45th President Of The United States, Donald Trump (Vol. 14)
Discussion
thatsprettyshady said:
The civil war was a big part of American history, why erase it?
Who's erasing it? It's strawmanning the local council's decision to rename the park and remove the statue commemorating a racist insurrectionist because the locals are fed up looking at it as a redraft of history books, which it isn't. thatsprettyshady said:
Take the Gaza protests going on right now and previously.
I have had friends go to those marches protesting a genocide in Gaza, I would consider those people fine.
Certain elements of that crowd just hate Jewish people and they use anti-Semitic chants/slogans.
They mix together and they are in the same spaces, but they are not the same.
And if the protest march was organized by ISIS and "friends of hamas inc", would you still consider them "fine"?I have had friends go to those marches protesting a genocide in Gaza, I would consider those people fine.
Certain elements of that crowd just hate Jewish people and they use anti-Semitic chants/slogans.
They mix together and they are in the same spaces, but they are not the same.
Unite the right was organized by kessler:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Kessler
M.
hidetheelephants said:
thatsprettyshady said:
The civil war was a big part of American history, why erase it?
Who's erasing it? It's strawmanning the local council's decision to rename the park and remove the statue commemorating a racist insurrectionist because the locals are fed up looking at it as a redraft of history books, which it isn't. thatsprettyshady said:
hidetheelephants said:
thatsprettyshady said:
The civil war was a big part of American history, why erase it?
Who's erasing it? It's strawmanning the local council's decision to rename the park and remove the statue commemorating a racist insurrectionist because the locals are fed up looking at it as a redraft of history books, which it isn't. thatsprettyshady said:
People should be allowed to protest what they want, there’s nothing wrong with that as long as it doesn’t turn into hate.
Not sure that’s accurate. Should all the paedos be allowed to protest to support their position? Or murderers being allowed to protest that they should be allowed to commit murder freely.
I know that’s a ridiculous, but that’s what you’re claiming.
LF5335 said:
thatsprettyshady said:
People should be allowed to protest what they want, there’s nothing wrong with that as long as it doesn’t turn into hate.
Not sure that’s accurate. Should all the paedos be allowed to protest to support their position? Or murderers being allowed to protest that they should be allowed to commit murder freely.
I know that’s a ridiculous, but that’s what you’re claiming.
If that wasn't the case then being gay would still be illegal.
98elise said:
LF5335 said:
thatsprettyshady said:
People should be allowed to protest what they want, there’s nothing wrong with that as long as it doesn’t turn into hate.
Not sure that’s accurate. Should all the paedos be allowed to protest to support their position? Or murderers being allowed to protest that they should be allowed to commit murder freely.
I know that’s a ridiculous, but that’s what you’re claiming.
If that wasn't the case then being gay would still be illegal.
If all the far right did was march with a bit of hootin' and a hollerin' then they could do that all day and we'd just ignore them like the fools they are.
The problem with the far right is that violence to achieve political aims is not just considered acceptable, it's considered a first resort. It's called "direct action" and is a key tenet of Fascism. Where the far right goes, violence often follows.
If we're talking about Islamists (who are also, notably far right) we'd call that terrorism.
Speed 3 said:
Wow. ChocolateFrog said:
I assume there's much less derision and mockery when you suggest Trump will get in in November if you suggest it now rather than 6 months ago?
Odds must be narrowing considerably surely. OR, this being pushed that much closer to the election will make more people remember to vote against him at the time?
p1stonhead said:
Odds must be narrowing considerably surely.
They’ve not changed since directly after the debate. All this stuff in the last 24 hours might actually be a wake up call to some folk, a bit like Roe vs Wade. Still a loooong way to go until November, I’m not really sure why they had that debate so early.p1stonhead said:
ChocolateFrog said:
I assume there's much less derision and mockery when you suggest Trump will get in in November if you suggest it now rather than 6 months ago?
Odds must be narrowing considerably surely. OR, this being pushed that much closer to the election will make more people remember to vote against him at the time?
In my mind, it's another hail Mary attempt. But still needs to be reviewed, no matter how asinine. But assuming it's decided "immunity not applicable, etc", then sentencing in the middle of September is bad for trump. No ti.e to have appeal heard before November.
M.
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