Liz Truss Ex-Prime Minister

[LastPoster]

The Hypno-Toad said:

You’d like to hope that this is the last we will see of this delusional, narcissistic, rude, self centred person but I would imagine every time a broadcaster wants a voice to complain about the new government in the most insane and batst manner possible, she’ll be the one they will turn to.

Edited by The Hypno-Toad on Saturday 6th July 12:30

She will have to form an orderly queue behind Nicola Sturgeon for those gigs

[oddman]

The Hypno-Toad said:

You’d like to hope that this is the last we will see of this delusional, narcissistic, rude, self centred person but I would imagine every time a broadcaster wants a voice to complain about the new government in the most insane and batst manner possible, she’ll be the one they will turn to.

As far as getting back into parliament is concerned, I don’t think there is a Conservative association in the country who would touch her with a 10 foot badge pole
I would imagine that even Reform would want nothing to do with her.

However, you do look at her with her mannerisms and behaviour and wonder if there is something else going on? Sometimes (in fact I’d probably say most of the time.), she almost appears like a glitching android, like she can’t function on what she is being told.

I think she now appears to be very odd individual indeed and certainly has no place in politics for any party. I wonder if her time in office has actually left her needing help?

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TwigtheWonderkid said:

I actually think Liz Truss is an unwell woman. That's not a flippant remark, her level of self delusion and hubris isn't normal.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if she has a total breakdown soon, and in a few months is found at 3am, naked or in her nightie, with her fist clenched, screaming abuse at a street lamp.

Retired shrink here so picked up on these comments which I agree with.

I wonder about an autistic spectrum disorder. Women are generally better at 'passing' socially than men and it could account for the oddness in her mannerisms and lack of empathy.

Narcissistic PD is another possibilty and would better explain the affairs and the shifting political principles which appear to have served to keep her in the spotlight. From the embarrasing student antimonarchism, through the cheese and pork market stuff right up to this week. Also would account for lack of empathy

Rory Stewarts descriptions of her as a boss are quite enlightening seemed to want flashy policy anouncements rather than anything of substance.

She appears to be able to maintain that brittle, odd ,but supremely confident public persona and it's hard to see how she can maintain her sanity when her internal world is so at odds with the one the rest of us perceive

Edited by oddman on Saturday 6th July 13:43

[Blackpuddin]

eharding said:

bhstewie said:

Beans next to Toast.

Has beans vs. Has been

[Skeptisk]

It baffles me completely that someone so obviously ill qualified to be even an MP (or normally functioning adult) could somehow rise to be PM. How was it possible? Are we really saying that she was the best the Tories had to offer at the time? A real head scratcher but that seems to be politics today with the contestants for US President being à narcissistic, bullying low IQ, ageing grifter against an octogenarian in mental decline. What an age we live in!

[bitchstewie]

Skeptisk said:

It baffles me completely that someone so obviously ill qualified to be even an MP (or normally functioning adult) could somehow rise to be PM. How was it possible? Are we really saying that she was the best the Tories had to offer at the time? A real head scratcher but that seems to be politics today with the contestants for US President being à narcissistic, bullying low IQ, ageing grifter against an octogenarian in mental decline. What an age we live in!

Because they asked the members and the membership are nuts.

[glazbagun]

bhstewie said:

Because they asked the members and the membership are nuts.

Also because, like Corbyn, she was chosen to offer the illusion of choice and make the Parliamentary Party's pick a rubber stamp job.

The party probably resented that.

[TwigtheWonderkid]

bhstewie said:

Because they asked the members and the membership are nuts.

Racist, rather than nuts. I'm no fan of Sunak, but anyone with a choice between him and her objectively could never pick her. If he was white, he would have won that membership vote with a 95%+ share of the vote.

[hidetheelephants]

glazbagun said:

bhstewie said:

Because they asked the members and the membership are nuts.

Also because, like Corbyn, she was chosen to offer the illusion of choice and make the Parliamentary Party's pick a rubber stamp job.

The party probably resented that.

The membership wanted Mordaunt, so the MPs attempted to spite them by offering them Sunak and Truss, overlooking the power of idiots in crowds to choose spitefully in return.

[swisstoni]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

bhstewie said:

Because they asked the members and the membership are nuts.

Racist, rather than nuts. I'm no fan of Sunak, but anyone with a choice between him and her objectively could never pick her. If he was white, he would have won that membership vote with a 95%+ share of the vote.

Nonsense.
They may have had a lot of failings but not appointing people due to race wasn’t one of them

Oddly new Labour cabinet looks decidedly lacking when looking through your distorted prism.

[JagLover]

swisstoni said:

Nonsense.
They may have had a lot of failings but not appointing people due to race wasn’t one of them

Oddly new Labour cabinet looks decidedly lacking when looking through your distorted prism.

Truss told them what they wanted to hear and Sunak stuck with Fiscal reality.

[Pitre]

hidetheelephants said:

glazbagun said:

bhstewie said:

Because they asked the members and the membership are nuts.

Also because, like Corbyn, she was chosen to offer the illusion of choice and make the Parliamentary Party's pick a rubber stamp job.

The party probably resented that.

The membership wanted Mordaunt, so the MPs attempted to spite them by offering them Sunak and Truss, overlooking the power of idiots in crowds to choose spitefully in return.

True.

[Pitre]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

bhstewie said:

Because they asked the members and the membership are nuts.

Racist, rather than nuts. I'm no fan of Sunak, but anyone with a choice between him and her objectively could never pick her. If he was white, he would have won that membership vote with a 95%+ share of the vote.

True.

[the tribester]

I'm actually pleased Truss lost her seat, hopefully someone will explain slowly to her why.

It's still a bit galling that she is still entitled to claim the £115k PA Public Duties Costs Allowance for her 40 odd days served as PM.

[bitchstewie]

Two ways of looking at it.

Galling is one.

Or it's excellent value for helping ensure that she and her colleagues are kept out of public office for what is looking like a very very long time.

[eharding]

The Hypno-Toad said:

You’d like to hope that this is the last we will see of this delusional, narcissistic, rude, self centred person but I would imagine every time a broadcaster wants a voice to complain about the new government in the most insane and batst manner possible, she’ll be the one they will turn to.

I'm not so sure - Farage manages to keep his high media profile due to his extreme marmite nature - some people clearly love him to bits and lap up every last grifting syllable, whereas others watch, listen or read what he as to say just so they can hate, despise and loath him even more - either way the media get their clicks and views, so they're happy.

Truss on the other hand comes across like Freddy Kruger dragging his claws down a chalkboard. Freddy might at the same time actually be mellifluously delivering the opening of Under Milk Wood flawlessly in the style of Richard Burton, but it doesn't matter - people just want the awful, dreadful noise to stop.

Truss isn't Marmite, she's Dogshyte, and nobody wants that.

[S600BSB]

Pitre said:

TwigtheWonderkid said:

bhstewie said:

Because they asked the members and the membership are nuts.

Racist, rather than nuts. I'm no fan of Sunak, but anyone with a choice between him and her objectively could never pick her. If he was white, he would have won that membership vote with a 95%+ share of the vote.

True.

Agree

[AstonZagato]

Pitre said:

TwigtheWonderkid said:

bhstewie said:

Because they asked the members and the membership are nuts.

Racist, rather than nuts. I'm no fan of Sunak, but anyone with a choice between him and her objectively could never pick her. If he was white, he would have won that membership vote with a 95%+ share of the vote.

True.

Nonsense. They might have made a mad choice but it more down to Rishi being deemed to be the person that knifed their (the membership's) beloved BoJo than any racism. Compounded, as stated above, by the parliamentary party, conspiring to force out anyone else for whom they may have wanted to vote. Finally, Truss was seen by the membership as potentially running a Thatcherite growth / right wing agenda.

Therefore, spite, anger and madness all were more important than racism, IMHO.

[bitchstewie]

AstonZagato said:

Nonsense. They might have made a mad choice but it more down to Rishi being deemed to be the person that knifed their (the membership's) beloved BoJo than any racism. Compounded, as stated above, by the parliamentary party, conspiring to force out anyone else for whom they may have wanted to vote. Finally, Truss was seen by the membership as potentially running a Thatcherite growth / right wing agenda.

Therefore, spite, anger and madness all were more important than racism, IMHO.

That's closer to where I'd be on it than thinking it's Sunak's ethnicity.

Don't get me wrong I'm sure there's a small number for whom it did play a part but I think it was overwhelmingly what you said.

Sad thing is I have a feeling the nutters would have Truss or Johnson back tomorrow given the chance.

[AstonZagato]

bhstewie said:

That's closer to where I'd be on it than thinking it's Sunak's ethnicity.

Don't get me wrong I'm sure there's a small number for whom it did play a part but I think it was overwhelmingly what you said.

Sad thing is I have a feeling the nutters would have Truss or Johnson back tomorrow given the chance.

BoJo would walk it if his name ever got to the membership - which tells you all you need to know about how mad they are. That is despite all the evidence - to use a Tacitus quote "omnium consensu capax imperii nisi imperasset" ("all would have agreed that he was worthy of the highest office, if he had never held it").

The Tory membership are mad - which is why the MPs probably need to chose someone (which they won't - they'll fight like rats in a sack).

Edited by AstonZagato on Saturday 6th July 16:48

[shtu]

bhstewie said:

AstonZagato said:

Nonsense. They might have made a mad choice but it more down to Rishi being deemed to be the person that knifed their (the membership's) beloved BoJo than any racism. Compounded, as stated above, by the parliamentary party, conspiring to force out anyone else for whom they may have wanted to vote. Finally, Truss was seen by the membership as potentially running a Thatcherite growth / right wing agenda.

Therefore, spite, anger and madness all were more important than racism, IMHO.

That's closer to where I'd be on it than thinking it's Sunak's ethnicity.

Don't get me wrong I'm sure there's a small number for whom it did play a part but I think it was overwhelmingly what you said.

Sad thing is I have a feeling the nutters would have Truss or Johnson back tomorrow given the chance.

Perhaps, but it's worth remembering they were given a choice of,

- Sombre man talking financial reailty.
- A Maggie Thatcher cosplay telling them what they wanted to hear.