45th President Of The United States, Donald Trump (Vol. 14)

[dvs_dave]

PinkHouse said:

In other news Trump is ahead in every single battleground state, hope you enjoy the upcoming debate too

Cute.

[Byker28i]

Mortarboard said:

Trump has to do the debate now, he's left it too late not to (unless he's trying to a "brave Sir Robin")

I do note his team are getting the excuses in early though.

M.

He does this every time.
He can't testify because he was gagged - he wasn't

Remember last year when trump said he wouldn't do the primary debates because was Fox is a “hostile network” to him, and can’t trust Bret Baier as a moderator because he was nasty, unfriendly, and never smiled when he interviewed him.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1673505207458893826

[Byker28i]

dvs_dave said:

PinkHouse said:

In other news Trump is ahead in every single battleground state, hope you enjoy the upcoming debate too

Cute.

Has to restrict it as the polls show Biden momentum and Biden ahead now after convicted felon trump was found guilty
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/preside...

[RustyMX5]

PinkHouse said:

LF5335 said:

PinkHouse said:

Yeah you got me, I've been waiting 5 years to savour this moment, my parents will be so proud. There must be a Pulitzer prize waiting for you somewhere

You clearly have a vivid imagination but your creative writing needs some work though

It is strange though. A totally dormant 5 year old account becomes active 2 years ago, immediately tries to start a contrarian style argument with two people in the first two threads it becomes active in. Then promptly changes username and then appears on here just at the point where it’s allowed.

Where are these dormant accounts for sale?

In other news Trump is ahead in every single battleground state, hope you enjoy the upcoming debate too

No he's not

[cayman-black]

Pink this is the anti Trump thread so dont waste your time here.

[off_again]

PinkHouse said:

In other news Trump is ahead in every single battleground state, hope you enjoy the upcoming debate too

Unfortunately that is just not true. Even Fox News had to admit that recent polling had Biden ahead.

The thing is that Professor Lichtman has already indicated that Biden is his favorite to win:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elect...

He's been right the last 9 times, and there is a lot that can go wrong before November, but his key indicators show that Biden is still the favorite to win, so lets see. I certainly dont have enough experience in this area, but if we have learned anything in the last 9-10 years of US politics, its that pollsters get it wrong frequently.

[PinkHouse]

Byker28i said:

dvs_dave said:

PinkHouse said:

In other news Trump is ahead in every single battleground state, hope you enjoy the upcoming debate too

Cute.

Has to restrict it as the polls show Biden momentum and Biden ahead now after convicted felon trump was found guilty
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/preside...

From the link you posted, the most recent national polls have Trump ahead by up to 3 points, unless I'm missing something here

[PinkHouse]

cayman-black said:

Pink this is the anti Trump thread so dont waste your time here.

Unfortunately seems to be that way. As soon as I post the indisputable facts that Trump is ahead in recent election and battleground polls, I get accused of the grave sin of having a 5 year old account which is baffling as I didn't realise that was somehow an insult. I can see why most others have stopped engaging as you can't really have any good discourse here so it's utterly pointless.

[PinkHouse]

off_again said:

PinkHouse said:

In other news Trump is ahead in every single battleground state, hope you enjoy the upcoming debate too

Unfortunately that is just not true. Even Fox News had to admit that recent polling had Biden ahead.

The thing is that Professor Lichtman has already indicated that Biden is his favorite to win:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elect...

He's been right the last 9 times, and there is a lot that can go wrong before November, but his key indicators show that Biden is still the favorite to win, so lets see. I certainly dont have enough experience in this area, but if we have learned anything in the last 9-10 years of US politics, its that pollsters get it wrong frequently.

As with all predictions, you're always right until you're not so I'm not sure how much he adds to the debate. It's as useful as the Octopus that used to predict World Cup match results

[Whoozit]

PinkHouse said:

Byker28i said:

dvs_dave said:

PinkHouse said:

In other news Trump is ahead in every single battleground state, hope you enjoy the upcoming debate too

Cute.

Has to restrict it as the polls show Biden momentum and Biden ahead now after convicted felon trump was found guilty
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/preside...

From the link you posted, the most recent national polls have Trump ahead by up to 3 points, unless I'm missing something here

True. The top three polls show Trump just ahead. That page which you partially snipped, has nine polls listed. Four of the others show Biden ahead, two at level pegging. However, look at the summary line chart above. That shows Biden ahead.

[Mortarboard]

PinkHouse said:

cayman-black said:

Pink this is the anti Trump thread so dont waste your time here.

Unfortunately seems to be that way. As soon as I post the indisputable facts that Trump is ahead in recent election and battleground polls, I get accused of the grave sin of having a 5 year old account which is baffling as I didn't realise that was somehow an insult. I can see why most others have stopped engaging as you can't really have any good discourse here so it's utterly pointless.

And yet, in the link you were given, aggregate shows Biden 0.3% ahead....

Sure, no discourse.

M.

[Strangely Brown]

PinkHouse said:

cayman-black said:

Pink this is the anti Trump thread so dont waste your time here.

Unfortunately seems to be that way. As soon as I post the indisputable facts that Trump is ahead in recent election and battleground polls...

But it's not indisputable. The very fact that your claim has been rebutted and an explanation given proves that. Do you have anything else to support your claim or are you relying only on a single source? You can get all huffy and flounce off if you wish but argument by assertion is not going to produce a worthwhile discussion.

[Chimune]

PinkHouse - if biden wins somehow, why would that be?

[tangerine_sedge]

off_again said:

PinkHouse said:

In other news Trump is ahead in every single battleground state, hope you enjoy the upcoming debate too

Unfortunately that is just not true. Even Fox News had to admit that recent polling had Biden ahead.

The thing is that Professor Lichtman has already indicated that Biden is his favorite to win:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elect...

He's been right the last 9 times, and there is a lot that can go wrong before November, but his key indicators show that Biden is still the favorite to win, so lets see. I certainly dont have enough experience in this area, but if we have learned anything in the last 9-10 years of US politics, its that pollsters get it wrong frequently.

I'd be surprised if Biden didn't win. Biden beat trump last time, and since then trump has triggered an insurrection, SCOTUS have reversed Roe vs Wade, trump has been judged a felon and a rapist in a court of law, his rallies are visibly smaller, his campaign funds have reduced, and in the last few months he's obviously struggling with his health and mental abilities. Also Biden has the incumbents advantage this time and fundamentally hasn't been a bad president. Meanwhile trump is pushing a virtual Christian Nationalist dictatorship.

In summary, trump has done lots of things to turn-off voters, and absolutely nothing to attract new voters.

Edited by tangerine_sedge on Monday 24th June 16:41

[PinkHouse]

Mortarboard said:

PinkHouse said:

cayman-black said:

Pink this is the anti Trump thread so dont waste your time here.

Unfortunately seems to be that way. As soon as I post the indisputable facts that Trump is ahead in recent election and battleground polls, I get accused of the grave sin of having a 5 year old account which is baffling as I didn't realise that was somehow an insult. I can see why most others have stopped engaging as you can't really have any good discourse here so it's utterly pointless.

And yet, in the link you were given, aggregate shows Biden 0.3% ahead....

Sure, no discourse.

M.

And the most recent polls show him 3 points ahead, there's a difference between polls 2 weeks vs 3 days ago...

[PinkHouse]

Strangely Brown said:

PinkHouse said:

cayman-black said:

Pink this is the anti Trump thread so dont waste your time here.

Unfortunately seems to be that way. As soon as I post the indisputable facts that Trump is ahead in recent election and battleground polls...

But it's not indisputable. The very fact that your claim has been rebutted and an explanation given proves that. Do you have anything else to support your claim or are you relying only on a single source? You can get all huffy and flounce off if you wish but argument by assertion is not going to produce a worthwhile discussion.

There have been attempts at explaining it away but no rebuttals, because no matter how hard you argue, there's nothing that can change the fact that the most recent polls show Trump ahead. You also claim I've used a single source when I've actually used two - RCP and 538, so perhaps your eyesight isn't very reliable, which is why you can't see that 3 separate polls showing Trump +1, +2 and +3 ahead nationally are somehow non existent because you simply don't like the result they provide

[Mortarboard]

PinkHouse said:

And the most recent polls show him 3 points ahead, there's a difference between polls 2 weeks vs 3 days ago...

Now you have discourse. Carry on

M.

[Mortarboard]

CNN reporting that the Biden campaign has outspent Trump 3:1 on ads since supertuesday (92m vs 34 m)

Locally, I haven't seen any protrump TV ads. It's all been local reps.

M.

[PinkHouse]

Chimune said:

PinkHouse - if biden wins somehow, why would that be?

If he wins then it's because he was more popular and focused time/money on the right battles, similar to every other election

[Whoozit]

Mortarboard said:

PinkHouse said:

And the most recent polls show him 3 points ahead, there's a difference between polls 2 weeks vs 3 days ago...

Now you have discourse. Carry on

M.

Indeed there is. Two of the three polls you're citing were started on 5 June. Every other poll, 11 June or later.

Edited by Whoozit on Monday 24th June 16:57