45th President Of The United States, Donald Trump (Vol. 14)
Discussion
Al Gorithum said:
At the moment the choice seems to be about electing a doddery old geeza who cares about Americans and has a great track record, versus a slightly less doddery old geeza who's a felon, bankrupt, sex offender etc who only cares about himself and doesn't have a great track record.
It should be a no-brainer...
It should be a no-brainer...
Barack Obama said:
"Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f... things up."
Really not sure about this claim of Biden having a great track record over his career. LF5335 said:
Unreal said:
Let's way and see then. One of the characteristics of old people can be extreme obstinacy. Step 1 will be Joe admitting he needs to go. That may be the hardest step.
You do realise that both candidates are old. I posted a few weeks back I couldn't wait for this debate, and last night was the reason why.
How so many have turned a blind eye on here to all of his gaffes, mumbling, forgetting what he is talking about, getting lost on stage etc etc etc and trying to pass it off as fake or altered footage has come home to roost.
I would be very surprised if he turned up for another debate.
The faithful dozen on here can post whatever they want about Trump being a felon, a liar, bad dancer, poor clothes etc, but last night's debate put all of that into the background and showed Biden as someone who is not fit to be a current President, never mind the next one.
Where are all of Bykers comedy pictures today that have been on here every day for weeks?
How so many have turned a blind eye on here to all of his gaffes, mumbling, forgetting what he is talking about, getting lost on stage etc etc etc and trying to pass it off as fake or altered footage has come home to roost.
I would be very surprised if he turned up for another debate.
The faithful dozen on here can post whatever they want about Trump being a felon, a liar, bad dancer, poor clothes etc, but last night's debate put all of that into the background and showed Biden as someone who is not fit to be a current President, never mind the next one.
Where are all of Bykers comedy pictures today that have been on here every day for weeks?
Eric Mc said:
Disaster for Biden.
He must step down.
As a vehement anti Trumpist, I would have to agree.He must step down.
I greatly admire how Biden has conducted himself in his career, but last night showed that he is a shadow of the man that was elected 4 years ago.
I was a bit shocked, at times, of how much he struggled.
I’d still pick him as president over Trump, but then I’d pick the s
t off my shoe before Trump. Edited by andyeds1234 on Friday 28th June 10:37
Wheelspinning said:
I posted a few weeks back I couldn't wait for this debate, and last night was the reason why.
How so many have turned a blind eye on here to all of his gaffes, mumbling, forgetting what he is talking about, getting lost on stage etc etc etc and trying to pass it off as fake or altered footage has come home to roost.
I would be very surprised if he turned up for another debate.
The faithful dozen on here can post whatever they want about Trump being a felon, a liar, bad dancer, poor clothes etc, but last night's debate put all of that into the background and showed Biden as someone who is not fit to be a current President, never mind the next one.
Where are all of Bykers comedy pictures today that have been on here every day for weeks?
Agreed. It was sad to watch. And it felt like a trap. Now even the most obstinate supporter of Biden (himsef in a rare moment of cognitive capability?) has to accept the truth. Trump made mince meat of him. And there's a colossal amount of staff to take Trump on with. How so many have turned a blind eye on here to all of his gaffes, mumbling, forgetting what he is talking about, getting lost on stage etc etc etc and trying to pass it off as fake or altered footage has come home to roost.
I would be very surprised if he turned up for another debate.
The faithful dozen on here can post whatever they want about Trump being a felon, a liar, bad dancer, poor clothes etc, but last night's debate put all of that into the background and showed Biden as someone who is not fit to be a current President, never mind the next one.
Where are all of Bykers comedy pictures today that have been on here every day for weeks?
Whatever has happened to the US? Also, this exposes the blatant bias of traditional media, who defended the indefensible for years. What else are they lying on?
Unreal said:
LF5335 said:
Unreal said:
Let's way and see then. One of the characteristics of old people can be extreme obstinacy. Step 1 will be Joe admitting he needs to go. That may be the hardest step.
You do realise that both candidates are old. That's really saying something!
Interesting to see Newsom on the news as a surrogate speaking for Biden.
Super articulate, super nuanced understanding of policy on a granular level (with numbers and facts reeled off from memory) and let's face it women will vote for him in huge numbers based on looks and charisma.
The answer is in plain sight. Trump will lose in a huge way to Newsom.
If Dems f*ck this up it is a purely self inflicted wound.
Super articulate, super nuanced understanding of policy on a granular level (with numbers and facts reeled off from memory) and let's face it women will vote for him in huge numbers based on looks and charisma.
The answer is in plain sight. Trump will lose in a huge way to Newsom.
If Dems f*ck this up it is a purely self inflicted wound.
stuckmojo said:
Agreed. It was sad to watch. And it felt like a trap. Now even the most obstinate supporter of Biden (himsef in a rare moment of cognitive capability?) has to accept the truth. Trump made mince meat of him. And there's a colossal amount of staff to take Trump on with.
Whatever has happened to the US? Also, this exposes the blatant bias of traditional media, who defended the indefensible for years. What else are they lying on?
The sad thing is that exposing the situation, reporting on it and discussing it allows solutions to be thought about sooner.Whatever has happened to the US? Also, this exposes the blatant bias of traditional media, who defended the indefensible for years. What else are they lying on?
It's almost as if there's been a sea change in the media attitude after last night, like some kind of revelation.
The daft thing is that last night's 'debate' shows us nothing new about either candidate, nothing that hasn't been evident for months or years.
It's so stupid!
cgt2 said:
Interesting to see Newsom on the news as a surrogate speaking for Biden.
Super articulate, super nuanced understanding of policy on a granular level (with numbers and facts reeled off from memory) and let's face it women will vote for him in huge numbers based on looks and charisma.
The answer is in plain sight. Trump will lose in a huge way to Newsom.
If Dems f*ck this up it is a purely self inflicted wound.
Yep, been shouting about him for months. He wins - easy. He helped prepare Biden, and is still being very overtly loyal, but he'd be a rat up a drainpipe given an opportunity, and bloody good job too.Super articulate, super nuanced understanding of policy on a granular level (with numbers and facts reeled off from memory) and let's face it women will vote for him in huge numbers based on looks and charisma.
The answer is in plain sight. Trump will lose in a huge way to Newsom.
If Dems f*ck this up it is a purely self inflicted wound.
cgt2 said:
Interesting to see Newsom on the news as a surrogate speaking for Biden.
Super articulate, super nuanced understanding of policy on a granular level (with numbers and facts reeled off from memory) and let's face it women will vote for him in huge numbers based on looks and charisma.
The answer is in plain sight. Trump will lose in a huge way to Newsom.
If Dems f*ck this up it is a purely self inflicted wound.
Newsom is busy destroying California right now. He’s also facing a second recall vote in a very blue state. On the other hand, he’s another disastrous pretty boy Trudeau type, so he’ll get the airhead vote at least. Super articulate, super nuanced understanding of policy on a granular level (with numbers and facts reeled off from memory) and let's face it women will vote for him in huge numbers based on looks and charisma.
The answer is in plain sight. Trump will lose in a huge way to Newsom.
If Dems f*ck this up it is a purely self inflicted wound.
Edited by Beati Dogu on Friday 28th June 11:12
cgt2 said:
Trump will lose in a huge way to Newsom.
Newsom would be able to call out Trump's lies and inaccuracies during a debate, like a real time fact checker. He'd have the energy to respond to Trump's attacks in a meaningful way. This is what is needed!
Trump would also have to think of new criticisms to aim at him and could no longer rely on well-worn attacks, which would take a lot of the energy out of Trump's argument.
He wouldn't get embroiled in stupid arguments with Trump about who was better at golf either!
stuckmojo said:
I know this is the Orange Man Bad thread, but Newsom?
Have you asked anyone in California and outside it how they feel about him? I might be wrong of course.
I posted this on the Biden thread but it attempts to answer your Q.Have you asked anyone in California and outside it how they feel about him? I might be wrong of course.
hidetheelephants said:
Probable leading contenders would be the democrat governors in purple states like Andy Beshear, Gretchen Whitmer, Josh Shapiro etc. as they have proven appeal to swing voters, track records of getting elected and running a state. Newsome gets mentioned a lot and has name recognition but as governor of California his ability to appeal to swing voters is less proven.
hidetheelephants said:
stuckmojo said:
I know this is the Orange Man Bad thread, but Newsom?
Have you asked anyone in California and outside it how they feel about him? I might be wrong of course.
I posted this on the Biden thread but it attempts to answer your Q.Have you asked anyone in California and outside it how they feel about him? I might be wrong of course.
hidetheelephants said:
Probable leading contenders would be the democrat governors in purple states like Andy Beshear, Gretchen Whitmer, Josh Shapiro etc. as they have proven appeal to swing voters, track records of getting elected and running a state. Newsome gets mentioned a lot and has name recognition but as governor of California his ability to appeal to swing voters is less proven.
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