46th President of the United States, Joe Biden

[Bonefish Blues]

Catweazle said:

LF5335 said:

That German ancestry runs deep.

Observant poster is observant

[thatsprettyshady]

More deep fakes coming out those nasty right wing media outlets.

https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/18031519059478818...

[simon_harris]

thatsprettyshady said:

More deep fakes coming out those nasty right wing media outlets.

https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/18031519059478818...

But Trump

[TonyToniTone]

To be fair he gets through a fairly good speech without any other hiccups, the expression of the lady behind tho'

Biden marks DACA anniversary; announces order to protect undocumented spouses of U.S. citizens

[paulguitar]

simon_harris said:

But Trump

You've absolutely (inadvertently?) hit the nail on the head there. Both are too old and prone to mumbling and gaffes, trump went off on an extraordinary rant a few days ago about electric boats and sharks, and Biden appears confused in that clip.

But, as you say, Biden's opponent is trump, and that is a complete game-changer in a two-horse race. Both are too old, and both struggle at times, but only one tried to take down his own country and openly plans to do so again.

[simon_harris]

It is beyond my comprehension how these two will be the candidates for the next US presidency, the only reasonable answer can be lizard people.

[MesoForm]

LF5335 said:

That’s a classic and well trodden path. I don’t think anyone on here is saying Biden is the ideal candidate or President. In fact most are in agreement that he’s too old. What he is, though, is the most sensible Democrat nominee. Why waste a good young talent fighting off the equally old Trump? Save that candidate for next time, when the GOP might have started to get their house in order.

Biden beat Trump last time too, so he has a good track record.

What a sad state of affairs when the objective of a presidential election is to beat the other guy instead of picking the best candidate for the job.

[LF5335]

MesoForm said:

What a sad state of affairs when the objective of a presidential election is to beat the other guy instead of picking the best candidate for the job.

This might have passed you by, but have a look who the GOP are about to confirm as their candidate. Now try to reconcile that with your concept of picking the best candidate for the job.

[dvs_dave]

MesoForm said:

What a sad state of affairs when the objective of a presidential election is to beat the other guy instead of picking the best candidate for the job.

Hmmm….you must be new to this thing called politics.

[98elise]

MesoForm said:

LF5335 said:

That’s a classic and well trodden path. I don’t think anyone on here is saying Biden is the ideal candidate or President. In fact most are in agreement that he’s too old. What he is, though, is the most sensible Democrat nominee. Why waste a good young talent fighting off the equally old Trump? Save that candidate for next time, when the GOP might have started to get their house in order.

Biden beat Trump last time too, so he has a good track record.

What a sad state of affairs when the objective of a presidential election is to beat the other guy instead of picking the best candidate for the job.

When a convicted felon is threatening democracy that's good enough.

[Four Litre]

98elise said:

MesoForm said:

LF5335 said:

That’s a classic and well trodden path. I don’t think anyone on here is saying Biden is the ideal candidate or President. In fact most are in agreement that he’s too old. What he is, though, is the most sensible Democrat nominee. Why waste a good young talent fighting off the equally old Trump? Save that candidate for next time, when the GOP might have started to get their house in order.

Biden beat Trump last time too, so he has a good track record.

What a sad state of affairs when the objective of a presidential election is to beat the other guy instead of picking the best candidate for the job.

When a convicted felon is threatening democracy that's good enough.

So you have a convicted felon and a dementia riddle old man to chose from!

Do you not ask yourself. how have we got to this point? Which ever side your on, if it was for a company CEO role, BOTH wouldn't even make the shortlist.

If Joe was the CEO of a large multinational, the shareholders would categorically have him removed as the share price would be tanking. Perception is everything.

Its astonishing how people on here will defend him and state all is good. Its like the emperors new clothes all over again!!

[Mortarboard]

Lots of presidents, and presidential candidates have been (and are) old.

Both current candidates are old.

Only one is an insurrectionist and multiple convicted felon.

M.

[LF5335]

Four Litre said:

So you have a convicted felon and a dementia riddle old man to chose from!

Do you not ask yourself. how have we got to this point? Which ever side your on, if it was for a company CEO role, BOTH wouldn't even make the shortlist.

If Joe was the CEO of a large multinational, the shareholders would categorically have him removed as the share price would be tanking. Perception is everything.

Its astonishing how people on here will defend him and state all is good. Its like the emperors new clothes all over again!!

I’m not sure how many times that I (and others) can repeat the same thing. Biden is not the ideal candidate. In an ideal world he wouldn’t be running. We aren’t in an ideal world. Biden is probably the best candidate from a Dem perspective to deal with Trump. He’s beaten him once, they don’t waste a young talent, beating an aged, insurrectionist, rapist, fraudster, convicted felon and mentally deficient obese geriatric.

If Trump weren’t running I’m sure the Dems would field someone else, but as he is, why not wallop him again using Biden.

[captain_cynic]

Mortarboard said:

Lots of presidents, and presidential candidates have been (and are) old.

Both current candidates are old.

Only one is an insurrectionist and multiple convicted felon.

M.

B-B-B-But Biden is old.

Did we mention he's old.

Biden is old.

He's old you know.

Heres a faked/doctored video deliberately put of context..

Did you know Joe Biden is old.

All we seem to get from the "not" Trump supporters who ignore that he's nearly as old and in far worse shape.

Like many people I'd prefer younger, more dynamic candidates but I'm also not an American or living in the US and it seems the US likes some age on their presidents with the average age of a president at inauguration being 55.

In comparison between Trump and Biden, Biden is the grandad who is still able to take you to the park and throw the ball around with you and buys you an ice-cream (even though your mother told him not to). Trump on the other hand is the grandpa who can barely get out of a chair, is perpetually drunk, can't remember your name and shouts abuse at everyone.

Yeah, totally the same.

Did I mention Biden is old?

[amusingduck]

LF5335 said:

I’m not sure how many times that I (and others) can repeat the same thing. Biden is not the ideal candidate. In an ideal world he wouldn’t be running. We aren’t in an ideal world. Biden is probably the best candidate from a Dem perspective to deal with Trump. He’s beaten him once, they don’t waste a young talent, beating an aged, insurrectionist, rapist, fraudster, convicted felon and mentally deficient obese geriatric.

If Trump weren’t running I’m sure the Dems would field someone else, but as he is, why not wallop him again using Biden.

Well, presumably, you'd field the best possible candidate to remove any possibility of Trump becoming supreme leader forever?

The trend is going the wrong way thus far.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2024-election...

[paulguitar]

amusingduck said:

LF5335 said:

I’m not sure how many times that I (and others) can repeat the same thing. Biden is not the ideal candidate. In an ideal world he wouldn’t be running. We aren’t in an ideal world. Biden is probably the best candidate from a Dem perspective to deal with Trump. He’s beaten him once, they don’t waste a young talent, beating an aged, insurrectionist, rapist, fraudster, convicted felon and mentally deficient obese geriatric.

If Trump weren’t running I’m sure the Dems would field someone else, but as he is, why not wallop him again using Biden.

Well, presumably, you'd field the best possible candidate to remove any possibility of Trump becoming supreme leader forever?

The trend is going the wrong way thus far.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2024-election...

Very close at present.

I remember watching the January 6th riots that trump had whipped up, and, mixed in with the sadness and horror was at least a feeling that clearly we'd never have to see or hear from trump ever again in any meaningful way.

But here we are. It's surreal.

[Mortarboard]

Fox reporting a poll that doesn't show trump winning is more significant than the poll results, tbf.

M.

[Four Litre]

LF5335 said:

Four Litre said:

So you have a convicted felon and a dementia riddle old man to chose from!

Do you not ask yourself. how have we got to this point? Which ever side your on, if it was for a company CEO role, BOTH wouldn't even make the shortlist.

If Joe was the CEO of a large multinational, the shareholders would categorically have him removed as the share price would be tanking. Perception is everything.

Its astonishing how people on here will defend him and state all is good. Its like the emperors new clothes all over again!!

I’m not sure how many times that I (and others) can repeat the same thing. Biden is not the ideal candidate. In an ideal world he wouldn’t be running. We aren’t in an ideal world. Biden is probably the best candidate from a Dem perspective to deal with Trump. He’s beaten him once, they don’t waste a young talent, beating an aged, insurrectionist, rapist, fraudster, convicted felon and mentally deficient obese geriatric.

If Trump weren’t running I’m sure the Dems would field someone else, but as he is, why not wallop him again using Biden.

I hear what your saying but surely Biden condition makes him a weaker candidate against Trump. The Dems had years to have somebody to replace him. Is US law that same as the UK whereas they can replace him after winning, without a public vote?

[paulguitar]

Four Litre said:

I hear what your saying but surely Biden condition makes him a weaker candidate against Trump. The Dems had years to have somebody to replace him. Is US law that same as the UK whereas they can replace him after winning, without a public vote?

What is 'Biden condition'?

[Four Litre]

captain_cynic said:

Mortarboard said:

Lots of presidents, and presidential candidates have been (and are) old.

'In comparison between Trump and Biden, Biden is the grandad who is still able to take you to the park and throw the ball around with you and buys you an ice-cream (even though your mother told him not to)'

We must live in a parallel universe as I don't think Biden is capable of throwing a ball around a room, let alone a park! Maybe a couple of months ago, but seems to of gone of a cliff recently.