Firkin celebrities walking up a mountain. FFS.

Firkin celebrities walking up a mountain. FFS.

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VladD

7,984 posts

271 months

Friday 13th March 2009
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fulham911club said:
VladD said:
fulham911club said:
VladD said:
Davi said:
VladD said:
fulham911club said:
VladD said:
Either do it properly or not at all is what my point is.
Isn't that a bit of a binary view of life? I'm afraid its not that simple....
Exactly my point. It's not that simple, but it should be.
but as it isn't, why bh about the celebrities that are trying to change things?
I haven't bhed about the celebrities. All I'm saying is that it could be done better.
How then? Your only suggestion so far is that a bunch of billionaires give £10mm each.
And you think £1.5M for climbing a mountain will help more Africans than £500M from billionaires who give it without climbing one?
So these 50 billionaires are just going to hand over the cash are they? Perhaps you should give them all a call.
Not me, as I'm not famous. But maybe if Gary Barlow, Bob Geldof, Bono, Paul McCartney or Elton John gave them a call, it could happen.

fadeaway

1,463 posts

232 months

Friday 13th March 2009
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Davi said:
VladD said:
And you think £1.5M for climbing a mountain will help more Africans than £500M from billionaires who give it without climbing one?
It will help substantially more than not having £1.5m
What's this got to do with billionaires? Lots of billionaires give vast sums of money to charity. Don't see what that's got to do with Comic relief or people climbing a mountain to raise more money.

VladD

7,984 posts

271 months

Friday 13th March 2009
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Davi said:
VladD said:
Davi said:
VladD said:
fulham911club said:
VladD said:
Either do it properly or not at all is what my point is.
Isn't that a bit of a binary view of life? I'm afraid its not that simple....
Exactly my point. It's not that simple, but it should be.
but as it isn't, why bh about the celebrities that are trying to change things?
I haven't bhed about the celebrities. All I'm saying is that it could be done better.
OK, IMO "£1.5 million from 9 celebrities. If they'd just given £200K each the charities would be better off. It's not like they can't afford it. It's a bit like the "Live Earth" gig. The "celebrities" are more concerned with promoting their image than the actual cause. The climb was a waste of time and effort." is bhing, especially when posted on a thread aimed at bhing about celebs. If it wasn't intended in that way I retract my comment.

Still doesn't alter the fact that for the task set, they achieved the goals well - and who knows, it may have even humbled them a tad. Probably not but we can live in hope hehe
No, that's a fair cop. I think my point about just giving monney still stands, but the comment about their motivation for doing it was definitely bhing. I stand corrected. Apologies.

anonymous-user

60 months

Friday 13th March 2009
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VladD said:
fulham911club said:
VladD said:
fulham911club said:
VladD said:
Davi said:
VladD said:
fulham911club said:
VladD said:
Either do it properly or not at all is what my point is.
Isn't that a bit of a binary view of life? I'm afraid its not that simple....
Exactly my point. It's not that simple, but it should be.
but as it isn't, why bh about the celebrities that are trying to change things?
I haven't bhed about the celebrities. All I'm saying is that it could be done better.
How then? Your only suggestion so far is that a bunch of billionaires give £10mm each.
And you think £1.5M for climbing a mountain will help more Africans than £500M from billionaires who give it without climbing one?
So these 50 billionaires are just going to hand over the cash are they? Perhaps you should give them all a call.
Not me, as I'm not famous. But maybe if Gary Barlow, Bob Geldof, Bono, Paul McCartney or Elton John gave them a call, it could happen.
none of those are billionaires.
gary barlow has just spent six months of his life arranging the kili climb
bob geldof spends most of his life harranging politicians
bono is a cock but probably does a lot of chairty work with geldof when not swopping sunglasses with deities
macca probably does loads of charity stuff already
elton john has his AIDS foundation charities.
personally, they all do enough as it is for charities.

if we got rid of some of the dictatorships in the african cotinent perhaps we wouldnt need to raise the cash in the first place....

JonRB

75,686 posts

278 months

Friday 13th March 2009
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maxrider said:
Apparently Brown has invited them all to no. 10 to congratulate them.

What a wonderful opportunity to turn the offer down in protest at him and his st government, I doubt the celebs are great fans of Labour anyway.

I would have even more respect for them if they told him to get stuffed.
I was thinking exactly the same thing when I heard.

And then I thought to myself; if I was invited to No.10 in similar circumstances (ie. the media would actually care if I said 'no') then would I?

Difficult one, because there would be ramifications. Let's say Moyles made a political statement by refusing to go, and perhaps even saying why, would he be sacked from the BBC? Quietly moved back to the afternoon show? Given the graveyard shift?
Or perhaps find HMRC taking a far greater interest in his tax affairs? Or stopped by the police whilst driving for 'routine checks' quite regularly? Who knows?

I have no doubt that PM Brown took the opportunity to bask in the reflected media glow of this event which was why they were invited, so a very public snub of refusal would not go down well.

JonRB

75,686 posts

278 months

Friday 13th March 2009
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pablo said:
anyone who is in posession of a yacht worht millions is most likely lacking the moral fibre to give a hoot about a kid in africa dying of malaria. billionaires have priorites that usually involve cars, yachts, hookers, cocaine and champagne, humanitarian issues dont rate that highly in the bars of monaco i'm afraid...
You mean apart from Bill Gates, and a load of other philanthropists?

ewenm

28,506 posts

251 months

Friday 13th March 2009
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pablo said:
VladD said:
Not me, as I'm not famous. But maybe if Gary Barlow, Bob Geldof, Bono, Paul McCartney or Elton John gave them a call, it could happen.
none of those are billionaires.
gary barlow has just spent six months of his life arranging the kili climb
bob geldof spends most of his life harranging politicians
bono is a cock but probably does a lot of chairty work with geldof when not swopping sunglasses with deities
macca probably does loads of charity stuff already
elton john has his AIDS foundation charities.
personally, they all do enough as it is for charities.

if we got rid of some of the dictatorships in the african cotinent perhaps we wouldnt need to raise the cash in the first place....
He was suggesting those names CALL the billionaires to persuade them to donate, not that those people ARE billionaires.

A return to colonialism... hmmm...

VladD

7,984 posts

271 months

Friday 13th March 2009
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pablo said:
none of those are billionaires.
gary barlow has just spent six months of his life arranging the kili climb
bob geldof spends most of his life harranging politicians
bono is a cock but probably does a lot of chairty work with geldof when not swopping sunglasses with deities
macca probably does loads of charity stuff already
elton john has his AIDS foundation charities.
personally, they all do enough as it is for charities.

if we got rid of some of the dictatorships in the african cotinent perhaps we wouldnt need to raise the cash in the first place....
Are you deliberately repeatedly misunderstanding me to try and wind me up or is English not your first language?

Mr Green

936 posts

188 months

Friday 13th March 2009
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It was a jolly for the celebs, everyone seems to be concerned about the environment and climate change what I'd like to know is what was the carbon foot print for all this lot, just get these people to stick to their day job and contribute their pay for the same number of hours they have spent on this exercise, It's like getting a brain surgeon to sweep the streets.
You wouldn't find so many celebs volunteering to man a soup kitchen for the night. I wouldn't be surprised if they where given a choice, you can either go to some god awful st hole in Africa and meet some malaria victims whilst living in a tent or go up Kilimanjaro via the nearest 5 star hotel, it's up to you.

Jack Dee would have a field day with this in Lead Balloon.

Prometheus

367 posts

189 months

Friday 13th March 2009
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A jolly??

What a retarded comment.

Oh and some of the celebs did both, visit the hospitals AND climbed the mountain.

Edited by Prometheus on Friday 13th March 12:46

VladD

7,984 posts

271 months

Friday 13th March 2009
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Anyway, I'm losing my braodband access this afternoon, so I'll bid you all farewell for the time being. Enjoy Comic Relief this evening and have a good weekend.

beer


Gun

13,432 posts

224 months

Friday 13th March 2009
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Would you really call climbing a mountain that kills, on average, 10 experienced climbers a year a "jolly", I wouldn't.

Tony*T3

20,911 posts

253 months

Friday 13th March 2009
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VladD said:
Anyway, I'm losing my braodband access this afternoon, so I'll bid you all farewell for the time being. Enjoy Comic Relief this evening and have a good weekend.

beer
You wont be missed.

ewenm

28,506 posts

251 months

Friday 13th March 2009
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Tony*T3 said:
VladD said:
Anyway, I'm losing my braodband access this afternoon, so I'll bid you all farewell for the time being. Enjoy Comic Relief this evening and have a good weekend.

beer
You wont be missed.
FFS - I don't agree with much of what VladD has said in this thread, but that's just childish rolleyes

Prometheus

367 posts

189 months

Friday 13th March 2009
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ewenm said:
Tony*T3 said:
VladD said:
Anyway, I'm losing my braodband access this afternoon, so I'll bid you all farewell for the time being. Enjoy Comic Relief this evening and have a good weekend.

beer
You wont be missed.
FFS - I don't agree with much of what VladD has said in this thread, but that's just childish rolleyes
Feel the love!

laugh

AlpineWhite

2,148 posts

201 months

Friday 13th March 2009
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Gun said:
Would you really call climbing a mountain that kills, on average, 10 experienced climbers a year a "jolly", I wouldn't.
I don't think Kili is really a destination for experienced climbers.

Tony*T3

20,911 posts

253 months

Friday 13th March 2009
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ewenm said:
Tony*T3 said:
VladD said:
Anyway, I'm losing my braodband access this afternoon, so I'll bid you all farewell for the time being. Enjoy Comic Relief this evening and have a good weekend.

beer
You wont be missed.
FFS - I don't agree with much of what VladD has said in this thread, but that's just childish rolleyes
just another PH moaner that belittles someone elses efforts yet fails to put up a reasonable argeument as to why or how he himself has bettered their pathetic attempts.

Edited by Tony*T3 on Friday 13th March 12:54

Sciroccology

29,908 posts

236 months

Friday 13th March 2009
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Mr Green said:
what I'd like to know is what was the carbon foot print for all this lot
Oh, do shut up, before you get my carbon footprint on your arse.

For what it's worth, I've just watched the video of the climb/walk/stroll/jolly and was actually quite impressed. Obviously, I skipped past the bits where they showed the starving African kiddies as, quite frankly, who wants to watch that?

What I saw was a commendable attempt by a few people to be taken completely out of their comfort zones and stuck into a hostile environment, to do something that they (and most people, come to that) would never have dreamed of doing normally. It defined the word "challenge". The fact that they used their high-profile status (I am loathed to use the word "celebrity") to raise more money is surely the whole point of the exercise. As for being "pampered" with a massive support crew, well they're hardly going to give them a bobble hat and a slab of Kendal Mint Cake and say "off you go then", are they?

By the way, I noticed that Mr Moyles fared much better in the altitude sickness thing than most - I gather this is because he's a smoker. Ha! I knew it would have some advantages (apart from the cool and sexy look it gives you.)

Davi

17,153 posts

226 months

Friday 13th March 2009
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VladD said:
Anyway, I'm losing my braodband access this afternoon, so I'll bid you all farewell for the time being. Enjoy Comic Relief this evening and have a good weekend.

beer
no ta, wouldn't catch me watching that crap hehe

Prometheus

367 posts

189 months

Friday 13th March 2009
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Sciroccology said:
By the way, I noticed that Mr Moyles fared much better in the altitude sickness thing than most - I gather this is because he's a smoker. )
How does that work then?