Firkin celebrities walking up a mountain. FFS.

[fulham911club]

VladD said:

Either do it properly or not at all is what my point is.

Isn't that a bit of a binary view of life? I'm afraid its not that simple....

[ewenm]

VladD said:

ewenm said:

As for the moniker of "Heroes" - this I disagree with but, as we all know, it's a heavily overused and sadly devalued word nowadays. Saying that I haven't actually heard them described as heroes.

PM called them heroes at the Downing street meet and greet.

Well, we all know how much value to place on his statements...

[VladD]

fulham911club said:

VladD said:

Either do it properly or not at all is what my point is.

Isn't that a bit of a binary view of life? I'm afraid its not that simple....

Exactly my point. It's not that simple, but it should be.

[Davi]

VladD said:

fulham911club said:

VladD said:

Either do it properly or not at all is what my point is.

Isn't that a bit of a binary view of life? I'm afraid its not that simple....

Exactly my point. It's not that simple, but it should be.

but as it isn't, why bh about the celebrities that are trying to change things?

[VladD]

ewenm said:

VladD said:

ewenm said:

As for the moniker of "Heroes" - this I disagree with but, as we all know, it's a heavily overused and sadly devalued word nowadays. Saying that I haven't actually heard them described as heroes.

PM called them heroes at the Downing street meet and greet.

Well, we all know how much value to place on his statements...

Ah, but if he says it, then the BBC will say it, then papers will pick up on it, etc, etc.

[fulham911club]

VladD said:

ewenm said:

VladD said:

ewenm said:

As for the moniker of "Heroes" - this I disagree with but, as we all know, it's a heavily overused and sadly devalued word nowadays. Saying that I haven't actually heard them described as heroes.

PM called them heroes at the Downing street meet and greet.

Well, we all know how much value to place on his statements...

Ah, but if he says it, then the BBC will say it, then papers will pick up on it, etc, etc.

They raised a lot of money for charity. How much have you raaised this year? Hmmm?

[VladD]

Davi said:

VladD said:

fulham911club said:

VladD said:

Either do it properly or not at all is what my point is.

Isn't that a bit of a binary view of life? I'm afraid its not that simple....

Exactly my point. It's not that simple, but it should be.

but as it isn't, why bh about the celebrities that are trying to change things?

I haven't bhed about the celebrities. All I'm saying is that it could be done better.

[fulham911club]

VladD said:

Davi said:

VladD said:

fulham911club said:

VladD said:

Either do it properly or not at all is what my point is.

Isn't that a bit of a binary view of life? I'm afraid its not that simple....

Exactly my point. It's not that simple, but it should be.

but as it isn't, why bh about the celebrities that are trying to change things?

I haven't bhed about the celebrities. All I'm saying is that it could be done better.

How then? Your only suggestion so far is that a bunch of billionaires give £10mm each.

[VladD]

fulham911club said:

VladD said:

ewenm said:

VladD said:

ewenm said:

As for the moniker of "Heroes" - this I disagree with but, as we all know, it's a heavily overused and sadly devalued word nowadays. Saying that I haven't actually heard them described as heroes.

PM called them heroes at the Downing street meet and greet.

Well, we all know how much value to place on his statements...

Ah, but if he says it, then the BBC will say it, then papers will pick up on it, etc, etc.

They raised a lot of money for charity. How much have you raaised this year? Hmmm?

What's that got do with the use of the term "Heroes"?

[anonymous-user]

VladD said:

Davi said:

VladD said:

fulham911club said:

VladD said:

Either do it properly or not at all is what my point is.

Isn't that a bit of a binary view of life? I'm afraid its not that simple....

Exactly my point. It's not that simple, but it should be.

but as it isn't, why bh about the celebrities that are trying to change things?

I haven't bhed about the celebrities. All I'm saying is that it could be done better.

crack on then Mr IT Bloke, tell us how to organise a charity expedition event....

[VladD]

fulham911club said:

VladD said:

Davi said:

VladD said:

fulham911club said:

VladD said:

Either do it properly or not at all is what my point is.

Isn't that a bit of a binary view of life? I'm afraid its not that simple....

Exactly my point. It's not that simple, but it should be.

but as it isn't, why bh about the celebrities that are trying to change things?

I haven't bhed about the celebrities. All I'm saying is that it could be done better.

How then? Your only suggestion so far is that a bunch of billionaires give £10mm each.

And you think £1.5M for climbing a mountain will help more Africans than £500M from billionaires who give it without climbing one?

[Prometheus]

I watched it and it reinforced one thing I've known, having done a little trekking myself, and that is that mountains are great levellers. The mountain doesn't care wether you're famous, on it you are just another climber.

And yes, it may have been good editing but there seemed to be a genuine cameraderie and feeling between the climbers and the porters. And yes, the porters made it look easy but that is what they do, they're conditioned to it in a way 6 months training couldn't get close to.

[VladD]

pablo said:

VladD said:

Davi said:

VladD said:

fulham911club said:

VladD said:

Either do it properly or not at all is what my point is.

Isn't that a bit of a binary view of life? I'm afraid its not that simple....

Exactly my point. It's not that simple, but it should be.

but as it isn't, why bh about the celebrities that are trying to change things?

I haven't bhed about the celebrities. All I'm saying is that it could be done better.

crack on then Mr IT Bloke, tell us how to organise a charity expedition event....

You've missed the point worse than John Terry misses a penalty.

[172ff]

Brilliant idea with a brilliant result.

Good for them I say.

Some horribly bitter and twisted people on PH.

[AlpineWhite]

ipitythefool said:

AlpineWhite said:

Jem0911 said:

Was more than happy to contribute when they were climbing.

Climbing is hardly the word. Walking is more apt.




Moyles' comment of "a week in hell" irritates me hugely, too.

Have you done it?

Kili? No. I stay in Europe.

My kind of mountain is one where you need your hands for more than holding the trekking poles.

Cheers.

[Davi]

VladD said:

Davi said:

VladD said:

fulham911club said:

VladD said:

Either do it properly or not at all is what my point is.

Isn't that a bit of a binary view of life? I'm afraid its not that simple....

Exactly my point. It's not that simple, but it should be.

but as it isn't, why bh about the celebrities that are trying to change things?

I haven't bhed about the celebrities. All I'm saying is that it could be done better.

OK, IMO "£1.5 million from 9 celebrities. If they'd just given £200K each the charities would be better off. It's not like they can't afford it. It's a bit like the "Live Earth" gig. The "celebrities" are more concerned with promoting their image than the actual cause. The climb was a waste of time and effort." is bhing, especially when posted on a thread aimed at bhing about celebs. If it wasn't intended in that way I retract my comment.

Still doesn't alter the fact that for the task set, they achieved the goals well - and who knows, it may have even humbled them a tad. Probably not but we can live in hope

[Chr1sch]

Yup i think well done to them all, raised over 1.5million and i could never slate that acheivement.

I also like listening to Chris Moyles in the mornings so hey ho

[fulham911club]

VladD said:

fulham911club said:

VladD said:

Davi said:

VladD said:

fulham911club said:

VladD said:

Either do it properly or not at all is what my point is.

Isn't that a bit of a binary view of life? I'm afraid its not that simple....

Exactly my point. It's not that simple, but it should be.

but as it isn't, why bh about the celebrities that are trying to change things?

I haven't bhed about the celebrities. All I'm saying is that it could be done better.

How then? Your only suggestion so far is that a bunch of billionaires give £10mm each.

And you think £1.5M for climbing a mountain will help more Africans than £500M from billionaires who give it without climbing one?

So these 50 billionaires are just going to hand over the cash are they? Perhaps you should give them all a call.

[anonymous-user]

VladD said:

pablo said:

VladD said:

Davi said:

VladD said:

fulham911club said:

VladD said:

Either do it properly or not at all is what my point is.

Isn't that a bit of a binary view of life? I'm afraid its not that simple....

Exactly my point. It's not that simple, but it should be.

but as it isn't, why bh about the celebrities that are trying to change things?

I haven't bhed about the celebrities. All I'm saying is that it could be done better.

crack on then Mr IT Bloke, tell us how to organise a charity expedition event....

You've missed the point worse than John Terry misses a penalty.

actually i dont think i have.

you say that it wasnt "done properly" (whatever that means) but only offer a single solution which in practical terms will never work for the reasons i stated earlier that you failed to notice. anyone who is in posession of a yacht worht millions is most likely lacking the moral fibre to give a hoot about a kid in africa dying of malaria. billionaires have priorites that usually involve cars, yachts, hookers, cocaine and champagne, humanitarian issues dont rate that highly in the bars of monaco i'm afraid...

celebs raise profile, we donate. thats the generally accepted way a charity works.

[Davi]

VladD said:

And you think £1.5M for climbing a mountain will help more Africans than £500M from billionaires who give it without climbing one?

It will help substantially more than not having £1.5m