45th President Of The United States, Donald Trump (Vol. 14)

[paulguitar]

Wheelspinning said:

Must have been Trump that caused his outrageous actions at the D-day celebrations the other week

Which 'outrageous actions'?

Wheelspinning said:

For the posters who stated that Trump would duck this debate, do you feel that Trump shall duck the next one, or shall Biden duck the next one?

I didn't think trump would duck this debate.

[h0b0]

I’m going along with other posters and hope the die hard crew here open their eyes. For too long any criticism of Biden has been met with “Trumpette” insults.

If I say Biden is unfit for office, as I have for years, it’s not to support Trump! It’s to point out that the democrats need to do better. The democrat lies about fake news editing just isn’t good enough.

Well, it’s too late. They can’t replace Biden and win. They missed that opportunity. If they do it now it will be a party admitting their President isn’t fit for the job and then putting someone new into the mix. That would be a President (Trump) vs a new face. 100% fail.

For those saying Biden doesn’t need to be able to talk coherently to be president. Come on. Most on here hate Trump but Biden lost the election last night by confirming what many already knew.

[Superflow]

Challo said:

Superflow said:

It could with voter fraud.

Naive to think all immigrants will play by the rules and wait for citizenship to arrive.

You know the voter fraud topic was debunked in the courts several times after the last election, and it was the GOP found guilty of using fake electors to win the race.

Those courts that said the jurors don’t have to all agree to convict Trump because we will just move the goalposts to get the result we want even if that means weaponising the US justice system.

Yes I know.

[Mortarboard]

The world got spoiled a bit with Obama, he is such a slick orator

If you get a chance to see the footage of him speaking in Boston after the Boston marathon bombings, really shows speaking at its best.

M.

[Four Litre]

Blackpuddin said:

paulguitar said:

Four Litre said:

Paulguitar - forget Trump and focus on the thread.

This is the trump thread!

Four Litre said:

Do you think Biden is suitable to carry on as the president of the USA, simple yes / no answer.

As a person leading a large team, in the short term, yes. He seemed fine a couple of hours later, just unable to do that under the jetstream of lies and lunacy he was facing.

This is how I see it. I believe Biden is more than capable of leading the country when he is operating in a normal office environment and assisted by a good team. That's what's important. He shouldn't be binned off just because he can't think straight when confronted by a gibbering loon like trump. I know for a fact that I would be the same in that situation and I bet that most normal people, if they were being honest, would be in the same boat.

Wow - I can only assume you have zero knowledge of how corporations run and the effect their leaders have on their value.

[DanL]

Blackpuddin said:

This is how I see it. I believe Biden is more than capable of leading the country when he is operating in a normal office environment and assisted by a good team. That's what's important. He shouldn't be binned off just because he can't think straight when confronted by a gibbering loon like trump. I know for a fact that I would be the same in that situation and I bet that most normal people, if they were being honest, would be in the same boat.

Disagree - he’s going to have to make decisions under high pressure day after day, and may have to make a critical decision at short notice (whether to launch or not, for example!).

I don’t now want either of these men in that position, although I’d choose Biden over Trump given these are the current options.

[CivicDuties]

DeejRC said:

CivicDuties said:

DeejRC said:

CivicDuties said:

Amazing how all the Trump fans have suddenly burst forth from the skirting boards.

Go on then, who? Name them…

I can think of 1 maybe 1.5 names on her since the debate last night that might be Trump “fan”. So which posters are you considering these bursting forth Trump fans?

I'm sure you're as able to read people's posts, and read between the lines, as I am.

So, go on then - name them?
I’ve got Superflow down as the 1 and Wheelspinning down as .5. Who else is on your list as bursting forth since last night?

Is 2 not sufficient to count as bursting forth? I do apologize. I can't say I recognized those names when they popped up this morning, hence the feeling some folk had been feeling emboldened to get excited.

What are you being so defensive about?

[cqueen]

The fact that people are only now realising how bad Biden has become, just goes to show how good a job the media have done in covering up for him all this time.

[raftom]

Mortarboard said:

It's the floating voters. And despite all the "old man joe" stuff, there wasn't anything last night that would encourage a floating voter either way. Could be a very low turnout election.

And despite any gop crowing, low turnout is bad for the gop- very bad.

It's even worse than a low turnout:

Undecided voter focus group leans toward Trump after debate

article said:

Why it matters: The 2024 presidential election will be decided by roughly 6% of voters in key swing states.

Driving the news: Of 14 voters from Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona, Michigan, Nevada and North Carolina, 12 said the debate made them lean toward electing Trump, one toward Biden and one remained undecided.

Nine of the participants said they voted for Biden in 2020.

This is the problem.

[Kowalski655]

stuckmojo said:

....... The Dems deserve better (and so does the US)

"Hello, Senator Sanders, DNC here. Yeah, I know we fked you over twice before,but can you please, pretty please, come and save America?"

[h0b0]

Kowalski655 said:

stuckmojo said:

....... The Dems deserve better (and so does the US)

"Hello, Senator Sanders, DNC here. Yeah, I know we fked you over twice before,but can you please, pretty please, come and save America?"

The 82 year old Sanders is going to solve the problem with electing old people?

[Mortarboard]

raftom said:

Mortarboard said:

It's the floating voters. And despite all the "old man joe" stuff, there wasn't anything last night that would encourage a floating voter either way. Could be a very low turnout election.

And despite any gop crowing, low turnout is bad for the gop- very bad.

It's even worse than a low turnout:

Undecided voter focus group leans toward Trump after debate

article said:

Why it matters: The 2024 presidential election will be decided by roughly 6% of voters in key swing states.

Driving the news: Of 14 voters from Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona, Michigan, Nevada and North Carolina, 12 said the debate made them lean toward electing Trump, one toward Biden and one remained undecided.

Nine of the participants said they voted for Biden in 2020.

This is the problem.

Don't disagree that following that debate, neutrals may lean for trump- but leaning and voting are two different things.

If voter turnout is low, the gop lose all over the place. Remember the "red wave" that didn't happen?

Time for the democrats to step up and campaign. They've been quiet so far.

M.

[Kowalski655]

Look at his recent speeches on Israel, more with it than both the others.

[gregs656]

Mortarboard said:

Don't disagree that following that debate, neutrals may lean for trump- but leaning and voting are two different things.

If voter turnout is low, the gop lose all over the place. Remember the "red wave" that didn't happen?

Time for the democrats to step up and campaign. They've been quiet so far.

M.

I think we spoke before about wholesale voter apathy. It has felt for some time that Biden and Trump are not good representatives.

[ScotHill]

Superflow said:

Those courts that said the jurors don’t have to all agree to convict Trump because we will just move the goalposts to get the result we want even if that means weaponising the US justice system.

They did have to all agree to convict, but then you know that, you're not an idiot:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/fals...

Who is 'we' in your statement above, because it isn't the Democrats.

[Mortarboard]

gregs656 said:

Mortarboard said:

Don't disagree that following that debate, neutrals may lean for trump- but leaning and voting are two different things.

If voter turnout is low, the gop lose all over the place. Remember the "red wave" that didn't happen?

Time for the democrats to step up and campaign. They've been quiet so far.

M.

I think we spoke before about wholesale voter apathy. It has felt for some time that Biden and Trump are not good representatives.

Yup, two very poor candidates.

But in terns of voter apathy, floating voters will be least likely to vote, followed by gop, then dem.

The democrats are very, very good at getting "their" vote out. Low turnout favors the blue side- as is shown by the gerrymandering and voter interference pursued non-stop in red areas.

M.

[Bonefish Blues]

Mortarboard said:

gregs656 said:

Mortarboard said:

Don't disagree that following that debate, neutrals may lean for trump- but leaning and voting are two different things.

If voter turnout is low, the gop lose all over the place. Remember the "red wave" that didn't happen?

Time for the democrats to step up and campaign. They've been quiet so far.

M.

I think we spoke before about wholesale voter apathy. It has felt for some time that Biden and Trump are not good representatives.

Yup, two very poor candidates.

But in terns of voter apathy, floating voters will be least likely to vote, followed by gop, then dem.

The democrats are very, very good at getting "their" vote out. Low turnout favors the blue side- as is shown by the gerrymandering and voter interference pursued non-stop in red areas.

M.

Katty was raising an eyebrow at how confident the Democrats' team was about their ability to mobilise their vote, based on the awful hash they'd made of this showpiece event.

[Killboy]

h0b0 said:

The 82 year old Sanders is going to solve the problem with electing old people?

He'd wipe the floor with with these two.

[EddieSteadyGo]

Killboy said:

He'd wipe the floor with with these two.

[Mortarboard]

Bonefish Blues said:

Katty was raising an eyebrow at how confident the Democrats' team was about their ability to mobilise their vote, based on the awful hash they'd made of this showpiece event.

Two very different things.

Dems aren't (in the main) voting for Joe, theyre voting to keep a lunatic out.

Same with many/most floating voters. Trump isn't "winning" votes with his policies, or track record.

M.