamp his crap.
And since any challenges to the election result will need to be done by January 2025, he won't be president to get rid of them while they decide
There are no vacancies. The number of justices is set in legislation. There's no "official act" available here.

Mortarboard

7,190 posts

61 months

Wednesday 3rd July
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skwdenyer said:
Kowalski655 said:
Biden needs to appoint 4 very young, very liberal Justices to SCOTUS, to bring it back to 1 per circuit, as originally expected. ACB is the precedent for appointing them so close to an election.

That will wipe the smug grin off of trump's face,no more pet court to rubber stamp his crap.
And since any challenges to the election result will need to be done by January 2025, he won't be president to get rid of them while they decide
There are no vacancies. The number of justices is set in legislation. There's no "official act" available here.
Start in the house, get it passed in congress
https://www.markey.senate.gov/news/press-releases/...

M.

hidetheelephants

27,357 posts

199 months

Wednesday 3rd July
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skwdenyer said:
Kowalski655 said:
Biden needs to appoint 4 very young, very liberal Justices to SCOTUS, to bring it back to 1 per circuit, as originally expected. ACB is the precedent for appointing them so close to an election.

That will wipe the smug grin off of trump's face,no more pet court to rubber stamp his crap.
And since any challenges to the election result will need to be done by January 2025, he won't be president to get rid of them while they decide
There are no vacancies. The number of justices is set in legislation. There's no "official act" available here.
The court has had 5, 6, 7 and 10 justices in the past. It's about as firmly fixed as my age.

dobbo_

14,617 posts

254 months

Wednesday 3rd July
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RustyMX5 said:
I wouldn't wholly agree. When I made the statement that I thought Trump had a good chance of winning in a former volume (possibly as far back as 12), CGT was quick and quite brutal in his(?) efforts to shoot it down. Since then, I've largely stayed quiet on the matter.
Was it derision and mockery? Would love to read it.

ScotHill said:
dobbo has actually been one of the worst for jumping on people, and he must be conscious of it because when I said I used a script to block some users he thought he might be one of them. smile
Add me to it now. And it's sweet that you remember me.

Jump on, derision, mockery, you all need to grow up it's pathetic.

And by the way, that comment is both derision and mockery.

Edited by dobbo_ on Wednesday 3rd July 21:16

ScotHill

3,437 posts

115 months

Wednesday 3rd July
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Bonefish Blues said:
It simply validated what Trump had been saying about Crooked Hillary in the minds of waverers.
Yep, I even heard my wife tell her dad on the phone that Hillary was a crook, and she pays pretty much no attention to news or politics. Lies are halfway round the world before...

hidetheelephants

27,357 posts

199 months

Wednesday 3rd July
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ScotHill said:
Bonefish Blues said:
It simply validated what Trump had been saying about Crooked Hillary in the minds of waverers.
Yep, I even heard my wife tell her dad on the phone that Hillary was a crook, and she pays pretty much no attention to news or politics. Lies are halfway round the world before...
That's more likely to be because TFG called her Crooked Hillary every day and the media gleefully amplified it for him. It's doubtful your wife ever heard of the FBI investigation if she paid no attention to news.

ScotHill

3,437 posts

115 months

Wednesday 3rd July
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hidetheelephants said:
That's more likely to be because TFG called her Crooked Hillary every day and the media gleefully amplified it for him. It's doubtful your wife ever heard of the FBI investigation if she paid no attention to news.
Yeah no she wouldn’t have, just shows how much it works though, if repeated enough.

Getragdogleg

9,035 posts

189 months

Wednesday 3rd July
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hidetheelephants said:
ScotHill said:
Bonefish Blues said:
It simply validated what Trump had been saying about Crooked Hillary in the minds of waverers.
Yep, I even heard my wife tell her dad on the phone that Hillary was a crook, and she pays pretty much no attention to news or politics. Lies are halfway round the world before...
That's more likely to be because TFG called her Crooked Hillary every day and the media gleefully amplified it for him. It's doubtful your wife ever heard of the FBI investigation if she paid no attention to news.
I'm not convinced that she is not crooked to be honest, I think she's a manipulative woman who seeks absolute power and is prepared to get her hand figuratively dirty to achieve this goal.

That's not necessarily a bad thing to have in charge of a country and it can be positively advantageous to have your own utter bd facing up to the rest of the worlds utter bds but lets keep it in mind that she's not some lovely little granny who only wants to do the right thing by everyone.

What she is not, is Trump, and as such she should have done better last time out. Its crazy to think the world watched him win and he's back again now still grifting, still avoiding any responsibility and still got a massive following.

It would be great to watch this soap opera if this was fiction, its scary because it's real.

hidetheelephants

27,357 posts

199 months

Wednesday 3rd July
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Getragdogleg said:
I'm not convinced that she is not crooked to be honest, I think she's a manipulative woman who seeks absolute power and is prepared to get her hand figuratively dirty to achieve this goal.
The FBI decided there was no case to answer and numerous congressional investigations found nothing of substance. I'd be surprised if she wasn't manipulative, it's more or less an essential skill to get into politics.

OzzyR1

5,892 posts

238 months

Wednesday 3rd July
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Getragdogleg said:
As with anything to do with politics there is a high probability that there is more than a bit of truth to this, the "unnamed woman" is probably very well silenced or dead, and the other rich powerful folk who made a habit of indulging in general noncery and other shady st want this buried too.

Lets not forget there is only one person in prison for the Epstein scandal and that is a woman, who has been jailed for sex trafficking to absolutely no-one...
Yup, I'm no conspiracy theorist but this is nearer to home:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westminster_paedophi...

You'd think something so potentially ground-breaking couldn't possibly just go missing when in the guardianship of the Home Office, alongside 114 other documents relating to claims of child abuse but it seems they can.

If it looks like a duck...

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