45th President Of The United States, Donald Trump (Vol. 14)

45th President Of The United States, Donald Trump (Vol. 14)

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TonyToniTone

3,858 posts

264 months

Saturday 29th June 2024
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Byker28i said:
Pretty sure a teleprompter does change a performance from slow an methodical to more enthusiastic and energetic.
The teleprompter obviously helps him keep on track.

Slow yes, losing his train of thought, mumbling bordering on gibberish, and being unable to fact check is not methodical - but this isn't the 46th thread..

TonyToniTone

3,858 posts

264 months

Saturday 29th June 2024
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LF5335 said:
The Trumpettes really have come out in force over the last few days.
Aww... must be awful having slightly different opinions not toeing the line.

LF5335 said:
I remain as always massively concerned that Trump could get re-elected and Thursday’s events have scared me even more.

Can’t wait to see what happens on sentencing day though. Wonder what nonsense will be screamed by the Trumpettes on here then.
I am sure he will get less than he deserves, and people will be rightly arguing the other way.

LF5335

7,443 posts

58 months

Saturday 29th June 2024
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Gecko1978 said:
Mate trump is a bad man but him being bad does not mean Biden is fit. Perhaps both should be replaced, if that doesn't happen then it's liar or a senile old man
I have said all along that Biden isn’t the ideal candidate. However, there is a difference between showing balanced concern over either / both candidates compared to the joyous gloating of many rare posters on this and the Biden thread. At the same time that they gloat that Biden is fumbling, they ignore the incoherent ramblings of their man, such as sharks vs electric boats and the latest nonsense about electric planes and the sun not shining while flying.

Trump is an utter disgrace, Biden isn’t ideal. There is a world of difference just in that short sentence. To think Trump is a better candidate due to one poor debate from Biden is ridiculous

Unreal

7,043 posts

40 months

Saturday 29th June 2024
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The "one poor debate" was the culmination of what people have been saying for years but have always been shouted down.

Biden is in rapid decline. That's just a fact. Another is that Trump is a proper ahole.

The current relaining question is whether Biden can beat Trump. I doubt it at this stage.

Bonefish Blues

31,802 posts

238 months

Saturday 29th June 2024
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Unreal said:
The "one poor debate" was the culmination of what people have been saying for years but have always been shouted down.

Biden is in rapid decline. That's just a fact. Another is that Trump is a proper ahole.

The current remaining question is whether Biden can beat Trump. I doubt it at this stage.
He probably still could, but it's simply too much of a gamble, given the stakes if he fails.

Byker28i

75,011 posts

232 months

Saturday 29th June 2024
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thatsprettyshady said:
Byker, I know this is the Trump thread, but he didn't mention Trump once. Your cries of "but Trump" are just as bad as his posting "but Biden" - do you have any thoughts on what he actually said? Feel free to post them in the 46th thread if you want?
Not allowed, the anti trump lot had me banned about 3 years ago

Byker28i

75,011 posts

232 months

Saturday 29th June 2024
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Wheelspinning said:
When you resort to namecalling, labels or swearwords, you have lost any credibility to the point you are trying to make.

Really...you and the others should give it a go.
Who's name calling and throwing the insults around?

Wheelspinning said:
I cannot believe that the hard-core 12 or so on here are still coming out with the same postings that made this thread a toxic echo chamber.

Byker28i

75,011 posts

232 months

Saturday 29th June 2024
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cgt2 said:
Mortarboard said:
No, but dumping biden now would be insanity.
"He's old" is all the gop have at the moment.

Dump biden and it's "his last three years were a disaster, even the dems agree, see?" "Not even the dens trust him" "who knows who'll you'll get, they'll change president after the election"

It's time for the democratic party to step up.

M.
It's a roll of the dice with very high stakes. Biden could win but I am frankly stunned at his obvious deterioration. This rally he gave later where he appeared jacked up was with a teleprompter. Much easier to read off a screen than actually have to think on the fly.

These polls shouldn't be within 20 points of each other. Biden should take the win and rightfully say he has been very consequential in domestic terms (and not mention his incompetence on foreign policy) then go chill on a beach.

What if Biden deteriorates further between now and November? He had so many open goals he completely missed in this debate. Killing a baby after birth is known as murder and last time I checked is illegal everywhere. Zero pushback. Donald Trump is the one with a Chinese bank account. If he didn't sleep with Stormy Daniels why is there a ton of evidence to the contrary? So many easy retorts that Biden missed. If he can't pick up on basic things like that what confidence does that give that he is capable of anything especially against a world class snake oil salesman.

Having older folks in my family the same age who were previously razor sharp and didn't miss a single thing I know it is an inevitable sign of ageing. People lose a step and miss very obvious things. Nothing to be ashamed of but no one cheats Father Time.

In any situation most people will try and minimise their risk and increase probability with the highest chance of success. Trump will likely be serving out some form of sentence in the near future. Anyone but a doddering old guy would be razor sharp in focusing on this weakness and effectively message the very clear and obvious contrast.

Democrats are playing with fire hoping it all works out against an opponent who is a masterful conman and is buried under a ton of legal trouble (with a lot more coming down the pike).

This should be an absolute landslide and could be with any Democrat but Biden. He may still squeak it out simply because of Trump's unpopularity but he has lost huge amounts of young voters since the start of this year and I have no doubt that performance the other night will turn yet more off. Why minimise your chances of success in a situation that should be an absolute lay up?

Surrogates such as Buttigieg, Newsom and Whitmer are far more effective, knowledgable and competent than the guy they are speaking for which is head scratchingly weird.
And yet I posted the who Biden rally footage from yesterday when he appears alert, on point, dynamic again, whilst trump was exactly the same, stumbling over words, couldn't string sentances together, losing track and pushing lie after lie.

trump does it all the time and apparently it's fine. Biden has a poor debate performance and suddenly the trumpettes say it's a major problem.

thatsprettyshady

4,579 posts

180 months

Saturday 29th June 2024
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Byker28i said:
thatsprettyshady said:
Byker, I know this is the Trump thread, but he didn't mention Trump once. Your cries of "but Trump" are just as bad as his posting "but Biden" - do you have any thoughts on what he actually said? Feel free to post them in the 46th thread if you want?
Not allowed, the anti trump lot had me banned about 3 years ago
Yikes, can’t they revisit that.

cgt2

7,249 posts

203 months

Saturday 29th June 2024
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Byker28i said:
And yet I posted the who Biden rally footage from yesterday when he appears alert, on point, dynamic again, whilst trump was exactly the same, stumbling over words, couldn't string sentances together, losing track and pushing lie after lie.

trump does it all the time and apparently it's fine. Biden has a poor debate performance and suddenly the trumpettes say it's a major problem.
Not to tout any conspiracies but if I have an employee who is lethargic, confused and bewildered one day then hyper the next I would ask them to take a drug test!

paulguitar

30,022 posts

128 months

Saturday 29th June 2024
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Wheelspinning said:
After the debate, I would envision that the appetite for legal cases against Trump shall diminish
Why should a poor debate performance from Biden affect in any way trump being held accountable by the justice department for his crimes?



wong

1,360 posts

231 months

Saturday 29th June 2024
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Wheelspinning said:
If Biden was your parent, you would be securing power of attorney, and removing all of the day to day responsibilities of running their own household and finacials, be arranging a 3 times a day carer to pop by and make sure all was good to try and ensure that they had no stresses.

You wouldn't consider for a minute pushing them to be a CEO of a huge multi-national, never mind as the President of the USA.
If Trump was my father, I'd be getting a court order to make sure he stays away from my wife and daughter; changing my surname and distance myself as much as possible from the fker.

egor110

17,503 posts

218 months

Saturday 29th June 2024
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wong said:
If Trump was my father, I'd be getting a court order to make sure he stays away from my wife and daughter; changing my surname and distance myself as much as possible from the fker.
Because they'd be really safe around creepy joe .

Only last year he asked a 6 year old girl if she was 17 .

paulguitar

30,022 posts

128 months

Saturday 29th June 2024
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egor110 said:
Because they'd be really safe around creepy joe .

Only last year he asked a 6 year old girl if she was 17 .
I just looked that up.

If you think what was going on there was in any way 'creepy', you're completely out to lunch.



Byker28i

75,011 posts

232 months

Saturday 29th June 2024
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Just again shows the trumpettes think trump can't win against Biden again

Biden has one poor performance and suddenly they claim Bidens past it, yet his policies have moved the US forward.

Yet trump demonstrates his mental decline at every rally, his complete unsuitability as lotus again, yet somehow that's fine. Hundreds or more of reported incidents captured on camera this year alone.

Then manufactured false claims. I can't remember Biden being accused of raping a 13 year old, having multiple NDAs to keep people quiet, or paying off witnesses, nor making sexual comments about a daughter, repeated comments that his chief of staff had to tell him to stop.

Just shows how scared they are of Biden I guess.

Petrus1983

10,403 posts

177 months

Saturday 29th June 2024
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Byker28i said:
Just again shows the trumpettes think trump can't win against Biden again

Biden has one poor performance and suddenly they claim Bidens past it, yet his policies have moved the US forward.

Yet trump demonstrates his mental decline at every rally, his complete unsuitability as lotus again, yet somehow that's fine. Hundreds or more of reported incidents captured on camera this year alone.

Then manufactured false claims. I can't remember Biden being accused of raping a 13 year old, having multiple NDAs to keep people quiet, or paying off witnesses, nor making sexual comments about a daughter, repeated comments that his chief of staff had to tell him to stop.

Just shows how scared they are of Biden I guess.
I know and appreciate you don't like Trump, but surely you have to admit that if they don't switch Joe out then there's a very real chance he's going to be the next President.

BigMon

5,230 posts

144 months

Saturday 29th June 2024
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As much as I loathe Trump and think he should be in prison for inciting\attempting to incite insurrection, even I can admit that the other night was a utter disaster for Biden and Trump came out of it far better.

It pains me to say it, but all Biden is is an electoral asset for Trump. I have no idea what the answer is, but letting Biden continue to run isn't it.

Bonefish Blues

31,802 posts

238 months

Saturday 29th June 2024
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BigMon said:
As much as I loathe Trump and think he should be in prison for inciting\attempting to incite insurrection, even I can admit that the other night was a utter disaster for Biden and Trump came out of it far better.

It pains me to say it, but all Biden is is an electoral asset for Trump. I have no idea what the answer is, but letting Biden continue to run isn't it.
Yes, this is the very best possible outcome for Trump as it stands.

anonymous-user

69 months

Saturday 29th June 2024
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Byker28i said:
Just again shows the trumpettes think trump can't win against Biden again

Biden has one poor performance and suddenly they claim Bidens past it, yet his policies have moved the US forward.
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Is the NYT who are now calling for Biden to stand aside one of the 'trumpettes'? Or Morning Joe, who you previously have quoted many times, who seems to be calling for the same thing?

It's the people who are prepared to try and gaslight themselves by suggesting the debate was just "one poor performance" from Biden who are going to let Trump walk into back into the White House.

thatsprettyshady

4,579 posts

180 months

Saturday 29th June 2024
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EddieSteadyGo said:
Byker28i said:
Just again shows the trumpettes think trump can't win against Biden again

Biden has one poor performance and suddenly they claim Bidens past it, yet his policies have moved the US forward.
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Is the NYT who are now calling for Biden to stand aside one of the 'trumpettes'? Or Morning Joe, who you previously have quoted many times, who seems to be calling for the same thing?

It's the people who are prepared to try and gaslight themselves by suggesting the debate was just "one poor performance" from Biden who are going to let Trump walk into back into the White House.
It's one down from this:


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