Another dog attack
Discussion
Super Sonic said:
Jasandjules said:
Well as this is a car site and given some of the posts, I may as well go all in ...
Cars kill more people than dogs and you just can't get away from them..... Ban cars.
Or make people take a test, license them and make them have insurance.Cars kill more people than dogs and you just can't get away from them..... Ban cars.
You'd just end up penalising the responsible for the actions of the irresponsible, as with so much in life these days.
Jasandjules said:
Well as this is a car site and given some of the posts, I may as well go all in ...
Cars kill more people than dogs and you just can't get away from them..... Ban cars.
Number of people killed by parked cars = 0 (i expect)Cars kill more people than dogs and you just can't get away from them..... Ban cars.
Number of people killed by humans driving cars = all the people who’s death involve a car.
Its the people that are responsible in the vast majority of both cases (car accidents, dog accidents).
Super Sonic said:
Or make people take a test, license them and make them have insurance.
Ah yes, my mistake, no-one has ever been killed by a driver who hasn't got a license or insurance... I think perhaps we should also make it illegal to be intoxicated in control of a dog, because no-one has ever killed someone with a motor vehicle whilst intoxicated.Jasandjules said:
Super Sonic said:
Or make people take a test, license them and make them have insurance.
Ah yes, my mistake, no-one has ever been killed by a driver who hasn't got a license or insurance... I think perhaps we should also make it illegal to be intoxicated in control of a dog, because no-one has ever killed someone with a motor vehicle whilst intoxicated.NMNeil said:
How about simple legislation. "All dogs when in a public place must be fitted with a muzzle to prevent biting"?
I'm liking the idea but the cuddly dog lobby will revolt, old dears throwing themselves at racehorsesdog poo dirty protests.
Can't believe the cretinous Cow comparision, walkers and ramblers
choose to bother cows, they walk into their domain.
That poor woman, though one wonders the wisdom of walking 7 big unmuzzled dogs.
NMNeil said:
moorx said:
Whereas you managed it on page 2.
Tentative, as all I said was Glock was a good way to deal with an attacking dog.But did you really read all the previous postings to find that?
Sad really.
Edited by NMNeil on Saturday 14th January 21:59
Have a good evening.
moorx said:
Super Sonic said:
Jasandjules said:
Well as this is a car site and given some of the posts, I may as well go all in ...
Cars kill more people than dogs and you just can't get away from them..... Ban cars.
Or make people take a test, license them and make them have insurance.Cars kill more people than dogs and you just can't get away from them..... Ban cars.
You'd just end up penalising the responsible for the actions of the irresponsible, as with so much in life these days.
It's not perfect, but better than letting anybody drive a car without passing a test etc.
Silvanus said:
Walking a dog whilst on the phone? Dangerous walking of a dog? Walking a dog too fast maybe? What about taking your dog to a vet once a year for a test to make sure all is in working order and safe? Dogging without undue care and attention? Actually scrap that last one.
Or if you want to be stupid, why not make the same comparisons to other activities that require a license, eg selling alcohol while on the phone? Owning a shotgun too fast etc? Ridiculous.Super Sonic said:
Silvanus said:
Walking a dog whilst on the phone? Dangerous walking of a dog? Walking a dog too fast maybe? What about taking your dog to a vet once a year for a test to make sure all is in working order and safe? Dogging without undue care and attention? Actually scrap that last one.
Or if you want to be stupid, why not make the same comparisons to other activities that require a license, eg selling alcohol while on the phone? Owning a shotgun too fast etc? Ridiculous.
ks being talked i thought I'd join the party.Whilst any dog can bite, have a nasty temperament or a bad owner, for me I tend to consider whether a typical person could reasonably defend themselves against a particular breed without getting seriously injured or killed.
Something like a Jack Russel could be a nasty bd and leave you requiring stitches, but ultimately unlikely to seriously injure an adult human. The thought of an out of control XL bully on the other hand scares the st out of me.
Size, weight, jaw type, bite pressure are all a factor in considering this. It gets incredibly difficult however when you start talking about a breeds natural/unlearned temperament, the owner, its training or lack thereof. I’m also aware that said Jack Russel may not pose a serious threat to me but a very young child?
Ultimately, I do feel that something needs to be done. Whilst dog attacks that seriously injure or kill may be quite rare, it must be horrific and surely are almost always preventable. And I’m sorry, but every time there’s a newsworthy incident, it’s almost always a bull breed. Maybe says more about the owners of such breeds but how long can it be ignored?
Something like a Jack Russel could be a nasty b
d and leave you requiring stitches, but ultimately unlikely to seriously injure an adult human. The thought of an out of control XL bully on the other hand scares the st out of me. Size, weight, jaw type, bite pressure are all a factor in considering this. It gets incredibly difficult however when you start talking about a breeds natural/unlearned temperament, the owner, its training or lack thereof. I’m also aware that said Jack Russel may not pose a serious threat to me but a very young child?
Ultimately, I do feel that something needs to be done. Whilst dog attacks that seriously injure or kill may be quite rare, it must be horrific and surely are almost always preventable. And I’m sorry, but every time there’s a newsworthy incident, it’s almost always a bull breed. Maybe says more about the owners of such breeds but how long can it be ignored?
NMNeil said:
How about simple legislation. "All dogs when in a public place must be fitted with a muzzle to prevent biting"?
I guess if you made it so all humans had to wear handcuffs it would prevent shootings?Unless the cuffs slipped a bit.
Or someone didn't put them on right.
Law braking folk didn't put theirs on.
Do you really think there is going to be a quick and easy simple overnight fix without any drawbacks?
Have you ever tried to put a muzzle on a dog?
Heathwood said:
Whilst any dog can bite, have a nasty temperament or a bad owner, for me I tend to consider whether a typical person could reasonably defend themselves against a particular breed without getting seriously injured or killed.
Something like a Jack Russel could be a nasty bd and leave you requiring stitches, but ultimately unlikely to seriously injure an adult human. The thought of an out of control XL bully on the other hand scares the st out of me.
Size, weight, jaw type, bite pressure are all a factor in considering this. It gets incredibly difficult however when you start talking about a breeds natural/unlearned temperament, the owner, its training or lack thereof. I’m also aware that said Jack Russel may not pose a serious threat to me but a very young child?
Ultimately, I do feel that something needs to be done. Whilst dog attacks that seriously injure or kill may be quite rare, it must be horrific and surely are almost always preventable. And I’m sorry, but every time there’s a newsworthy incident, it’s almost always a bull breed. Maybe says more about the owners of such breeds but how long can it be ignored?
A tiny fraction of dogs are xl bully/pitbull types though! Something like a Jack Russel could be a nasty b
d and leave you requiring stitches, but ultimately unlikely to seriously injure an adult human. The thought of an out of control XL bully on the other hand scares the st out of me. Size, weight, jaw type, bite pressure are all a factor in considering this. It gets incredibly difficult however when you start talking about a breeds natural/unlearned temperament, the owner, its training or lack thereof. I’m also aware that said Jack Russel may not pose a serious threat to me but a very young child?
Ultimately, I do feel that something needs to be done. Whilst dog attacks that seriously injure or kill may be quite rare, it must be horrific and surely are almost always preventable. And I’m sorry, but every time there’s a newsworthy incident, it’s almost always a bull breed. Maybe says more about the owners of such breeds but how long can it be ignored?
62000 labs registered in 2021 can't find the data for the type of breeds your talking about but it's certainly less then 2000.
I get your point though those dogs do seem to be more prone to killing/mauling people and something may need to be done! But saying muzzle all dogs isn't the answer as many of these attacks are on the owners at their own home!
The lady walking the dogs who was killed sounds terrible, must be horrific, feel sorry for her and her family!
dhutch said:
I guess if you made it so all humans had to wear handcuffs it would prevent shootings?
Unless the cuffs slipped a bit.
Or someone didn't put them on right.
Law braking folk didn't put theirs on.
Do you really think there is going to be a quick and easy simple overnight fix without any drawbacks?
Have you ever tried to put a muzzle on a dog?
I would never muzzle my dog, there is absoloutly no need to do so.Unless the cuffs slipped a bit.
Or someone didn't put them on right.
Law braking folk didn't put theirs on.
Do you really think there is going to be a quick and easy simple overnight fix without any drawbacks?
Have you ever tried to put a muzzle on a dog?
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