46th President of the United States, Joe Biden

[g3org3y]

captain_cynic said:

You know that video has been doctored, right?

It's fake.

But of course you knew that already. You're just hoping everyone else is dumb enough to fall for it.

Do you have a link to undoctored non fake video?

[LF5335]

TonyToniTone said:

LF5335 said:

I hope you’ve never stood still in your life!

So not doctored or fake, just a case of reverse musical statues?

I don’t say that. They’re fake videos. All edited and all lies. It’s been shown to be fake and debunked over and over and over again, but you have to keep defending it.

My comment was in isolation and purely stated that standing still isn’t exactly evidence of anything. If he stopped talking mid-sentence like Mitch McConnell last year

https://youtu.be/MznC9B68Pfg?si=Kok5doD6vRMRhl9c

Or just lost the plot and started talking about electric boats electrocuting you and sharks and claiming it’s the best question ever, or wind farms killing whales then that would be worrying.

https://youtu.be/p4DLzpB8e84?si=BxCLbmxIWIZY46Pc

https://youtu.be/3W0p_yHk10I?si=DSm-Iv9S_hw1vlm2

[g3org3y]

LF5335 said:

TonyToniTone said:

LF5335 said:

I hope you’ve never stood still in your life!

So not doctored or fake, just a case of reverse musical statues?

I don’t say that. They’re fake videos. All edited and all lies. It’s been shown to be fake and debunked over and over and over again, but you have to keep defending it.

Sorry, to clarify, the new video posted (with Obama) as per The Standard and The Sun are fake or have I misunderstood what you're saying?

[LF5335]

g3org3y said:

Do you have a link to undoctored non fake video?

There you go

https://www.yahoo.com/news/white-house-slams-york-...

Plenty more available and lots of articles debunking the fake video with little effort on Google.

[g3org3y]

LF5335 said:

g3org3y said:

Do you have a link to undoctored non fake video?

There you go

https://www.yahoo.com/news/white-house-slams-york-...

Plenty more available and lots of articles debunking the fake video with little effort on Google.

Thanks.

Edit: Watching them both back to back - both seem the same event from a different angle (or am I being blind (quite possible))?

Biden does a double thumbs up and then stands there for about 6 secs while Obama continues to wave (x3).

In the 'real' video - the camera pulls back but from what I can see Obama's waving is consistent between the two videos and Biden remains still.

Obama takes Biden's hand (does a wave with his left hand) and then follows this up with a hand on the back.



The Metro suggests the 'fake' video is a ' cheap edited clip shared by Pro-Trump pundits but I'm not sure (again, may be blind) what 'real' video posted by Olga Nesterova shows to disprove it?

Edited by g3org3y on Monday 17th June 14:55

[thatsprettyshady]

LF5335 said:

g3org3y said:

Do you have a link to undoctored non fake video?

There you go

https://www.yahoo.com/news/white-house-slams-york-...

Plenty more available and lots of articles debunking the fake video with little effort on Google.

So this one: https://x.com/onestpress/status/180244939252945319...

Is the real one?

And this one:
https://x.com/rncresearch/status/18023682313210761...

Is the fake one?

Surely the other way around, no?

Also why is there no sound on the “real” one?

[TonyToniTone]

LF5335 said:

TonyToniTone said:

LF5335 said:

I hope you’ve never stood still in your life!

So not doctored or fake, just a case of reverse musical statues?

I don’t say that. They’re fake videos. All edited and all lies. It’s been shown to be fake and debunked over and over and over again, but you have to keep defending it.

My comment was in isolation and purely stated that standing still isn’t exactly evidence of anything. If he stopped talking mid-sentence like Mitch McConnell last year

https://youtu.be/MznC9B68Pfg?si=Kok5doD6vRMRhl9c

Or just lost the plot and started talking about electric boats electrocuting you and sharks and claiming it’s the best question ever, or wind farms killing whales then that would be worrying.

https://youtu.be/p4DLzpB8e84?si=BxCLbmxIWIZY46Pc

https://youtu.be/3W0p_yHk10I?si=DSm-Iv9S_hw1vlm2

How are they fake videos, what has been edited - can you point to the frame in question?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQaF12v1l18&ab...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6Lx601u5Ds&ab...

[LF5335]

g3org3y said:

Sorry, to clarify, the new video posted (with Obama) as per The Standard and The Sun are fake or have I misunderstood what you're saying?

Why are you making this so difficult? It’s not tricky.

[g3org3y]

LF5335 said:

g3org3y said:

Sorry, to clarify, the new video posted (with Obama) as per The Standard and The Sun are fake or have I misunderstood what you're saying?

Why are you making this so difficult? It’s not tricky.

I was asking whether it was the new fundraiser video was the one considered fake (not the White House concert that was also linked)

[Four Litre]

LF5335 said:

g3org3y said:

Do you have a link to undoctored non fake video?

There you go

https://www.yahoo.com/news/white-house-slams-york-...

Plenty more available and lots of articles debunking the fake video with little effort on Google.

God he looks terrible doesn't he, poor guy. My FIL sadly has developed dementia and I can see the same look, mannerisms etc. That haunting stare and the stiff unnatural body movements. Sad to watch.

[Mortarboard]

Four Litre said:

God he looks terrible doesn't he, poor guy. My FIL sadly has developed dementia and I can see the same look, mannerisms etc. That haunting stare and the stiff unnatural body movements. Sad to watch.

So if he appears normal at the debates, will that be because it's a body-double, presumably?

M.

[amusingduck]

That uncut video is doctored, it's completely fake! Look at my video that cuts every few seconds and has no sound, get fact checked sucka!

The desperation in here is gobsmacking. Concerning, actually.

[paulguitar]

Four Litre said:

God he looks terrible doesn't he, poor guy. My FIL sadly has developed dementia and I can see the same look, mannerisms etc. That haunting stare and the stiff unnatural body movements. Sad to watch.

Don't pretend that you care about his well-being. All you've ever done on this thread is spread bullst/childish doctored videos about him.

[Four Litre]

paulguitar said:

Four Litre said:

God he looks terrible doesn't he, poor guy. My FIL sadly has developed dementia and I can see the same look, mannerisms etc. That haunting stare and the stiff unnatural body movements. Sad to watch.

Don't pretend that you care about his well-being. All you've ever done on this thread is spread bullst/childish doctored videos about him.

Are you on drugs?

[paulguitar]

Four Litre said:

paulguitar said:

Four Litre said:

God he looks terrible doesn't he, poor guy. My FIL sadly has developed dementia and I can see the same look, mannerisms etc. That haunting stare and the stiff unnatural body movements. Sad to watch.

Don't pretend that you care about his well-being. All you've ever done on this thread is spread bullst/childish doctored videos about him.

Are you on drugs?

What a strange and irrelevant question.

I like a decent cabernet, but otherwise, no.

[RumbleOfThunder]

While there is a lot of disinfo from people incentivised to make Biden look bad, there is clearly a blindness and unwillingness from those on the opposite end of spectrum, who refuse accept he's a barely sentient zombie, and consider all evidence to the contrary as "fake".

[Mortarboard]

RumbleOfThunder said:

While there is a lot of disinfo from people incentivised to make Biden look bad, there is clearly a blindness and unwillingness from those on the opposite end of spectrum, who refuse accept he's a barely sentient zombie, and consider all evidence to the contrary as "fake".

Again, so it'll be a body double at the debates then?



M.

[paulguitar]

Mortarboard said:

RumbleOfThunder said:

While there is a lot of disinfo from people incentivised to make Biden look bad, there is clearly a blindness and unwillingness from those on the opposite end of spectrum, who refuse accept he's a barely sentient zombie, and consider all evidence to the contrary as "fake".

Again, so it'll be a body double at the debates then?



M.

Stuff like the State of the Union he seems fine. Other videos sometimes show him to look a bit doddery, but it's hard work knowing really because there are a lot of Twitter and YouTube accounts spreading doctored and carefully edited videos to show something either in a bad light or that isn't there at all. Some people on this and associated threads have shared some of those videos.


Referring to him as a 'barely sentient zombie' as in the post above, is childish and inaccurate.

[Mortarboard]

So when it's something high profile, with lots of news sources covering it etc., he seems perfectly fine. But when there's only a few sources, none major/independent etc, he acts old/doddery/"senile"?

Phunny dat.

M.

[paulguitar]

Mortarboard said:

So when it's something high profile, with lots of news sources covering it etc., he seems perfectly fine. But when there's only a few sources, none major/independent etc, he acts old/doddery/"senile"?

Phunny dat.

M.

According to trump and Hannity (and various other geniuses), he's being 'pumped with performance-enhancing drugs' for the big events.