45th President Of The United States, Donald Trump (Vol. 14)

45th President Of The United States, Donald Trump (Vol. 14)

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thatsprettyshady

4,567 posts

180 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2024
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captain_cynic

15,068 posts

110 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2024
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98elise said:
LF5335 said:
thatsprettyshady said:
People should be allowed to protest what they want, there’s nothing wrong with that as long as it doesn’t turn into hate.
Not sure that’s accurate.

Should all the paedos be allowed to protest to support their position? Or murderers being allowed to protest that they should be allowed to commit murder freely.

I know that’s a ridiculous, but that’s what you’re claiming.
It's right though. People should be free to protest for anything they want, even if you personally disagree with it.

If that wasn't the case then being gay would still be illegal.
The key word is peaceful.

If all the far right did was march with a bit of hootin' and a hollerin' then they could do that all day and we'd just ignore them like the fools they are.

The problem with the far right is that violence to achieve political aims is not just considered acceptable, it's considered a first resort. It's called "direct action" and is a key tenet of Fascism. Where the far right goes, violence often follows.

If we're talking about Islamists (who are also, notably far right) we'd call that terrorism.

LF5335

7,443 posts

58 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2024
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98elise said:
It's right though. People should be free to protest for anything they want, even if you personally disagree with it.

If that wasn't the case then being gay would still be illegal.
Nope. There is a line that shouldn’t be crossed.

Speed 3

5,055 posts

134 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2024
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Sentencing delayed to September by Merchan....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0xj1q47l22o

p1stonhead

27,656 posts

182 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2024
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Speed 3 said:
Sentencing delayed to September by Merchan....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0xj1q47l22o
Wow.


paulguitar

29,917 posts

128 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2024
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It'll be dropped.


This is some of the craziest stuff that I've seen in my lifetime.




p1stonhead

27,656 posts

182 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2024
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Apparently the argument is that some of the evidence used during the trial would have been considered as being done in official capacity so due to the SCOTUS ruling the evidence should have never been allowed in the trial to begin with.

Staggering.

ChocolateFrog

31,663 posts

188 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2024
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I assume there's much less derision and mockery when you suggest Trump will get in in November if you suggest it now rather than 6 months ago?


p1stonhead

27,656 posts

182 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2024
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ChocolateFrog said:
I assume there's much less derision and mockery when you suggest Trump will get in in November if you suggest it now rather than 6 months ago?
Odds must be narrowing considerably surely.

OR, this being pushed that much closer to the election will make more people remember to vote against him at the time?

Pincher

9,390 posts

232 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2024
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I wish I could find and quote my post where I said I was calling a Trump win months ago.

And who I had a charitable bet with, that Trump would be the Republican candidate.

hidetheelephants

30,121 posts

208 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2024
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98elise said:
It's right though. People should be free to protest for anything they want, even if you personally disagree with it.

If that wasn't the case then being gay would still be illegal.

ScotHill

3,688 posts

124 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2024
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p1stonhead said:
Odds must be narrowing considerably surely.
They’ve not changed since directly after the debate. All this stuff in the last 24 hours might actually be a wake up call to some folk, a bit like Roe vs Wade. Still a loooong way to go until November, I’m not really sure why they had that debate so early.

Mortarboard

9,661 posts

70 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2024
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p1stonhead said:
ChocolateFrog said:
I assume there's much less derision and mockery when you suggest Trump will get in in November if you suggest it now rather than 6 months ago?
Odds must be narrowing considerably surely.

OR, this being pushed that much closer to the election will make more people remember to vote against him at the time?
Yeah, I'm not sure this helps Trump.

In my mind, it's another hail Mary attempt. But still needs to be reviewed, no matter how asinine. But assuming it's decided "immunity not applicable, etc", then sentencing in the middle of September is bad for trump. No ti.e to have appeal heard before November.

M.

LF5335

7,443 posts

58 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2024
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This goes two ways

Trump wins and all the worst case scenario doomsday stuff becomes reality

Biden wins. The whole US landscape changes and fundamental changes are made to ensure that nobody can ever become king or dictator and everyone is answerable for their actions.

anonymous-user

69 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2024
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Yesterday's ludicrous decision by the Supreme Court, while terrible for democracy, was a godsend for the Biden campaign. Many people who were discouraged by the debate are now energized by this.

Keep your eye on the prize. Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin. If Biden wins those 3 states he's re elected.

p1stonhead

27,656 posts

182 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2024
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LF5335 said:
This goes two ways

Trump wins and all the worst case scenario doomsday stuff becomes reality

Biden wins. The whole US landscape changes and fundamental changes are made to ensure that nobody can ever become king or dictator and everyone is answerable for their actions.
Maybe he should get on that now before the election….

Speed 3

5,055 posts

134 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2024
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LF5335 said:
This goes two ways

Trump wins and all the worst case scenario doomsday stuff becomes reality

Biden wins. The whole US landscape changes and fundamental changes are made to ensure that nobody can ever become king or dictator and everyone is answerable for their actions.
That would depend on the makeup of Congress, not just the President.

LF5335

7,443 posts

58 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2024
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Speed 3 said:
That would depend on the makeup of Congress, not just the President.
Not really the President can do what he wants and nobody can question it.

dobbo_

14,618 posts

263 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2024
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ChocolateFrog said:
I assume there's much less derision and mockery when you suggest Trump will get in in November if you suggest it now rather than 6 months ago?
See this post, right here, is a perfect example of the problems with political discourse.

Nobody derided, or mocked those that were saying Trump would win. They simply said that they didn't believe it was likely.

But you come along going "oh derision and mockery" because you're looking to stir up trouble. It's transparent, and pathetic.

Somebody giving a counter argument is not derision, or mockery.





Speed 3

5,055 posts

134 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2024
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LF5335 said:
Speed 3 said:
That would depend on the makeup of Congress, not just the President.
Not really the President can do what he wants and nobody can question it.
If Trump yes, Biden wouldn't operate the same way.

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