The Future of Power Generation in Great Britain

The Future of Power Generation in Great Britain

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Evanivitch

20,760 posts

125 months

Monday 22nd April
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hidetheelephants

25,953 posts

196 months

Monday 22nd April
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Evanivitch said:
Baglan Power Station is just the chimney stack left now. Turbine Hall has been pulled down after being gutted by arson. Didn't even generate for 20 years, and now the land will probably be used for an expanded solar farm.
Wonder if vampire squid Macquarie burnt their fingers on this one.

PushedDover

5,731 posts

56 months

Monday 22nd April
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Evanivitch said:
Floating wind progress in Scotland?

https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/news/aberdeen...
yes. met with them last month, they seem very keen to progress. Loss leader for them really to avoid the penalties (as are all the INTOG projects)

At least they are local to some 'deep offshore' types up there and vessel types for the mooring systems etc

Previous

1,469 posts

157 months

Monday 22nd April
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hidetheelephants said:
Evanivitch said:
Baglan Power Station is just the chimney stack left now. Turbine Hall has been pulled down after being gutted by arson. Didn't even generate for 20 years, and now the land will probably be used for an expanded solar farm.
Wonder if vampire squid Macquarie burnt their fingers on this one.
Suspect Macquarie loaded it with debt and ramped the price, so much so customers found supply elsewhere.

PushedDover

5,731 posts

56 months

Sunday 19th May
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Floating wind, and the remote, lack of scalability …… sees developers divesting.


Essarell

1,342 posts

57 months

Sunday 19th May
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PushedDover said:
Floating wind, and the remote, lack of scalability …… sees developers divesting.

Isn’t this Sir Keir Starmer’s Great British Energy green energy revolution jobs bonanza net zero better future for our children vision being thrown to the recycling bin?

hidetheelephants

25,953 posts

196 months

Sunday 19th May
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Essarell said:
Isn’t this Sir Keir Starmer’s Great British Energy green energy revolution jobs bonanza net zero better future for our children vision being thrown to the recycling bin?
Not really, but I commend your effort to blame SKS for it.

PushedDover

5,731 posts

56 months

Monday 20th May
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Essarell said:
Isn’t this Sir Keir Starmer’s Great British Energy green energy revolution jobs bonanza net zero better future for our children vision being thrown to the recycling bin?
No

Evanivitch

20,760 posts

125 months

Monday 20th May
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PushedDover said:
Floating wind, and the remote, lack of scalability …… sees developers divesting.

Given the opportunities in the UK for fixed I can understand why. I do think from a UK export capability it's a huge opportunity and one that holistically improves our energy security by reducing our bias to North Sea weather patterns.

hidetheelephants

25,953 posts

196 months

Friday 7th June
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BBC Inside Science; Micro Nuclear Reactors

Despite being a bit of a nuclear advocate I'm sceptical about this, at least for here, mainly as the UK's existing regulatory framework is more or less incompatible with such things and changing it would not be quick or easy. Very small SMRs as described probably have a ready market with the military and in countries with less established or no nuclear regulatory framework though.

Gary C

12,732 posts

182 months

Friday 7th June
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We really should be building some though.

The inertia is terrible though. I know it was mooted that SZC might be SMR but that looks unlikely now (though the final investment decision has been put back due to the election) but until someone builds one, it seems that no one will be brave enough to build one.

Ideal Gov project. Buy the tech from RR, build one and licence around the world, wont happen though.

Evanivitch

20,760 posts

125 months

Friday 7th June
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Gary C said:
We really should be building some though.

The inertia is terrible though. I know it was mooted that SZC might be SMR but that looks unlikely now (though the final investment decision has been put back due to the election) but until someone builds one, it seems that no one will be brave enough to build one.

Ideal Gov project. Buy the tech from RR, build one and licence around the world, wont happen though.
I think that's the difference between the modular reactors (150-400MW) and these micro reactors that are more akin to a few MW.

hidetheelephants

25,953 posts

196 months

Friday 7th June
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yes I'd like Labour to order RR SMRs for Wylfa on July the 5th, but a statement within 100 days setting out what they plan to do with nuclear power would be good.

dvs_dave

8,818 posts

228 months

Sunday 16th June
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[Reuters] Orsted to install Tesla battery for UK offshore wind farm

600 MWh Tesla Megapack connected to the Hornsea 3 offshore wind farm. Interesting development. Is this the first one in the UK? It’ll be interesting to see how it performs and if we’ll see more similar systems popping up elsewhere in the UK.

Edited by dvs_dave on Sunday 16th June 16:32

Murph7355

38,074 posts

259 months

Sunday 16th June
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hidetheelephants said:
yes I'd like Labour to order RR SMRs for Wylfa on July the 5th, but a statement within 100 days setting out what they plan to do with nuclear power would be good.
It certainly seems like a sensible answer, and from what I've read one that could be onstream relatively quickly.

Are they in their manifesto? If not, I suspect they'll fart arse around for years like every colour of party has in the last 20yrs.

Condi

17,431 posts

174 months

Sunday 16th June
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dvs_dave said:
[Reuters] Orsted to install Tesla battery for UK offshore wind farm

600 MWh Tesla Megapack connected to the Hornsea 3 offshore wind farm. Interesting development. Is this the first one in the UK? It’ll be interesting to see how it performs and if we’ll see more similar systems popping up elsewhere in the UK.
Solar + battery has been pretty common for a few years because prices during summer can be really low (even negative) when the sun is strongest whereas a few hours later the power is worth 5 or 10 times as much, and some smaller onshore wind farms also have co-located batteries. That one would be I think the first offshore and also one of the largest batteries on the grid.

tamore

7,211 posts

287 months

Sunday 16th June
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saw that tony seba reckons nuclear power will be a busted flush by 2030. he hasn't got much wrong about the transition to renewables.

hidetheelephants

25,953 posts

196 months

Sunday 16th June
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tamore said:
saw that tony seba reckons nuclear power will be a busted flush by 2030. he hasn't got much wrong about the transition to renewables.
It's almost endearing how all his assumptions are predicated on innovation in the areas he likes but those he doesn't aren't allowed innovation at all.

tamore

7,211 posts

287 months

Sunday 16th June
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hidetheelephants said:
tamore said:
saw that tony seba reckons nuclear power will be a busted flush by 2030. he hasn't got much wrong about the transition to renewables.
It's almost endearing how all his assumptions are predicated on innovation in the areas he likes but those he doesn't aren't allowed innovation at all.
maybe, but i reckon this is a pretty solid prediction looking at the pace of development in storage tech, and the plummeting cost of solar.

hidetheelephants

25,953 posts

196 months

Sunday 16th June
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He's been in the business of selling his ideas books and seminars for 8 years, confidently making statements about existing trends and then extrapolating them is not impressive.