45th President Of The United States, Donald Trump (Vol. 14)

45th President Of The United States, Donald Trump (Vol. 14)

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RustyMX5

7,946 posts

220 months

Wednesday 3rd July
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hidetheelephants said:
Byker28i said:
RustyMX5 said:
What's really surprised me though is that the twitter storm he unleashed in 2015 and 2016 is completely missing this time around. I had high expectations that he'd return to using that as a weapon of choice especially as he seems to have the backing of Musk. Yeah, I know that contractually he couldn't use it in the same way because of his obligation to Lies Social but even so, only a single tweet so far.
He using TS instead. All the bile is still there, the lies, the threats
You don't have to give him bandwidth
https://x.com/trumpdailyposts?lang=en
He won't swap to twitter at least until he's sold his Truth shares or used them as collateral for a loan, then all bets are off. As he's an egotist who cannot resist chasing approbation it's plausible he will then seek the larger audience available and abandon TS to a share price collapse.
That's my expectation too but I'm just a bit surprised he hasn't been priming his ttter faithful with the odd tease yet.

@Byker. I wasn't aware of that link and thank you for that. I wonder if there's an API feed or something that connects the two.

KaraK

13,222 posts

212 months

Wednesday 3rd July
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C4ME said:
If he is elected he will only be able to serve a single term this time. In 4 years time somebody else will be elected and the world will move on.
The only thing preventing his staying more than a single 4 year term is the 22nd Amendment - an amendment that (as written) not only has a giant loophole that you could fly trump force one through but has been the subject of more than 50 repeal attempts (from various sources) since it came in. Even ignoring the 22nd Amendment jiggery pokery the most common argument against suggested shenanigans to stay in power i.e. "he can't do that - it's illegal" no longer carries any weight, Nixon once said "Well, when the president does it, that means that it is not illegal" and that's now been established as true by the highest court in the land.

g4ry13

17,530 posts

258 months

Wednesday 3rd July
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Rumblings that Biden is considering dropping out. Link

I have also seen another source claim he said nothing like this too.

daveco

4,158 posts

210 months

Wednesday 3rd July
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g4ry13 said:
Rumblings that Biden is considering dropping out. Link

I have also seen another source claim he said nothing like this too.
Give it to Newsom!

Eric Mc

122,397 posts

268 months

Wednesday 3rd July
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KaraK said:
C4ME said:
If he is elected he will only be able to serve a single term this time. In 4 years time somebody else will be elected and the world will move on.
The only thing preventing his staying more than a single 4 year term is the 22nd Amendment - an amendment that (as written) not only has a giant loophole that you could fly trump force one through but has been the subject of more than 50 repeal attempts (from various sources) since it came in. Even ignoring the 22nd Amendment jiggery pokery the most common argument against suggested shenanigans to stay in power i.e. "he can't do that - it's illegal" no longer carries any weight, Nixon once said "Well, when the president does it, that means that it is not illegal" and that's now been established as true by the highest court in the land.
Didn't FDR manage three terms (although he died part way through his third).

So, the "two term" rule is rather lax.

Strangely Brown

10,288 posts

234 months

Wednesday 3rd July
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C4ME said:
If Trump gets elected it will be the will of the American people. If he is elected he will only be able to serve a single term this time. In 4 years time somebody else will be elected and the world will move on.
Wrong. If he gets in it will be because, one way or another, he got the requisite number of electoral college votes. The will of the people is represented by the popular vote. They are not the same thing.

Mortarboard

6,345 posts

58 months

Wednesday 3rd July
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There may be a constitutionality challenge to the recent scotus ruling- it's effect on the impeachment process

The impeachment process is explicitly stated in the constitution, whereas the recent scotus ruling that "official acts have absolute immunity" is not.

One for the legal scholars.

M.

Matt Harper

6,668 posts

204 months

Wednesday 3rd July
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Byker28i said:
anyone who thinks actions in the US don't have a knock on around the world are sadly mistaken.
That aspect, I understand and wholeheartedly agree with. However, the vicarious hand-wringing and moral outrage around matters that only impact those of us who live in this society, is more of a stretch for me.

Byker28i

62,468 posts

220 months

Wednesday 3rd July
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RustyMX5 said:
hidetheelephants said:
Byker28i said:
RustyMX5 said:
What's really surprised me though is that the twitter storm he unleashed in 2015 and 2016 is completely missing this time around. I had high expectations that he'd return to using that as a weapon of choice especially as he seems to have the backing of Musk. Yeah, I know that contractually he couldn't use it in the same way because of his obligation to Lies Social but even so, only a single tweet so far.
He using TS instead. All the bile is still there, the lies, the threats
You don't have to give him bandwidth
https://x.com/trumpdailyposts?lang=en
He won't swap to twitter at least until he's sold his Truth shares or used them as collateral for a loan, then all bets are off. As he's an egotist who cannot resist chasing approbation it's plausible he will then seek the larger audience available and abandon TS to a share price collapse.
That's my expectation too but I'm just a bit surprised he hasn't been priming his ttter faithful with the odd tease yet.

@Byker. I wasn't aware of that link and thank you for that. I wonder if there's an API feed or something that connects the two.
I believe it's a manual thing. Musk killed the API's that used to just repeat trumps posts (and was useful for data gathering...)

As soon as trump sells his TS shares and cashes in, he'll move to twitter and TS will be worthless

RustyMX5

7,946 posts

220 months

Wednesday 3rd July
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Eric Mc said:
Didn't FDR manage three terms (although he died part way through his third).

So, the "two term" rule is rather lax.
FDR died part way through his 4th term and the 22nd amendment (limiting to two terms) was implemented after he died but as a result of him hanging on for so long.

Byker28i

62,468 posts

220 months

Wednesday 3rd July
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daveco said:
g4ry13 said:
Rumblings that Biden is considering dropping out. Link

I have also seen another source claim he said nothing like this too.
Give it to Newsom!
Unatributed sources, yet we have Biden family and close advisors are saying nothign of the sort.

Again, Biden gave one poor performance after as he said, travelling around the world, G7 Summit, everything going on with Hunter and potus work

trump gives a poor performance all the time, mumbles, word salad, dozes off in trials, yet no once is there any media suggest he leaves the contest, even when he's convicted...

NY Times have been running stories like this since the debate.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/03/us/politics/bid...

g4ry13

17,530 posts

258 months

Wednesday 3rd July
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daveco said:
g4ry13 said:
Rumblings that Biden is considering dropping out. Link

I have also seen another source claim he said nothing like this too.
Give it to Newsom!
Kamala Harris has leapfrogged Biden on the odds. She's second favourite after our hero. wink

Byker28i

62,468 posts

220 months

Wednesday 3rd July
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g4ry13 said:
daveco said:
g4ry13 said:
Rumblings that Biden is considering dropping out. Link

I have also seen another source claim he said nothing like this too.
Give it to Newsom!
Kamala Harris has leapfrogged Biden on the odds. She's second favourite after our hero. wink
here's a claim that Six corporations control 90% of the news media. They are run by trump-loving CEOs
https://twitter.com/thomaskaine5/status/1808285477...

F1GTRUeno

6,430 posts

221 months

Wednesday 3rd July
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C4ME said:
If Trump gets elected it will be the will of the American people. If he is elected he will only be able to serve a single term this time. In 4 years time somebody else will be elected and the world will move on.
In 4 years time Trump with a Supreme Court, packed lower courts and a whole party of Republicans working for him will have engineered a point in time where the constitutional limits don't apply and there might not be another election. What happens when that happens is anyone's guess.

I don't get why people have any faith in traditions/law when they continually display the fact that they want to run roughshod over it and are enabled to do so at every turn?

paulguitar

24,458 posts

116 months

Wednesday 3rd July
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C4ME said:
If Trump gets elected it will be the will of the American people. If he is elected he will only be able to serve a single term this time. In 4 years time somebody else will be elected and the world will move on.
How did it go the last time he was obliged to leave the arena? And that was before a corrupt SCOTUS showed their hand.



g4ry13

17,530 posts

258 months

Wednesday 3rd July
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Byker28i said:
g4ry13 said:
daveco said:
g4ry13 said:
Rumblings that Biden is considering dropping out. Link

I have also seen another source claim he said nothing like this too.
Give it to Newsom!
Kamala Harris has leapfrogged Biden on the odds. She's second favourite after our hero. wink
here's a claim that Six corporations control 90% of the news media. They are run by trump-loving CEOs
https://twitter.com/thomaskaine5/status/1808285477...
Absolute rubbish.

I also think Trump is very happy to run against Biden and would hope to be up against him when it gets to voting day. Either way, it's going to be win-win for Trump if he goes up against Biden, or if the Dems have a last minute replacement and look incompetent in the process.

PurplePenguin

3,045 posts

36 months

Wednesday 3rd July
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Byker28i said:
daveco said:
g4ry13 said:
Rumblings that Biden is considering dropping out. Link

I have also seen another source claim he said nothing like this too.
Give it to Newsom!
Unatributed sources, yet we have Biden family and close advisors are saying nothign of the sort.

Again, Biden gave one poor performance after as he said, travelling around the world, G7 Summit, everything going on with Hunter and potus work

trump gives a poor performance all the time, mumbles, word salad, dozes off in trials, yet no once is there any media suggest he leaves the contest, even when he's convicted...

NY Times have been running stories like this since the debate.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/03/us/politics/bid...
Are you blind?

Mortarboard

6,345 posts

58 months

Wednesday 3rd July
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There will be no snap decision either way.

The DNC will want to see if this is a blip or a trend.
(In terms of polling effect)

M.

g4ry13

17,530 posts

258 months

Wednesday 3rd July
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Mortarboard said:
There will be no snap decision either way.

The DNC will want to see if this is a blip or a trend.
(In terms of polling effect)

M.
How late can they leave it? We're 4 months away from voting day.

Any replacement candidate is going to have go out on the campaign trail and get funding. I think they really have to decide this in the next few weeks, maybe month top. If Biden is still the guy by mid-August then I think they'll have to run with him unless his health does not allow.

InformationSuperHighway

6,218 posts

187 months

Wednesday 3rd July
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g4ry13 said:
Mortarboard said:
There will be no snap decision either way.

The DNC will want to see if this is a blip or a trend.
(In terms of polling effect)

M.
How late can they leave it? We're 4 months away from voting day.

Any replacement candidate is going to have go out on the campaign trail and get funding. I think they really have to decide this in the next few weeks, maybe month top. If Biden is still the guy by mid-August then I think they'll have to run with him unless his health does not allow.
I agree, especially on the donor side.

I actually think it's already too late. They've got to go with Biden now.