CV19 - Cure Worse Than The Disease? (Vol 19)

[Carl_Manchester]

deeps said:

Just wondered what this thread thinks of Dr John Campbell?

As another Covid Jab roll-out possibly approaches, the data reveal some clear facts - ongoing excess deaths (non covid) are running around 10% high in wealthy countries that had a high uptake of Covid 'vaccination'. In less wealthy countries that did not 'vaccinate' heavily, excess deaths are normal or below average.

Interested to hear opinions. Here's the short video with data...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naopp_KF678

I feel the same way as many YouTube doctors of science that get posted in here. I don't think the argument he is presenting is convincing as the data points can be interpreted in a number of different ways to pick your narrative.

In terms of masks, I have seen people in Spain wear masks in public, in the outdoors, all the way through the summer and one of my next door neighbours wears one in public.

[Ari]

This is what the nutters are doing to their children!

https://twitter.com/LongCovidKids/status/170020735...

Check out the replies too.

Jesus Christ.

Still, 'no biggie', eh?

[vixen1700]

One decent comment:


Sep 9
“I feel like I’m going to pass out” …..”the only one in the school wearing a #mask”……put 2 and 2 together…

[johnboy1975]

vixen1700 said:

One decent comment:


Sep 9
“I feel like I’m going to pass out” …..”the only one in the school wearing a #mask”……put 2 and 2 together…

With this reply:

"⁶It’s impossible for these people. The behaviour scientists have done a real number on them"

[J210]

"Infection expert calls for return of free Covid tests"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-66767409


Here we go again

[johnboy1975]

J210 said:

"Infection expert calls for return of free Covid tests"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-66767409


Here we go again

BBC Article said:

The fact that we've got this rise now tells us something is going on that hasn't happened before," he said

Haven't we had this rise with covid every year since it's launch? And pre 2020, didn't we get this rise with other respiratory viruses? Schools go back, weather takes a turn for the worse - not happened yet due to Global Boiling

Maybe Mariana Spring should fact check him?

Edited by johnboy1975 on Sunday 10th September 18:09

[r3g]

J210 said:

"Infection expert calls for return of free Covid tests"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-66767409


Here we go again

James6112 said:

It’s all a distant memory now.
Onwards & upwards.

[Elysium]

The pattern repeats. Each time the public health experts identify a variant worth investigation the COVID zealots big up the risks. They see these events as opportunities to have another go at controlling society through their mad restrictions. Sadly they will never stop.

Then the media pick up on it and have another go at scaring us because it drives advertising revenue.

Meanwhile, the people who actually know what they are doing already see evidence of no increased severity:

https://x.com/kallmemeg/status/1700095607833010292...

If it’s milder than Omicron it doesn’t matter. Ignore it.

[Ari]

Elysium said:

The pattern repeats. Each time the public health experts identify a variant worth investigation the COVID zealots big up the risks. They see these events as opportunities to have another go at controlling society through their mad restrictions. Sadly they will never stop.

Then the media pick up on it and have another go at scaring us because it drives advertising revenue.

Meanwhile, the people who actually know what they are doing already see evidence of no increased severity:

https://x.com/kallmemeg/status/1700095607833010292...

If it’s milder than Omicron it doesn’t matter. Ignore it.

Agree 100%. The media had a brief hiatus of feeling relevant once more with their reporting of Covid in ever more lurid and exciting terms for a year or two. They're desperate to get that back again.

[g3org3y]

The Government Censored Me and Other Scientists. We Fought Back—and Won. Jay Bhattacharya

[johnboy1975]

g3org3y said:

The Government Censored Me and Other Scientists. We Fought Back—and Won. Jay Bhattacharya

(Although it kinda misses the point that the restrictions on Social Media held for as long as were deemed necessary - and Musk possibly did the most in that regard?)

I (kinda) asked earlier about the US...what's their vaccination policy this autumn / winter? Mandates have gone (I think?) - are we going to see high uptake in blue states and low uptake in red states? Rather than the less political high uptake in at risks groups and the not at risk (from covid) either not recommended to take it, or recommended not to take it.

Have the JCVI stats that show it takes x million jabs in the under 50's to prevent a single hospitalisation made it over to Fauci land?

[r3g]

johnboy1975 said:

The latest death juice clot shots safe and effective vaccines are not ready yet. When they are, get ready for wall to wall "news" coverage about a new highly infectious deadly variant, perfectly rounded off with the strong recommendation you go and get vaccinated, as per the contracts they signed with Pfizer who pay large sums to sponsor them and promote their products on their channels.

The few remaining people in the world who possess more than two brain cells can see right through this obvious swindle being attempted on the plebs, but most are so dumbed down now that they will go line up for another shot to protect them from the latest deadly bogeyman that the media has convinced them is floating in the air all around them,ready to pounce.

[Elysium]

g3org3y said:

The Government Censored Me and Other Scientists. We Fought Back—and Won. Jay Bhattacharya

I know how difficult it was to keep my head about COVID whilst almost everyone else went mad.

It’s almost unimaginable that people like Bhattacharya, Kulldorf, Gupta and Ioannidis found themselves in the same situation, standing isolated against a world gone insane, when they where unquestionably experts in the matter.

I felt a massive weight of responsibility to stand up against the tyrannical behaviour of our Govt. I find it hard to comprehend how this must have felt for them.

Heroes all of them,

[Timothy Bucktu]

Carl_Manchester said:

deeps said:

Just wondered what this thread thinks of Dr John Campbell?

As another Covid Jab roll-out possibly approaches, the data reveal some clear facts - ongoing excess deaths (non covid) are running around 10% high in wealthy countries that had a high uptake of Covid 'vaccination'. In less wealthy countries that did not 'vaccinate' heavily, excess deaths are normal or below average.

Interested to hear opinions. Here's the short video with data...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naopp_KF678

I feel the same way as many YouTube doctors of science that get posted in here. I don't think the argument he is presenting is convincing as the data points can be interpreted in a number of different ways to pick your narrative.

In terms of masks, I have seen people in Spain wear masks in public, in the outdoors, all the way through the summer and one of my next door neighbours wears one in public.

It's definitely down to interpretation. There was another YouTuber who presented a few videos giving the other side of the argument to John's...I can't remember who it was, but both arguments were convincing on their own, but cancelled each other out when you heard both sides.
It's the same with Climate Change. On one hand you have videos showing how its definitely all fine, and on the other we're definitely going to have to change our ways for the sake of future generations.

It's very difficult to know what to think. Personally, if the government tells you to do something...its probably best to do the complete opposite.

[RemarkLima]

g3org3y said:

The Government Censored Me and Other Scientists. We Fought Back—and Won. Jay Bhattacharya

Amazing result and good news.

A similar change of rhetoric

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/tennis/2023/09/12/nova...

Djokovic is being applauded for his fortitude... Who would have thought after being so vilified.

[r3g]

CDC Rolls Out 'Wild To Mild' Flu Shot Campaign To Reach Vaccine-Hesitant
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/cdc-rolls-out-...

Article said:

The CDC launched a new digital campaign to encourage the vaccine-hesitant to get a flu shot to merely “tame” symptoms.

The number of Americans willing to roll up their sleeves to get a flu shot declined during the pandemic, as many who received the vaccine appeared to get sick anyway, and concerns grew over potential side effects.

In response to dwindling numbers, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) on Monday launched a new digital ad campaign it hopes will encourage the vaccine-hesitant to get the shot, even if breakthrough infections occur.

The agency’s new messaging is simple: The flu shot won’t prevent a person from getting sick but can "tame" wild flu symptoms into mild flu symptoms in those who get vaccinated but still get sick.

LOL.

Yeah I'll give it a miss, ta, and just continue trusting the immune system I was born with which works absolutely fine when you feed your body all the essential nutrients, vitamins and minerals it needs.

[paulguitar]

r3g said:

LOL.

Yeah I'll give it a miss, ta, and just continue trusting the immune system I was born with which works absolutely fine when you feed your body all the essential nutrients, vitamins and minerals it needs.

Have you had any vaccines at all, such as chickenpox, tetanus, polio, and MMR?

[Welcome.]

paulguitar said:

r3g said:

LOL.

Yeah I'll give it a miss, ta, and just continue trusting the immune system I was born with which works absolutely fine when you feed your body all the essential nutrients, vitamins and minerals it needs.

Have you had any vaccines at all, such as chickenpox, tetanus, polio, and MMR?

More the point, that's aimed at the USA and not the UK.

But LOL.

[Roderick Spode]

paulguitar said:

r3g said:

LOL.

Yeah I'll give it a miss, ta, and just continue trusting the immune system I was born with which works absolutely fine when you feed your body all the essential nutrients, vitamins and minerals it needs.

Have you had any vaccines at all, such as chickenpox, tetanus, polio, and MMR?

Go back to previous volumes - this has been done to death.

"Oh yeah, you're an anti-vaxxer, but I bet you've had (insert evidentially effective historic vaccines here)."

I'll stay away from the rapidly sequenced experimental serum that has a staggering list of side effects but still doesn't stop you contracting what it's supposed to protect you against, thanks.

[paulguitar]

Roderick Spode said:

paulguitar said:

r3g said:

LOL.

Yeah I'll give it a miss, ta, and just continue trusting the immune system I was born with which works absolutely fine when you feed your body all the essential nutrients, vitamins and minerals it needs.

Have you had any vaccines at all, such as chickenpox, tetanus, polio, and MMR?

Go back to previous volumes - this has been done to death.

"Oh yeah, you're an anti-vaxxer, but I bet you've had (insert evidentially effective historic vaccines here)."

I'll stay away from the rapidly sequenced experimental serum that has a staggering list of side effects but still doesn't stop you contracting what it's supposed to protect you against, thanks.

It was a simple question, which I wasn't asking you.