Your voting intentions

[r159]

Square Leg said:

Just been to vote - I’m in the very south of Notts, the ‘local’ Independant candidate lives in Derbyshire.
Don’t know when that changed as we had a decent independent who lives in the next village.

No independent candidates at all in our constituency, also there are more national parties than on the list on this poll….Struggled to pick someone who doesn’t want me to loose my job…

[Jinx]

Reform 14.3% result.

Pistonheads called it

[PositronicRay]

Jinx said:

Reform 14.3% result.

Pistonheads called it

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=205&t=2083434&i=360

[Castrol for a knave]

Jinx said:

Reform 14.3% result.

Pistonheads called it

On that basis, Pistonheads is full of lefty woke latte drinking metropolitan elite lentil platting yoghurt hugging lycra wearing trans rights Remoners.

or bhstewie voted 347 times.

[bitchstewie]

Sadly not.

The Conservatives just fked it so badly that a once massively right leaning forum now seems more in line with the rest of country around who should be running it.

[768]

PH has long been pretty reflective of the wider picture, other than being a little down on Labour voters because it skews a little towards people who can afford a car.

[Louis Balfour]

Castrol for a knave said:

Jinx said:

Reform 14.3% result.

Pistonheads called it

On that basis, Pistonheads is full of lefty woke latte drinking metropolitan elite lentil platting yoghurt hugging lycra wearing trans rights Remoners.

or bhstewie voted 347 times.

Easy Tiger.

[FNG]

Castrol for a knave said:

Jinx said:

Reform 14.3% result.

Pistonheads called it

On that basis, Pistonheads is full of lefty woke latte drinking metropolitan elite lentil platting yoghurt hugging lycra wearing trans rights Remoners.

or bhstewie voted 347 times.

Well yes, I think you've nailed it there.

(not the bit about bhstewie's voting)

It's a trope that PH is right wing, these days. There are more vocal and active left wingers on here than right wing.

[Castrol for a knave]

FNG said:

Castrol for a knave said:

Jinx said:

Reform 14.3% result.

Pistonheads called it

On that basis, Pistonheads is full of lefty woke latte drinking metropolitan elite lentil platting yoghurt hugging lycra wearing trans rights Remoners.

or bhstewie voted 347 times.

Well yes, I think you've nailed it there.

(not the bit about bhstewie's voting)

It's a trope that PH is right wing, these days. There are more vocal and active left wingers on here than right wing.

It's a fairly broad church, but I think the "left wingers", are often homeless One Nation Tories, but yes, there are some reactionary left wing northern scumbags, like me.

[frisbee]

FNG said:

Well yes, I think you've nailed it there.

(not the bit about bhstewie's voting)

It's a trope that PH is right wing, these days. There are more vocal and active left wingers on here than right wing.

People who think the current Tory party are utterly useless or Farage is a blue blazered fkwit aren't all left wingers.

The Tories have frozen or cut allowances, raised taxes and pissed a load of money up the wall.

Reform's manifesto was a whole Jupiter's worth of moons on sticks.

[turbobloke]

frisbee said:

FNG said:

Well yes, I think you've nailed it there.

(not the bit about bhstewie's voting)

It's a trope that PH is right wing, these days. There are more vocal and active left wingers on here than right wing.

People who think the current Tory party are utterly useless or Farage is a blue blazered fkwit aren't all left wingers.

No, but it helps.

[Pan Pan Pan]

Jinx said:

Reform 14.3% result.

Pistonheads called it

Reform got more votes than the Liberals. However Reform got 4 seats, whilst the Liberals got 70.

[turbobloke]

Pan Pan Pan said:

Jinx said:

Reform 14.3% result.

Pistonheads called it

Reform got more votes than the Liberals. However Reform got 4 seats, whilst the Liberals got 70.

Now 5 seats iirc, not that this improves matters wrt LibDems.

[clockworks]

Pan Pan Pan said:

Reform got more votes than the Liberals. However Reform got 4 seats, whilst the Liberals got 70.

A big chunk of the Reform vote went towards Labour getting a massive majority on 35% of the votes!

Cornwall has 6 constituencies. Last time, they were all Tory. Now 4 are Labour, 2 are Lib Dem.

In 3 of the constituencies, the combined Tory and Reform vote was way higher than the Labour vote. Those who voted Reform were effectively voting to get a Labour MP.
Probably the same cohort who voted for brexit, despite Cornwall benefitting massively from EU money, then whinging about it afterwards when the NHS didn't get the "£350 million a day".

[turbobloke]

clockworks said:

Pan Pan Pan said:

Reform got more votes than the Liberals. However Reform got 4 seats, whilst the Liberals got 70.

A big chunk of the Reform vote went towards Labour getting a massive majority on 35% of the votes!

Cornwall has 6 constituencies. Last time, they were all Tory. Now 4 are Labour, 2 are Lib Dem.

In 3 of the constituencies, the combined Tory and Reform vote was way higher than the Labour vote. Those who voted Reform were effectively voting to get a Labour MP.
Probably the same cohort who voted for brexit, despite Cornwall benefitting massively from EU money, then whinging about it afterwards when the NHS didn't get the "£350 million a day".

Without wishing to turn this into yet another brexit grief therapy thread, you'll find that the 8+ years of whining has been from Remainers.

[clockworks]

turbobloke said:

Without wishing to turn this into yet another brexit grief therapy thread, you'll find that the 8+ years of whining has been from Remainers.

Doesn't seem to be the case down here in the far Southwest. No more EU-funded projects, and none of the promised brexit benefits. Most of the people I know who voted for it now regret it.

Off-topic though.



Lib Dems got more seats because they targeted the constituencies where they came second last time. In mine (St. Ives), the Lib Dem vote was higher than the combined Tory and Reform vote. Andrew George would've won even if Reform didn't exist. People knew him because he was the MP back in the day, and had stuck around despite losing twice.

Reform got very few seats because in most areas they appealed to voters who previously voted Tory in constituencies with a sitting Tory MP.

[OutInTheShed]

clockworks said:

A big chunk of the Reform vote went towards Labour getting a massive majority on 35% of the votes!

Cornwall has 6 constituencies. Last time, they were all Tory. Now 4 are Labour, 2 are Lib Dem.

In 3 of the constituencies, the combined Tory and Reform vote was way higher than the Labour vote. Those who voted Reform were effectively voting to get a Labour MP.
Probably the same cohort who voted for brexit, despite Cornwall benefitting massively from EU money, then whinging about it afterwards when the NHS didn't get the "£350 million a day".

Here in Devon, it seems the tories not only lost votes to Reform, but also to reduced turnout.

Labour got a similar umber of votes.
Greens picked up votes from somewhere.

Maybe comparing with 2019 is unhelpful, because I think the tories 'borrowed' a lot of votes then to 'get Brexit done'.

The whole concept of 'combined tory and reform vote' is false. The Cameron/May/Sunak flavour of tory party does not represent Reform voters.
It's less useful than adding the LDs to Labour or Labour to SNP.

[768]

clockworks said:

Probably the same cohort who voted for brexit, despite Cornwall benefitting massively from EU money, then whinging about it afterwards when the NHS didn't get the "£350 million a day".

A week. They did get it.

[Pan Pan Pan]

clockworks said:

turbobloke said:

Without wishing to turn this into yet another brexit grief therapy thread, you'll find that the 8+ years of whining has been from Remainers.

Doesn't seem to be the case down here in the far Southwest. No more EU-funded projects, and none of the promised brexit benefits. Most of the people I know who voted for it now regret it.

Off-topic though.



Lib Dems got more seats because they targeted the constituencies where they came second last time. In mine (St. Ives), the Lib Dem vote was higher than the combined Tory and Reform vote. Andrew George would've won even if Reform didn't exist. People knew him because he was the MP back in the day, and had stuck around despite losing twice.

Reform got very few seats because in most areas they appealed to voters who previously voted Tory in constituencies with a sitting Tory MP.

Since the UK was the second greatest NET contributor of funds into the EU's coffers after Germany, any funding the UK got from the EU when it was a member, was just a little of its own money coming back to where it came from in the first place. Anyone who believed that the EU was giving the UK lots of lovely money is utterly delusional.

[CivicDuties]

Pan Pan Pan said:

clockworks said:

turbobloke said:

Without wishing to turn this into yet another brexit grief therapy thread, you'll find that the 8+ years of whining has been from Remainers.

Doesn't seem to be the case down here in the far Southwest. No more EU-funded projects, and none of the promised brexit benefits. Most of the people I know who voted for it now regret it.

Off-topic though.



Lib Dems got more seats because they targeted the constituencies where they came second last time. In mine (St. Ives), the Lib Dem vote was higher than the combined Tory and Reform vote. Andrew George would've won even if Reform didn't exist. People knew him because he was the MP back in the day, and had stuck around despite losing twice.

Reform got very few seats because in most areas they appealed to voters who previously voted Tory in constituencies with a sitting Tory MP.

Since the UK was the second greatest NET contributor of funds into the EU's coffers after Germany, any funding the UK got from the EU when it was a member, was just a little of its own money coming back to where it came from in the first place. Anyone who believed that the EU was giving the UK lots of lovely money is utterly delusional.

And, as always, you will refuse to allow for the net benefit we accrued as members from the advantageous trade position we had, amongst other gains both financial and non-financial. No leaver will ever, ever, accept this because it utterly torpedoes this simplistic "we sent money to the EU so it must be bad" rubbish.

Anyone who believes we're better off outside the EU is utterly delusional.