45th President Of The United States, Donald Trump (Vol. 14)

[PurplePenguin]

skwdenyer said:

PurplePenguin said:

skwdenyer said:

PurplePenguin said:

hidetheelephants said:

PurplePenguin said:

Bonefish Blues said:

Anyone watching live?

Yes - Biden is terrible

He's not sparkling for sure, TFG is doing his usual "greatest hits" which are mostly bks, although he seems very muted. Either drugged or his handlers have actually persuaded him to not act like the titanic bigot he is normally.

I think it’s quite sad - it’s obvious Biden is not with it

Are we watching the same debate? I see nothing that suggests "Biden is not with it." Do you have specific examples you think show otherwise? He's not a great orator in this environment, his speech impediment doesn't work to his advantage.

We are obviously not watching the same debate - a “speech impediment” yeh right

Trump is now accusing Biden of lying about his golf handicap - because Biden can't be allowed to be a good a Trump at golf - and then has the audacity to say "let's not behave like children."

Biden is stumbling over his words. Does that make him "not with it"? I will agree that Biden looks and sounds tired; Trump at this stage in his presidency also looked and sounded tired. I think Biden should retire. But I don't think somebody who stumbles over their words is inherently "not with it."

And now Trump is saying he'll only accept the outcome of a "good election."

I don’t know how you can watch the debate and think Biden is “with it” - it’s obvious the lights are on but nobody is at home.

Edited by PurplePenguin on Friday 28th June 03:42

[InformationSuperHighway]

It’s a train wreck.


We’re seeing the worst of both of them.

Lots of talk on X and Threads about a ‘hot swap’ of Biden for someone else.

[Bonefish Blues]

He obviously is, but the delivery is awful I'm afraid.

[Bonefish Blues]

I think Joe must step aside now

[PurplePenguin]

Bonefish Blues said:

I think Joe must step aside now

For his own well-being

[dvs_dave]

Biden’s performance was poor. Trump spouted a constant stream of bks.

No one will be changing their minds off the back of this.

[PurplePenguin]

How any one thinks Biden is fit to be the next leader of the free world is incredulous

[hidetheelephants]

The "Lie" rant is one giant tell, every bit of it applies to him rather than Biden.

[InformationSuperHighway]

dvs_dave said:

Biden’s performance was poor. Trump spouted a constant stream of bks.

No one will be changing their minds off the back of this.

There will be undecided voters watching this and now face the choice of choosing their favourite flavor of st sandwich.

It won’t be a choice of who they prefer. It’s choosing who they want less and then voting the other way (or staying at home).

If you think in this context, Biden may well do better with undecided voters.
Biden is old but at least he isn’t a liar etc..

[PurplePenguin]

InformationSuperHighway said:

dvs_dave said:

Biden’s performance was poor. Trump spouted a constant stream of bks.

No one will be changing their minds off the back of this.

There will be undecided voters watching this and now face the choice of choosing their favourite flavor of st sandwich.

It won’t be a choice of who they prefer. It’s choosing who they want less and then voting the other way (or staying at home).

If you think in this context, Biden may well do better with undecided voters.
Biden is old but at least he isn’t a liar etc..

Really? Biden’s performance is terrible

Edited by PurplePenguin on Friday 28th June 03:56

[PurplePenguin]

Biden - “we provided thousands of millions of jobs”

[hidetheelephants]

Fortunately fluent off-the-cuff speechifying isn't a vital function of a president, otherwise I'd agree. I can't see swing voters being moved much by this, TFG delivered exactly what he delivers at his rallies, glib lies, and Biden was stuttery. No new data.

[PurplePenguin]

hidetheelephants said:

Fortunately fluent off-the-cuff speechifying isn't a vital function of a president, otherwise I'd agree. I can't see swing voters being moved much by this, TFG delivered exactly what he delivers at his rallies, glib lies, and Biden was stuttery. No new data.

Awful performance by Biden

[hidetheelephants]

Excellent lying performance by TFG; he lied fluently throughout. He aced his cognitive tests again, he must be taking them twice a week so he can remember it and cheated at golf twice too.

Edited by hidetheelephants on Friday 28th June 04:05

[InformationSuperHighway]

PurplePenguin said:

InformationSuperHighway said:

dvs_dave said:

Biden’s performance was poor. Trump spouted a constant stream of bks.

No one will be changing their minds off the back of this.

There will be undecided voters watching this and now face the choice of choosing their favourite flavor of st sandwich.

It won’t be a choice of who they prefer. It’s choosing who they want less and then voting the other way (or staying at home).

If you think in this context, Biden may well do better with undecided voters.
Biden is old but at least he isn’t a liar etc..

Really? Biden’s performance is terrible

Edited by PurplePenguin on Friday 28th June 03:56

Indeed it was. No question.

He’s old, he stutters etc.

But if that’s the only thing bad about his performance tonight. The other guy did a lot worse.

[PurplePenguin]

hidetheelephants said:

Excellent lying performance by TFG; he lied fluently throughout. He aced his cognitive tests again, he must be taking them twice a week so he can remember it and cheated at golf twice too.

Edited by hidetheelephants on Friday 28th June 04:05

Do you think Biden is compos mentis?

[hidetheelephants]

Yes.

[PurplePenguin]

InformationSuperHighway said:

PurplePenguin said:

InformationSuperHighway said:

dvs_dave said:

Biden’s performance was poor. Trump spouted a constant stream of bks.

No one will be changing their minds off the back of this.

There will be undecided voters watching this and now face the choice of choosing their favourite flavor of st sandwich.

It won’t be a choice of who they prefer. It’s choosing who they want less and then voting the other way (or staying at home).

If you think in this context, Biden may well do better with undecided voters.
Biden is old but at least he isn’t a liar etc..

Really? Biden’s performance is terrible

Edited by PurplePenguin on Friday 28th June 03:56

Indeed it was. No question.

He’s old, he stutters etc.

But if that’s the only thing bad about his performance tonight. The other guy did a lot worse.

I don’t think he did - despite your wish

[PurplePenguin]

hidetheelephants said:

Yes.

Not sure if serious

[Bonefish Blues]

I think the optics were awful for Biden tonight. Trump won against the guy he was up against. Needs a warm handover and quickly, because polls will be brutal and I can't see how this is recoverable.

ETA
Mooch and Katty say it's possible it could be recovered. But not if the Biden campaign simply does more of the same, surely.

Edited by Bonefish Blues on Friday 28th June 04:28